comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 1 minute ago
Hazard takes the penalties for Chelsea.
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Hazard wins the penalties for Chelsea
i find it strange why people cant just be objective, i understand that chelsea fans will be biased towards Hazard & likewise Arsenal fans to Sanchez.
So rather than decide who the better player is, cos both set of fans will never reach an agreement, we can decide who thus far has had a better season:
Eg Welbz or Costa - Costa
Courtois or Szcz - Courtois
Sanchez or Hazard - Sanchez
Chelsea or Arsenal - Chelsea
One thing to take into consideration is that Hazard is probably in a much more disciplined team with a more defined role whereas Sanchez pretty much has the freedom to do what he wants.
comment by HUNTING FOR GLORY (U16317)
posted 32 seconds ago
i find it strange why people cant just be objective, i understand that chelsea fans will be biased towards Hazard & likewise Arsenal fans to Sanchez.
So rather than decide who the better player is, cos both set of fans will never reach an agreement, we can decide who thus far has had a better season:
Eg Welbz or Costa - Costa
Courtois or Szcz - Courtois
Sanchez or Hazard - Sanchez
Chelsea or Arsenal - Chelsea
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there are some Chelsea fans who have said Sanchez and some Arsenal fans who have said Hazard....
Courtois
Ivan Koscienly Terry Azpi
Matic Fabregas
Sanchez Ozil Hazard
Costa
Pretty much this. Hazard is underrated because he has world class players around him and doesn't stand out like Alexis does.
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I don't quite see it like that. Hazard wouldn't play better with us. Bringing in the likes of Cesc and Costa has seen him step up a level this season. Also, think of the times, Alexis' good work is wasted by donkeys like Welbeck, Giroud and Sanogo, or the wastefulness of the likes of Ox and Santi. Even Walcott missed a sitter today from his pass.
comment by Godleebarnes (U9902)
posted 2 minutes ago
One thing to take into consideration is that Hazard is probably in a much more disciplined team with a more defined role whereas Sanchez pretty much has the freedom to do what he wants.
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Imagine an Arsenal fan saying Ozil is superior to Cesc but unfortunately gets played on the wings which hinders his effectiveness!!!
Would u accept that as a valid point?
I think Hazard will win the PFA Player of the Year.
For Arsenal I think it'd be a poisoned chalice if Sanchez were to win it. He'd almost certainly leave in the summer
comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by HUNTING FOR GLORY (U16317)
posted 32 seconds ago
i find it strange why people cant just be objective, i understand that chelsea fans will be biased towards Hazard & likewise Arsenal fans to Sanchez.
So rather than decide who the better player is, cos both set of fans will never reach an agreement, we can decide who thus far has had a better season:
Eg Welbz or Costa - Costa
Courtois or Szcz - Courtois
Sanchez or Hazard - Sanchez
Chelsea or Arsenal - Chelsea
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there are some Chelsea fans who have said Sanchez and some Arsenal fans who have said Hazard....
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Really!!! which Chelsea fan said Sanchez?
comment by Obers - 2015: Chelsea's Year (U3904)
posted 43 seconds ago
I think Hazard will win the PFA Player of the Year.
For Arsenal I think it'd be a poisoned chalice if Sanchez were to win it. He'd almost certainly leave in the summer
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Ironically if he joins another club, you wont have a problem accepting his superiority to Hazard
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 3 minutes ago
Pretty much this. Hazard is underrated because he has world class players around him and doesn't stand out like Alexis does.
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I don't quite see it like that. Hazard wouldn't play better with us. Bringing in the likes of Cesc and Costa has seen him step up a level this season. Also, think of the times, Alexis' good work is wasted by donkeys like Welbeck, Giroud and Sanogo, or the wastefulness of the likes of Ox and Santi. Even Walcott missed a sitter today from his pass.
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Sorry but that's rubbish, Hazard carried us in the title race last season, and even now he still has to shoulder a lot of responsibility due to our other AMs being ridiculously inconsistent in the final 3rd.
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I thought Hazard was better than Sanchez when he played for Barca.
Really!!! which Chelsea fan said Sanchez?
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The OP?
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 48 seconds ago
Really!!! which Chelsea fan said Sanchez?
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The OP?
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One thing to take into consideration is that Hazard is probably in a much more disciplined team with a more defined role whereas Sanchez pretty much has the freedom to do what he wants.
