Superb
Being the hold up decoy is something all strikers in the modern game, with the emergence of the lone striker role, should have in their locker. The days of the out and out, fox in the box striker are fading away especially at the big clubs - which is my beef with the idea of Costa being a long standing no.1 striker for us.
You look at Costa and think to yourself (at least I do) he's not quite strong enough to bully himself into scoring though he does try. He's not quite quick enough to pass a defender by who hasn't given him that critical extra yard. He doesn't have the ability the score goals outside the box (watching through his entire goal library with Athletico I found 1 in his 60+ was outside the box and that was only due to the keeper committing himself horribly). And he doesn't have the technical acumen to score goals in tight situations - e.g. curling the ball around a defender. "Flapcao" has 3 out those 4 qualities, hence why he's an example of a better striker to me.
On reflection based on the players skills and execution, I think 32mil was just about perfect value (50mil is ludicrous). What a said was there's a very good reason we were the only club who were willing to pay that price, which several figures within the football world have confirmed. It's because of said paragraph above, if he'd had the same goals to games ratio he's had the last 2 years since he was a teenager then it wouldn't of mattered - as you say being a proven goal scorer trumps all technical deficiency. Watching Lampard for 10 years we know that better than anyone.
I do enjoy the fact he's proving to be a good point of debate since his last few stinkers. Much more compelling than the tired Torres debate as least.
Just read the rest of the comments. People should be ashamed in themselves.
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. It's not as if he's reading these comments. Relax
2nd in the scoring charts
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Charlie Austin is 3rd. Must be a great player
Looks it megaloathe; getting a lot of plaudits recently. Or because he's not Brazilian or only plays for qpr is he a bad player?
Costa is so quick and strong too. Don't get people who say he's not quick.
We'll see how good he is once Liverpool buy him for 25mil in January. Which we all know is gunna happen
Its quite sad that Costa can't score outside the box
Either can Oscar hazard or willian regularly, is that sad?
I can only assume you are not a Chelsea fan.
Costa has been more prolific than any striker I've seen in my watching Chelsea days. I don't care how he gets them.
I remember people saying after his first season that Drogba was no Hasselbaink .....and we are only approaching the half way stage this season.
Thing is biggish I agree with the op....Costa is not drogba... but then the negativity spouted out on this article is either a lame wum attempt or shows the stupidity of some fans.
Costa isn't Drogba just as Drogba isn't Costa.
t
Both have different attributes. For all of Drogba's strengths he was never prolific in a Chelsea shirt apart from the 2007 and 2010 Double winning season.
Costa has just started his Chelsea career but he already has 12 goals in 13 appearances.
At Atletico Costa proved he was a big game player in games against Real Madrid and Barca. Also against ourselves in the CL semis when Atletico whipped us.
Had Costa been fit for the CL Final then I suspect that Atletico might have won that as well.
I'm delighted they didn't because I seriously doubt that we'd have been able to sign Costa last summer if Atletico were current European Champions as well as La Liga winners.
Thank u superb a bit of sense
"its quite sad Costa can't score from outside the box"
Silence you fckn re tard
but then the negativity spouted out on this article is either a lame wum attempt or shows the stupidity of some fans.
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The thing is if you read these comments closely no-one I believe is saying Costa is a bad player. Unlike Drogba for example who a significant number in those first two years thought was just an everyday target man. An Ivorian Andy Carroll.
What Costa lacks to me is excelling in something in particular. As I've said before, he's not slow by any means but calling him quick is a disservice to the strikers who rely on it (e.g. Remy would beat him in a sprint no problem).
He's not got the upper body strength to compete physically with the imposing CBs though he does throw his weight around, there's a gigantic difference between those two statements. Most of us could run straight at Drogba and end up bouncing off him - a fair few of us would get Costa on the deck. Without that relentless tenaciousness of his he isn't an imposing individual.
