You should be more impressed with who executed it, and not who made a basic observation.
"You should be more impressed with who executed it, and not who made a basic observation."
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It's not a basic observation, I bet nobody on here noticed it.
Good stuff by Wenger
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 6 minutes ago
You should be more impressed with who executed it, and not who made a basic observation.
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Being impressed with Santi goes without saying. Your comment is easy to say in hindsight. Stop being so bladdy negative
Pretty sure everyone was impressed with Santi and rightly so. Clearly Wenger deserves some credit though, great observation.
comment by John Locke (U1204)
posted 23 minutes ago
"You should be more impressed with who executed it, and not who made a basic observation."
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It's not a basic observation, I bet nobody on here noticed it.
Good stuff by Wenger
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Cant believe someone was stupid enough to write that.
You expect armchair fans on a football forum to put in the same research of a billion pound football club who employ numerous staff to work full time on football, which will include analysts who are employed to review opposition teams and provide information like that. Failure to do this would be incredible negligence by the club, but for most fans they would barely notice it if it happened with their own goalkeeper and I don't have a problem with that. We on the most part just want to enjoy the game.
" Cant believe someone was stupid enough to write that.
You expect armchair fans on a football forum to put in the same research of a billion pound football club who employ numerous staff to work full time on football, which will include analysts who are employed to review opposition teams and provide information like that. Failure to do this would be incredible negligence by the club, but for most fans they would barely notice it if it happened with their own goalkeeper and I don't have a problem with that. We on the most part just want to enjoy the game."
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It was Wenger himself who spotted it you dumb, senite pri.ck
senile*
It's not haram to give credit when it's due y'know, regardless of what you think of Wenger overall.
It IS a basic observation. Goalies' habits, especially on set-pieces where it's even more visible, are generally basic stuff. Chesney himself likes to lean close the wall on set-pieces. So do the likes of Lloris. The execution beating a keeper slightly off his line from that distance would take 98% of the credit.
Feel like I want to congratulate someone here, but can't decide whether it should be Santi, or Arsene.
Because obviously it can't be both...
It's funny how people can't give Wenger any credit all these days. It's pretty pathetic. Don't care if you want him gone, you should still be able to view things objectively. It's the behaviour of many of those who want Wenger to leave, which makes some Arsenal fans vigorously defend him.
Tbh I think the clue is in Santi's quote: "..the boss had told us that their goalkeeper always took a step towards the wall when facing free-kicks..." would seem to indicate that, basic observation though it may or may not be, the player(s) were unaware of it.
They get paid quite well too.
Crediting Wenger for small-time, routine stuff like that seems pretty over the top. It's not worthy of an article. "oh, our £8m-a-year manager observed the opposition keeper steps forward on set-pieces. What a legend". I give Wenger credit when due, like the City game, not routine crap.
This can't be true, Wenger never watches or anaylses opposition .
Without such 'routine crap' perhaps Santi puts the ball into a different area and what was his game-changing goal is instead saved?
Great empires are often built on seemingly mediocre events.
comment by John Locke (U1204)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
" Cant believe someone was stupid enough to write that.
You expect armchair fans on a football forum to put in the same research of a billion pound football club who employ numerous staff to work full time on football, which will include analysts who are employed to review opposition teams and provide information like that. Failure to do this would be incredible negligence by the club, but for most fans they would barely notice it if it happened with their own goalkeeper and I don't have a problem with that. We on the most part just want to enjoy the game."
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It was Wenger himself who spotted it you dumb, senite pri.ck
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Football clubs have people to pass this information to the managers. The managers don't sit watching hours of the opposition playing themselves you dumbass. Wenger may have said it, but you can be pretty damn sure it wasn't him who spotted it. Wenger has said himself in interviews that he does not watch the opposition himself.in preparation for games.
Wasn't it Wenger who brought this analytical approach into the EPL? Yes there were stats before Wenger, but the researched mathematical approach that all clubs now use, is built on his example/model. So whether it's something he saw or the analysts team saw, he gets the credit either way.
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Come on Sheriff things are looking on the up, throw Arsene a bone
comment by Big Willy-Sanchez..Big name players don't sign for Pool. (U1100)
posted 50 minutes ago
Jose knows the shoe size of the 3rd choice opposition goal keeper so there.
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He knows how to make use of his football analysts then.
I cant believe that you lot are genuinely that naïve as to think top level managers sit there for hours on end watching every aspect of the opponents play. They have analysts to do it for them and then tell them what they need to know. In this case the analyst has done his job well and deserves the credit. Wenger does get a little credit for listening and passing the info onto Cazorla, but that is all.
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 8 hours, 5 minutes ago
Crediting Wenger for small-time, routine stuff like that seems pretty over the top. It's not worthy of an article. "oh, our £8m-a-year manager observed the opposition keeper steps forward on set-pieces. What a legend". I give Wenger credit when due, like the City game, not routine crap.
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Apparently reports saying that was down to the players pleading to Wenger to go 4141.
"Apparently reports saying that was down to the players pleading to Wenger to go 4141."
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Most Gooners were pleading with Wenger to drop the 4-1-4-1 earlier in the season and revert back to last season's formation.
Maybe that says more about their respective faith in Coquelin and Flamini than anything though...
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posted on 24/1/15
You should be more impressed with who executed it, and not who made a basic observation.
posted on 24/1/15
"You should be more impressed with who executed it, and not who made a basic observation."
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It's not a basic observation, I bet nobody on here noticed it.