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Imagine an Arsenal fan saying Ozil is superior to Cesc but unfortunately gets played on the wings which hinders his effectiveness!!!
Would u accept that as a valid point?
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Yeah if Ozil had played superior to Cesc before being moved to the wing, as he wasn't performing great when he was played central. Which probably has something to do with him being moved wide.
Sorry but that's rubbish, Hazard carried us in the title race last season, and even now he still has to shoulder a lot of responsibility due to our other AMs being ridiculously inconsistent in the final 3rd.
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Hazard is playing at a higher level this season. If you went through loads of his stats, he's doing a lot of stuff better than he was last season. He's not carrying you now. He's the best player among a very talented group of midfielders and attackers in your teams
in conclusion everyone has different opinions on the matter, who would have thought it!!!
OP regarding your point about effecting the scoreline you don't have to be a stat who re to do that.
Look at the Swansea game for example, Diego hattrick couple of assists for Cesc yet I still think Hazard was the best player on the day by a mile.
Arsenal and QPR we weren't playing well and looked devoid of ideas, that's until Hazard turns it on skins 4 off there players and wins a penalty both times.
Tottenham, he single handedly created the chance that led to us opening the scoring.
comment by Godleebarnes (U9902)
posted 35 seconds ago
One thing to take into consideration is that Hazard is probably in a much more disciplined team with a more defined role whereas Sanchez pretty much has the freedom to do what he wants.
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Imagine an Arsenal fan saying Ozil is superior to Cesc but unfortunately gets played on the wings which hinders his effectiveness!!!
Would u accept that as a valid point?
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Yeah if Ozil had played superior to Cesc before being moved to the wing, as he wasn't performing great when he was played central. Which probably has something to do with him being moved wide.
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Thanks and i quote 'if Ozil had played superior to Cesc before being moved to the wing'
so when has Hazard played better when he played in a less disciplined Chelsea team?!?!?!
The reality is he's actually been more effective than ever
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 2 minutes ago
Sorry but that's rubbish, Hazard carried us in the title race last season, and even now he still has to shoulder a lot of responsibility due to our other AMs being ridiculously inconsistent in the final 3rd.
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Hazard is playing at a higher level this season. If you went through loads of his stats, he's doing a lot of stuff better than he was last season. He's not carrying you now. He's the best player among a very talented group of midfielders and attackers in your teams
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Well like ive just said, I think we would have dropped points against both Arsenal and QPR if he didn't turn it on and win us pens at a crucial time, likewise Southampton, losing creating next to nothing then all off a sudden Hazard bursts past two defenders, 1-1.
He's better than last season but that's just natural growth off a young player.
Thanks and i quote 'if Ozil had played superior to Cesc before being moved to the wing'
so when has Hazard played better when he played in a less disciplined Chelsea team?!?!?!
The reality is he's actually been more effective than ever
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Where did I say that he had? And I'll add a smiley to make it look like I've proved you wrong .
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Where did I say that he had?And I'll add a smiley to make it look like I've proved you wrong.
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comment by Godleebarnes (U9902)
posted 35 seconds ago
One thing to take into consideration is that Hazard is probably in a much more disciplined team with a more defined role whereas Sanchez pretty much has the freedom to do what he wants.
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So what exactly was your point when u made this statement?!?!
Well like ive just said, I think we would have dropped points against both Arsenal and QPR if he didn't turn it on and win us pens at a crucial time, likewise Southampton, losing creating next to nothing then all off a sudden Hazard bursts past two defenders, 1-1.
He's better than last season but that's just natural growth off a young player.
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And also because Cesc and Costa would get more out of you than Ramires and Torres.
Hmm, I find this a difficult one to judge, Hazard is now my favourite player, after his work this season. Destroys teams constantly, keeps going for the whole time and doesn't go down easily whilst being fouled repeatedly. He was also the only player to come out of that Tottenham defeat with any credit in my eyes .
On the other hand, sanchez is amazing, scores all kinds of goals and has really carried Arsenal through a lot of this season. I would probably have to choose Hazard, but only just, and only as I have seen him more.
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posted on 11/1/15
equally o/s players
posted on 11/1/15
comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 1 minute ago
Hazard takes the penalties for Chelsea.
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Hazard wins the penalties for Chelsea
posted on 11/1/15
i find it strange why people cant just be objective, i understand that chelsea fans will be biased towards Hazard & likewise Arsenal fans to Sanchez.