His completely inability to score outside the box, for a striker in the modern game, is a huge issue. I'd like to see him do it once Makelele style just to prove he has it in him, coz right now it strikes me as an attribute he simply doesn't possess. And while not completely technically inept (that bicycle kick for Atletico is there to disprove any suggestion he is), doesn't have nearly the acumen in that respect to compete with his peers. Yet again going back to our own 2nd and 3rd choice, both are better technical footballers.
Just thought I'd make that clear. Not a bad player, just a very overrated one
Just Had To Mention That - Makes some good points
I think Costa will be great for us though with the style of play we are trying to implement.
comment by Just Had To Mention That - I Megaloathe You Al... (U6522)
posted 7 hours, 55 minutes ago
but then the negativity spouted out on this article is either a lame wum attempt or shows the stupidity of some fans.
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The thing is if you read these comments closely no-one I believe is saying Costa is a bad player. Unlike Drogba for example who a significant number in those first two years thought was just an everyday target man. An Ivorian Andy Carroll.
What Costa lacks to me is excelling in something in particular. As I've said before, he's not slow by any means but calling him quick is a disservice to the strikers who rely on it (e.g. Remy would beat him in a sprint no problem).
He's not got the upper body strength to compete physically with the imposing CBs though he does throw his weight around, there's a gigantic difference between those two statements. Most of us could run straight at Drogba and end up bouncing off him - a fair few of us would get Costa on the deck. Without that relentless tenaciousness of his he isn't an imposing individual.
His completely inability to score outside the box, for a striker in the modern game, is a huge issue. I'd like to see him do it once Makelele style just to prove he has it in him, coz right now it strikes me as an attribute he simply doesn't possess. And while not completely technically inept (that bicycle kick for Atletico is there to disprove any suggestion he is), doesn't have nearly the acumen in that respect to compete with his peers. Yet again going back to our own 2nd and 3rd choice, both are better technical footballers.
Just thought I'd make that clear. Not a bad player, just a very overrated one
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I think he excels in his movement, timing of runs and reading the game.....but otherwise I agree with your points.
I think he excels in his movement, timing of runs and reading the game
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Agreed. Nothing wrong with his football brain.
The thing is if you read these comments closely no-one I believe is saying Costa is a bad player. Unlike Drogba for example who a significant number in those first two years thought was just an everyday target man. An Ivorian Andy Carroll.-
1.)alot of people are hinting that he is a poor player and overated.
What Costa lacks to me is excelling in something in particular. As I've said before, he's not slow by any means but calling him quick is a disservice to the strikers who rely on it (e.g. Remy would beat him in a sprint no problem).
2.)he is quick and shows it on a weekly basis, even though our game is to not play people in behind a defence so we will never get to see it. Apparently willian is quick but ive never seen it. Other than tracking back.
He's not got the upper body strength to compete physically with the imposing CBs though he does throw his weight around, there's a gigantic difference between those two statements. Most of us could run straight at Drogba and end up bouncing off him - a fair few of us would get Costa on the deck. Without that relentless tenaciousness of his he isn't an imposing individual.
3.)Absolute nonsense, do you not remember drogbas antics? hes even doing them now, flopping to the floor while miscontrolling the ball. Costa yesterday battled against two stoke defenders and left them on the floor and still won the ball on several occasions. this one made me laugh the most
His completely inability to score outside the box, for a striker in the modern game, is a huge issue. I'd like to see him do it once Makelele style just to prove he has it in him, coz right now it strikes me as an attribute he simply doesn't possess. And while not completely technically inept (that bicycle kick for Atletico is there to disprove any suggestion he is), doesn't have nearly the acumen in that respect to compete with his peers. Yet again going back to our own 2nd and 3rd choice, both are better technical footballers.
4.)if you think drogba is good technically then I worry about you, he is a two touch player max. Yes I would like costa to score outside the box but how many goals do we score from outside the box? last year I doubt it was more than 10-15? It seems thats the way we play now.
We havnt had a jimmy floyd for several years now matey.
Just thought I'd make that clear. Not a bad player, just a very overrated one
5.) one of the top 5 strikers based on last year for me. Not overated at all, and had he been fit in the cl final would of most likely won it.