Good stuff by Wenger
posted on 24/1/15
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 6 minutes ago
You should be more impressed with who executed it, and not who made a basic observation.
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Being impressed with Santi goes without saying. Your comment is easy to say in hindsight. Stop being so bladdy negative
posted on 24/1/15
Pretty sure everyone was impressed with Santi and rightly so. Clearly Wenger deserves some credit though, great observation.
posted on 24/1/15
comment by John Locke (U1204)
posted 23 minutes ago
"You should be more impressed with who executed it, and not who made a basic observation."
===
It's not a basic observation, I bet nobody on here noticed it.
Good stuff by Wenger
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Cant believe someone was stupid enough to write that.
You expect armchair fans on a football forum to put in the same research of a billion pound football club who employ numerous staff to work full time on football, which will include analysts who are employed to review opposition teams and provide information like that. Failure to do this would be incredible negligence by the club, but for most fans they would barely notice it if it happened with their own goalkeeper and I don't have a problem with that. We on the most part just want to enjoy the game.
posted on 24/1/15
" Cant believe someone was stupid enough to write that.
You expect armchair fans on a football forum to put in the same research of a billion pound football club who employ numerous staff to work full time on football, which will include analysts who are employed to review opposition teams and provide information like that. Failure to do this would be incredible negligence by the club, but for most fans they would barely notice it if it happened with their own goalkeeper and I don't have a problem with that. We on the most part just want to enjoy the game."
===
It was Wenger himself who spotted it you dumb, senite pri.ck
posted on 24/1/15
senile*
It's not haram to give credit when it's due y'know, regardless of what you think of Wenger overall.
posted on 24/1/15
It IS a basic observation. Goalies' habits, especially on set-pieces where it's even more visible, are generally basic stuff. Chesney himself likes to lean close the wall on set-pieces. So do the likes of Lloris. The execution beating a keeper slightly off his line from that distance would take 98% of the credit.
posted on 24/1/15
Feel like I want to congratulate someone here, but can't decide whether it should be Santi, or Arsene.
Because obviously it can't be both...
posted on 24/1/15
It's funny how people can't give Wenger any credit all these days. It's pretty pathetic. Don't care if you want him gone, you should still be able to view things objectively. It's the behaviour of many of those who want Wenger to leave, which makes some Arsenal fans vigorously defend him.
posted on 24/1/15
Tbh I think the clue is in Santi's quote: "..the boss had told us that their goalkeeper always took a step towards the wall when facing free-kicks..." would seem to indicate that, basic observation though it may or may not be, the player(s) were unaware of it.
They get paid quite well too.
posted on 24/1/15
Crediting Wenger for small-time, routine stuff like that seems pretty over the top. It's not worthy of an article. "oh, our £8m-a-year manager observed the opposition keeper steps forward on set-pieces. What a legend". I give Wenger credit when due, like the City game, not routine crap.
posted on 24/1/15
This can't be true, Wenger never watches or anaylses opposition .
posted on 24/1/15
Without such 'routine crap' perhaps Santi puts the ball into a different area and what was his game-changing goal is instead saved?
Great empires are often built on seemingly mediocre events.
posted on 24/1/15
comment by John Locke (U1204)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
" Cant believe someone was stupid enough to write that.
You expect armchair fans on a football forum to put in the same research of a billion pound football club who employ numerous staff to work full time on football, which will include analysts who are employed to review opposition teams and provide information like that. Failure to do this would be incredible negligence by the club, but for most fans they would barely notice it if it happened with their own goalkeeper and I don't have a problem with that. We on the most part just want to enjoy the game."
===
It was Wenger himself who spotted it you dumb, senite pri.ck
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Football clubs have people to pass this information to the managers. The managers don't sit watching hours of the opposition playing themselves you dumbass. Wenger may have said it, but you can be pretty damn sure it wasn't him who spotted it. Wenger has said himself in interviews that he does not watch the opposition himself.in preparation for games.
posted on 24/1/15
That is Wengers job ffs.
posted on 24/1/15
posted on 24/1/15
Wasn't it Wenger who brought this analytical approach into the EPL? Yes there were stats before Wenger, but the researched mathematical approach that all clubs now use, is built on his example/model. So whether it's something he saw or the analysts team saw, he gets the credit either way.
,
Come on Sheriff things are looking on the up, throw Arsene a bone
posted on 24/1/15
comment by Big Willy-Sanchez..Big name players don't sign for Pool. (U1100)
posted 50 minutes ago
Jose knows the shoe size of the 3rd choice opposition goal keeper so there.
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He knows how to make use of his football analysts then.
I cant believe that you lot are genuinely that naïve as to think top level managers sit there for hours on end watching every aspect of the opponents play. They have analysts to do it for them and then tell them what they need to know. In this case the analyst has done his job well and deserves the credit. Wenger does get a little credit for listening and passing the info onto Cazorla, but that is all.
posted on 24/1/15
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 8 hours, 5 minutes ago
Crediting Wenger for small-time, routine stuff like that seems pretty over the top. It's not worthy of an article. "oh, our £8m-a-year manager observed the opposition keeper steps forward on set-pieces. What a legend". I give Wenger credit when due, like the City game, not routine crap.
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Apparently reports saying that was down to the players pleading to Wenger to go 4141.
posted on 24/1/15
"Apparently reports saying that was down to the players pleading to Wenger to go 4141."
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Most Gooners were pleading with Wenger to drop the 4-1-4-1 earlier in the season and revert back to last season's formation.
Maybe that says more about their respective faith in Coquelin and Flamini than anything though...
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