So rather than decide who the better player is, cos both set of fans will never reach an agreement, we can decide who thus far has had a better season:
Eg Welbz or Costa - Costa
Courtois or Szcz - Courtois
Sanchez or Hazard - Sanchez
Chelsea or Arsenal - Chelsea
posted on 11/1/15
One thing to take into consideration is that Hazard is probably in a much more disciplined team with a more defined role whereas Sanchez pretty much has the freedom to do what he wants.
posted on 11/1/15
comment by HUNTING FOR GLORY (U16317)
posted 32 seconds ago
i find it strange why people cant just be objective, i understand that chelsea fans will be biased towards Hazard & likewise Arsenal fans to Sanchez.
So rather than decide who the better player is, cos both set of fans will never reach an agreement, we can decide who thus far has had a better season:
Eg Welbz or Costa - Costa
Courtois or Szcz - Courtois
Sanchez or Hazard - Sanchez
Chelsea or Arsenal - Chelsea
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there are some Chelsea fans who have said Sanchez and some Arsenal fans who have said Hazard....
posted on 11/1/15
Courtois
Ivan Koscienly Terry Azpi
Matic Fabregas
Sanchez Ozil Hazard
Costa
posted on 11/1/15
Pretty much this. Hazard is underrated because he has world class players around him and doesn't stand out like Alexis does.
-----------------------------------------------------------
I don't quite see it like that. Hazard wouldn't play better with us. Bringing in the likes of Cesc and Costa has seen him step up a level this season. Also, think of the times, Alexis' good work is wasted by donkeys like Welbeck, Giroud and Sanogo, or the wastefulness of the likes of Ox and Santi. Even Walcott missed a sitter today from his pass.
posted on 11/1/15
comment by Godleebarnes (U9902)
posted 2 minutes ago
One thing to take into consideration is that Hazard is probably in a much more disciplined team with a more defined role whereas Sanchez pretty much has the freedom to do what he wants.
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Imagine an Arsenal fan saying Ozil is superior to Cesc but unfortunately gets played on the wings which hinders his effectiveness!!!
Would u accept that as a valid point?
posted on 11/1/15
I think Hazard will win the PFA Player of the Year.
For Arsenal I think it'd be a poisoned chalice if Sanchez were to win it. He'd almost certainly leave in the summer
posted on 11/1/15
comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by HUNTING FOR GLORY (U16317)
posted 32 seconds ago
i find it strange why people cant just be objective, i understand that chelsea fans will be biased towards Hazard & likewise Arsenal fans to Sanchez.
So rather than decide who the better player is, cos both set of fans will never reach an agreement, we can decide who thus far has had a better season:
Eg Welbz or Costa - Costa
Courtois or Szcz - Courtois
Sanchez or Hazard - Sanchez
Chelsea or Arsenal - Chelsea
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there are some Chelsea fans who have said Sanchez and some Arsenal fans who have said Hazard....
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Really!!! which Chelsea fan said Sanchez?
posted on 11/1/15
comment by Obers - 2015: Chelsea's Year (U3904)
posted 43 seconds ago
I think Hazard will win the PFA Player of the Year.
For Arsenal I think it'd be a poisoned chalice if Sanchez were to win it. He'd almost certainly leave in the summer
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Ironically if he joins another club, you wont have a problem accepting his superiority to Hazard
posted on 11/1/15
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 3 minutes ago
Pretty much this. Hazard is underrated because he has world class players around him and doesn't stand out like Alexis does.
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I don't quite see it like that. Hazard wouldn't play better with us. Bringing in the likes of Cesc and Costa has seen him step up a level this season. Also, think of the times, Alexis' good work is wasted by donkeys like Welbeck, Giroud and Sanogo, or the wastefulness of the likes of Ox and Santi. Even Walcott missed a sitter today from his pass.
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Sorry but that's rubbish, Hazard carried us in the title race last season, and even now he still has to shoulder a lot of responsibility due to our other AMs being ridiculously inconsistent in the final 3rd.
posted on 11/1/15
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I thought Hazard was better than Sanchez when he played for Barca.
posted on 11/1/15
Really!!! which Chelsea fan said Sanchez?
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The OP?
posted on 11/1/15
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 48 seconds ago
Really!!! which Chelsea fan said Sanchez?
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The OP?