I don't know where we go from here on Costa. You're overly protective and I'm overly cynical. I'll concede the strength argument because he does an impeccable job of looking stronger than he actually is. But everything else I can't give you ground with, we appear to be watching two different players.
I dont know, As a striker myself I know the tough job of a lone striker, especially when we sit back in scenarios and sometimes our am's are not the qucikest at getting up to support. His goal scoring record is the best for a chelsea player since I been watching them and im not overly protective imo, just speak what I see. I havnt missed a game this year and have been to every home game too.
The guy is different class for me, you cannot deny he was in the top 5 strikers last year either no matter how he got goals.
One of the best strikers to every play in the PL? RVNistlerooy, did utd fans complain about him scoring outside the box? No.
Do we as a team score outside the box?very rarely if not from a FK.
Has costa blasted past defenders this year with pace? several times.
Held up play on his own against 2,3,4 Defenders? alot.
Dont get how we can question the guy tbh.
Costa scored a good goal, credit to him
Costa may not be Drogba,but Chelsea are far better with Diego on form.
See how strong he was yesterday? Effortless what link up play, what pace, what touches. Costs
Nickalopodis, you do watch a lot more of us than myself so I'm perfectly inclined to believe you to a degree (I do think you are a bit protective, could be wrong).
I have yet to see Costa dominate a defender 'effortlessly', he needs to bully defenders to gain the advantage. Also yet to see him skin a defender for pace.
I promise as soon as I see this on a frequent basis from him I'll concede my argument on this. You may not believe me but I'm far more generous towards Costa than I was before he arrived, I didn't realise his football head was as good as it is
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posted on 21/12/14
Superb
Being the hold up decoy is something all strikers in the modern game, with the emergence of the lone striker role, should have in their locker. The days of the out and out, fox in the box striker are fading away especially at the big clubs - which is my beef with the idea of Costa being a long standing no.1 striker for us.
You look at Costa and think to yourself (at least I do) he's not quite strong enough to bully himself into scoring though he does try. He's not quite quick enough to pass a defender by who hasn't given him that critical extra yard. He doesn't have the ability the score goals outside the box (watching through his entire goal library with Athletico I found 1 in his 60+ was outside the box and that was only due to the keeper committing himself horribly). And he doesn't have the technical acumen to score goals in tight situations - e.g. curling the ball around a defender. "Flapcao" has 3 out those 4 qualities, hence why he's an example of a better striker to me.
On reflection based on the players skills and execution, I think 32mil was just about perfect value (50mil is ludicrous). What a said was there's a very good reason we were the only club who were willing to pay that price, which several figures within the football world have confirmed. It's because of said paragraph above, if he'd had the same goals to games ratio he's had the last 2 years since he was a teenager then it wouldn't of mattered - as you say being a proven goal scorer trumps all technical deficiency. Watching Lampard for 10 years we know that better than anyone.
I do enjoy the fact he's proving to be a good point of debate since his last few stinkers. Much more compelling than the tired Torres debate as least.
posted on 21/12/14
Just read the rest of the comments. People should be ashamed in themselves.
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. It's not as if he's reading these comments. Relax
posted on 21/12/14
2nd in the scoring charts
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Charlie Austin is 3rd. Must be a great player
posted on 21/12/14
Looks it megaloathe; getting a lot of plaudits recently. Or because he's not Brazilian or only plays for qpr is he a bad player?
posted on 21/12/14
Costa is so quick and strong too. Don't get people who say he's not quick.
posted on 21/12/14
We'll see how good he is once Liverpool buy him for 25mil in January. Which we all know is gunna happen
posted on 21/12/14
Its quite sad that Costa can't score outside the box
posted on 22/12/14
Either can Oscar hazard or willian regularly, is that sad?
I can only assume you are not a Chelsea fan.
