Just watched raw on sky plus and they showed the title match and rumble match!!
So glad I didn't waste any money on ppv!
They show the whole matches?
Yes - the snow storms in the US meant they had to cancel the normal taping so they had a couple of interviews, JBL on a rooftop and a replay of title match and rumble match.
Secondly, the response to the cancel network tweets has been people suggesting that it's fanboys getting their y-fronts in a twist.
I disagree. People who buy the network are consumers and I think there's an onus on the company to keep them sweet. 10 years of Cena has been hard to take for certain fans (many of whom no longer watch)
People don't like to be told who's the best, they judge that for themselves. Austin was an anti hero who the crowd adored and it got him to the top.
Reigns is liked but the company are automatically putting him at the tip of the tree - main eventing Mania for goodness sake.
Wrestling isn't real of course but we'd still like to see a bit of realism brought to the show. This forcing the issue for merchandise purposes is awful.
The cancel network trend may actually help to wake up the powers that be in that people aren't gonna fork out £120 a year just to be taken on a ride.
Wrestling isn't real of course but we'd still like to see a bit of realism brought to the show. This forcing the issue for merchandise purposes is awful.
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Having Bryan win the rumble after being back for about 3 weeks after an 8 month injury lay-off isn't what I'd consider "realism" though, that's childish fairytale stuff. They got their dose of that last year when he beat HHH, Batista and Orton in the same night yet they still want to cry?
That he needed The Rock to help him win, appaling, makes him look weak indeed.
Sometimes I wonder if anyone at WWE actually watches their programmes, or listens to anyone that isn't a yes man?
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Wrestling isn't real of course but we'd still like to see a bit of realism brought to the show. This forcing the issue for merchandise purposes is awful.
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Having Bryan win the rumble after being back for about 3 weeks after an 8 month injury lay-off isn't what I'd consider "realism" though, that's childish fairytale stuff. They got their dose of that last year when he beat HHH, Batista and Orton in the same night yet they still want to cry?
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You need to get over this Bryan thing, it's not about him not winning. I couldn't care less about Bryan winning, I wanted Ambrose to win.
It's the fact that Reigns won (who also was only back from an injury btw) despite several other guys being far more popular than him, and the fact that guys like Ambrose, Wyatt, Ziggler looked like nobodies and got dropped over the top with no resistance whatsoever by Show and Kane to make Reigns look even better.
It was a shambles. And their beef isn't with Reigns it's with WWE
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posted 8 hours, 30 minutes ago
Wrestling isn't real of course but we'd still like to see a bit of realism brought to the show. This forcing the issue for merchandise purposes is awful.
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Having Bryan win the rumble after being back for about 3 weeks after an 8 month injury lay-off isn't what I'd consider "realism" though, that's childish fairytale stuff. They got their dose of that last year when he beat HHH, Batista and Orton in the same night yet they still want to cry?
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You need to get over this Bryan thing, it's not about him not winning. I couldn't care less about Bryan winning, I wanted Ambrose to win.
It's the fact that Reigns won (who also was only back from an injury btw) despite several other guys being far more popular than him, and the fact that guys like Ambrose, Wyatt, Ziggler looked like nobodies and got dropped over the top with no resistance whatsoever by Show and Kane to make Reigns look even better.
It was a shambles. And their beef isn't with Reigns it's with WWE
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I've not said their beef is with Reigns. Their beef is that Bryan didn't win. If the reports of the booing for every entrant after Bryan got eliminated is true it sounds as though if he didn't win they wouldn't have been happy regardless of who won it.
Well said Ledley.
Like you I hate these baby faces (Cena/Bryan/Ziggler)
Imagine Lesnar vs Bryan at Wrestlemania.
Lesnar vs Bryan at Wrestlemania? Brilliant contrast in styles with 2 men at the top of their respective ways. Better than Lesnar vs Reigns anyway.
When you won SOTY at the Slammy's a few months back, and you're stood next to your cousin The Rock, and people are still booing your RR win, wtf is going on with the fans there?