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posted on 11/1/15
One thing to take into consideration is that Hazard is probably in a much more disciplined team with a more defined role whereas Sanchez pretty much has the freedom to do what he wants.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine an Arsenal fan saying Ozil is superior to Cesc but unfortunately gets played on the wings which hinders his effectiveness!!!
Would u accept that as a valid point?
----------------
Yeah if Ozil had played superior to Cesc before being moved to the wing, as he wasn't performing great when he was played central. Which probably has something to do with him being moved wide.
posted on 11/1/15
Sorry but that's rubbish, Hazard carried us in the title race last season, and even now he still has to shoulder a lot of responsibility due to our other AMs being ridiculously inconsistent in the final 3rd.
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Hazard is playing at a higher level this season. If you went through loads of his stats, he's doing a lot of stuff better than he was last season. He's not carrying you now. He's the best player among a very talented group of midfielders and attackers in your teams
posted on 11/1/15
in conclusion everyone has different opinions on the matter, who would have thought it!!!
posted on 11/1/15
OP regarding your point about effecting the scoreline you don't have to be a stat who re to do that.
Look at the Swansea game for example, Diego hattrick couple of assists for Cesc yet I still think Hazard was the best player on the day by a mile.
Arsenal and QPR we weren't playing well and looked devoid of ideas, that's until Hazard turns it on skins 4 off there players and wins a penalty both times.
Tottenham, he single handedly created the chance that led to us opening the scoring.
posted on 11/1/15
comment by Godleebarnes (U9902)
posted 35 seconds ago
One thing to take into consideration is that Hazard is probably in a much more disciplined team with a more defined role whereas Sanchez pretty much has the freedom to do what he wants.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Imagine an Arsenal fan saying Ozil is superior to Cesc but unfortunately gets played on the wings which hinders his effectiveness!!!
Would u accept that as a valid point?
----------------
Yeah if Ozil had played superior to Cesc before being moved to the wing, as he wasn't performing great when he was played central. Which probably has something to do with him being moved wide.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks and i quote 'if Ozil had played superior to Cesc before being moved to the wing'
so when has Hazard played better when he played in a less disciplined Chelsea team?!?!?!
The reality is he's actually been more effective than ever
posted on 11/1/15
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 2 minutes ago
Sorry but that's rubbish, Hazard carried us in the title race last season, and even now he still has to shoulder a lot of responsibility due to our other AMs being ridiculously inconsistent in the final 3rd.
-----------------------------------------------
Hazard is playing at a higher level this season. If you went through loads of his stats, he's doing a lot of stuff better than he was last season. He's not carrying you now. He's the best player among a very talented group of midfielders and attackers in your teams
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Well like ive just said, I think we would have dropped points against both Arsenal and QPR if he didn't turn it on and win us pens at a crucial time, likewise Southampton, losing creating next to nothing then all off a sudden Hazard bursts past two defenders, 1-1.
He's better than last season but that's just natural growth off a young player.
posted on 11/1/15
Thanks and i quote 'if Ozil had played superior to Cesc before being moved to the wing'
so when has Hazard played better when he played in a less disciplined Chelsea team?!?!?!
The reality is he's actually been more effective than ever
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Where did I say that he had? And I'll add a smiley to make it look like I've proved you wrong .
posted on 11/1/15
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Where did I say that he had?And I'll add a smiley to make it look like I've proved you wrong.
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comment by Godleebarnes (U9902)
posted 35 seconds ago
One thing to take into consideration is that Hazard is probably in a much more disciplined team with a more defined role whereas Sanchez pretty much has the freedom to do what he wants.
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So what exactly was your point when u made this statement?!?!
posted on 11/1/15
Well like ive just said, I think we would have dropped points against both Arsenal and QPR if he didn't turn it on and win us pens at a crucial time, likewise Southampton, losing creating next to nothing then all off a sudden Hazard bursts past two defenders, 1-1.
He's better than last season but that's just natural growth off a young player.
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And also because Cesc and Costa would get more out of you than Ramires and Torres.
posted on 11/1/15
Hmm, I find this a difficult one to judge, Hazard is now my favourite player, after his work this season. Destroys teams constantly, keeps going for the whole time and doesn't go down easily whilst being fouled repeatedly. He was also the only player to come out of that Tottenham defeat with any credit in my eyes .
On the other hand, sanchez is amazing, scores all kinds of goals and has really carried Arsenal through a lot of this season. I would probably have to choose Hazard, but only just, and only as I have seen him more.
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