Costa has been more prolific than any striker I've seen in my watching Chelsea days. I don't care how he gets them.
posted on 22/12/14
I remember people saying after his first season that Drogba was no Hasselbaink .....and we are only approaching the half way stage this season.
posted on 22/12/14
Thing is biggish I agree with the op....Costa is not drogba... but then the negativity spouted out on this article is either a lame wum attempt or shows the stupidity of some fans.
posted on 22/12/14
Costa isn't Drogba just as Drogba isn't Costa.
t
Both have different attributes. For all of Drogba's strengths he was never prolific in a Chelsea shirt apart from the 2007 and 2010 Double winning season.
Costa has just started his Chelsea career but he already has 12 goals in 13 appearances.
At Atletico Costa proved he was a big game player in games against Real Madrid and Barca. Also against ourselves in the CL semis when Atletico whipped us.
Had Costa been fit for the CL Final then I suspect that Atletico might have won that as well.
I'm delighted they didn't because I seriously doubt that we'd have been able to sign Costa last summer if Atletico were current European Champions as well as La Liga winners.
posted on 22/12/14
Thank u superb a bit of sense
posted on 22/12/14
"its quite sad Costa can't score from outside the box"
Silence you fckn re tard
posted on 23/12/14
but then the negativity spouted out on this article is either a lame wum attempt or shows the stupidity of some fans.
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The thing is if you read these comments closely no-one I believe is saying Costa is a bad player. Unlike Drogba for example who a significant number in those first two years thought was just an everyday target man. An Ivorian Andy Carroll.
What Costa lacks to me is excelling in something in particular. As I've said before, he's not slow by any means but calling him quick is a disservice to the strikers who rely on it (e.g. Remy would beat him in a sprint no problem).
He's not got the upper body strength to compete physically with the imposing CBs though he does throw his weight around, there's a gigantic difference between those two statements. Most of us could run straight at Drogba and end up bouncing off him - a fair few of us would get Costa on the deck. Without that relentless tenaciousness of his he isn't an imposing individual.
His completely inability to score outside the box, for a striker in the modern game, is a huge issue. I'd like to see him do it once Makelele style just to prove he has it in him, coz right now it strikes me as an attribute he simply doesn't possess. And while not completely technically inept (that bicycle kick for Atletico is there to disprove any suggestion he is), doesn't have nearly the acumen in that respect to compete with his peers. Yet again going back to our own 2nd and 3rd choice, both are better technical footballers.
Just thought I'd make that clear. Not a bad player, just a very overrated one
posted on 23/12/14
Just Had To Mention That - Makes some good points
I think Costa will be great for us though with the style of play we are trying to implement.
posted on 23/12/14
comment by Just Had To Mention That - I Megaloathe You Al... (U6522)
posted 7 hours, 55 minutes ago
but then the negativity spouted out on this article is either a lame wum attempt or shows the stupidity of some fans.
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The thing is if you read these comments closely no-one I believe is saying Costa is a bad player. Unlike Drogba for example who a significant number in those first two years thought was just an everyday target man. An Ivorian Andy Carroll.
What Costa lacks to me is excelling in something in particular. As I've said before, he's not slow by any means but calling him quick is a disservice to the strikers who rely on it (e.g. Remy would beat him in a sprint no problem).
He's not got the upper body strength to compete physically with the imposing CBs though he does throw his weight around, there's a gigantic difference between those two statements. Most of us could run straight at Drogba and end up bouncing off him - a fair few of us would get Costa on the deck. Without that relentless tenaciousness of his he isn't an imposing individual.
His completely inability to score outside the box, for a striker in the modern game, is a huge issue. I'd like to see him do it once Makelele style just to prove he has it in him, coz right now it strikes me as an attribute he simply doesn't possess. And while not completely technically inept (that bicycle kick for Atletico is there to disprove any suggestion he is), doesn't have nearly the acumen in that respect to compete with his peers. Yet again going back to our own 2nd and 3rd choice, both are better technical footballers.
Just thought I'd make that clear. Not a bad player, just a very overrated one
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I think he excels in his movement, timing of runs and reading the game.....but otherwise I agree with your points.
posted on 23/12/14
I think he excels in his movement, timing of runs and reading the game
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Agreed. Nothing wrong with his football brain.
posted on 23/12/14
The thing is if you read these comments closely no-one I believe is saying Costa is a bad player. Unlike Drogba for example who a significant number in those first two years thought was just an everyday target man. An Ivorian Andy Carroll.-
1.)alot of people are hinting that he is a poor player and overated.
What Costa lacks to me is excelling in something in particular. As I've said before, he's not slow by any means but calling him quick is a disservice to the strikers who rely on it (e.g. Remy would beat him in a sprint no problem).
2.)he is quick and shows it on a weekly basis, even though our game is to not play people in behind a defence so we will never get to see it. Apparently willian is quick but ive never seen it. Other than tracking back.
He's not got the upper body strength to compete physically with the imposing CBs though he does throw his weight around, there's a gigantic difference between those two statements. Most of us could run straight at Drogba and end up bouncing off him - a fair few of us would get Costa on the deck. Without that relentless tenaciousness of his he isn't an imposing individual.
3.)Absolute nonsense, do you not remember drogbas antics? hes even doing them now, flopping to the floor while miscontrolling the ball. Costa yesterday battled against two stoke defenders and left them on the floor and still won the ball on several occasions. this one made me laugh the most
His completely inability to score outside the box, for a striker in the modern game, is a huge issue. I'd like to see him do it once Makelele style just to prove he has it in him, coz right now it strikes me as an attribute he simply doesn't possess. And while not completely technically inept (that bicycle kick for Atletico is there to disprove any suggestion he is), doesn't have nearly the acumen in that respect to compete with his peers. Yet again going back to our own 2nd and 3rd choice, both are better technical footballers.
4.)if you think drogba is good technically then I worry about you, he is a two touch player max. Yes I would like costa to score outside the box but how many goals do we score from outside the box? last year I doubt it was more than 10-15? It seems thats the way we play now.
We havnt had a jimmy floyd for several years now matey.
Just thought I'd make that clear. Not a bad player, just a very overrated one
5.) one of the top 5 strikers based on last year for me. Not overated at all, and had he been fit in the cl final would of most likely won it.
posted on 23/12/14
I don't know where we go from here on Costa. You're overly protective and I'm overly cynical. I'll concede the strength argument because he does an impeccable job of looking stronger than he actually is. But everything else I can't give you ground with, we appear to be watching two different players.
posted on 23/12/14
I dont know, As a striker myself I know the tough job of a lone striker, especially when we sit back in scenarios and sometimes our am's are not the qucikest at getting up to support. His goal scoring record is the best for a chelsea player since I been watching them and im not overly protective imo, just speak what I see. I havnt missed a game this year and have been to every home game too.
The guy is different class for me, you cannot deny he was in the top 5 strikers last year either no matter how he got goals.
One of the best strikers to every play in the PL? RVNistlerooy, did utd fans complain about him scoring outside the box? No.
Do we as a team score outside the box?very rarely if not from a FK.
Has costa blasted past defenders this year with pace? several times.
Held up play on his own against 2,3,4 Defenders? alot.
Dont get how we can question the guy tbh.
posted on 27/12/14
Costa scored a good goal, credit to him
posted on 27/12/14
Costa may not be Drogba,but Chelsea are far better with Diego on form.
posted on 27/12/14
See how strong he was yesterday? Effortless what link up play, what pace, what touches. Costs
posted on 28/12/14
He could t do much today
posted on 29/12/14
Nickalopodis, you do watch a lot more of us than myself so I'm perfectly inclined to believe you to a degree (I do think you are a bit protective, could be wrong).
I have yet to see Costa dominate a defender 'effortlessly', he needs to bully defenders to gain the advantage. Also yet to see him skin a defender for pace.
I promise as soon as I see this on a frequent basis from him I'll concede my argument on this. You may not believe me but I'm far more generous towards Costa than I was before he arrived, I didn't realise his football head was as good as it is
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