MITB when does he have to cash in that briefcase by, is it one year from winning it, or Wrestlemania? I might be getting confused cos the very first MITB match was at a Wrestlemania.
Does anybody see parallels between this and the Rock circa 97?
Seems to me that Reigns has an opportunity to turn heel as mentioned and rip into the crowd. His turning would allow the older fans to have a direct dig at the Bryan fan base (which is bordering on a par with the cenation). It would also appeal to his what I would say natural heel aura.
The way Reigns is being funneled down the throats of the fans as the super face, is as sickly as it was all those years ago, when a similar move, birthed the Rocky sucks chants.
However unlike the Rock, Reigns has not shown the mic skills to really have a dig at the fan base, and thus is limited in his scope for booking.
Truth is the E are messing up massively with Reigns and are killing a possible great (heel). They have also shown that they have no regard for the fan base, with all this social media they have at their disposal, they ignored the multitudes of fans who saw Zigghler, Bray and Ambrose as more worthy of a push.
Well they brought Batista back as a face to win last years RR, and soon saw sense to turn him heel. One can only hope they might do something similar with Reigns.
Yes his mic skills/voice are weak, so a silent brooding killer heel persona is beckoning.
Also, why has HE kept The Shield's ring gear and entrance music? A complete makeover could be the making of his career.
And for the record - nobody was better than Bryan last year for wrestling and mic work
The audience were in the palms of his hands
Reigns just doesn't have that ... Yet
This whole Rocky Maivia in 1997 being shoved down the throats was in no way equivalent to the current predicament of Roman Reigns.
Firstly, Rocky Maivia was midcard in 1997, he got the Intercontinental Championship too early and lost it fairly easily on RAW. They were going on about him being a 3rd Generation Superstar and one for the future, but was he being set up to be the new face of the company. I highly doubt it.
He was just a new guy being promoted and getting moderate success too early, but he was not winning Royal Rumbles, beating top guys in the company, setting elimination records at Royal Rumbles etc. In truth he was a pretty bland face (just like The Ringmaster Steve Austin was a pretty bland heel), he made a change, it took a while, but eventually it worked and he became a massive star.
To people that say even The Rock couldn't get Reigns over as a reason why he'll never be popular, let's not forget that in Wrestlemania X8, The Rock (one of the most popular wrestlers at the time) was booed and even when Hogan virtually begged the crowd to cheer him, they still never listened. It has not stopped the Rock from being extremely popular since then.
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posted 8 hours, 30 minutes ago
Wrestling isn't real of course but we'd still like to see a bit of realism brought to the show. This forcing the issue for merchandise purposes is awful.
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Having Bryan win the rumble after being back for about 3 weeks after an 8 month injury lay-off isn't what I'd consider "realism" though, that's childish fairytale stuff. They got their dose of that last year when he beat HHH, Batista and Orton in the same night yet they still want to cry?
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You need to get over this Bryan thing, it's not about him not winning. I couldn't care less about Bryan winning, I wanted Ambrose to win.
It's the fact that Reigns won (who also was only back from an injury btw) despite several other guys being far more popular than him, and the fact that guys like Ambrose, Wyatt, Ziggler looked like nobodies and got dropped over the top with no resistance whatsoever by Show and Kane to make Reigns look even better.
It was a shambles. And their beef isn't with Reigns it's with WWE
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I've not said their beef is with Reigns. Their beef is that Bryan didn't win. If the reports of the booing for every entrant after Bryan got eliminated is true it sounds as though if he didn't win they wouldn't have been happy regardless of who won it.
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So you're making comments without even having watched it?
TLLL I guess you always thought Shawn Michaels was a joke as well then, or Chris Jericho?
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comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's resurrection: Football Manager legend & Wonderkid hunter - Barca MSN (U20121)
posted 8 hours, 30 minutes ago
Wrestling isn't real of course but we'd still like to see a bit of realism brought to the show. This forcing the issue for merchandise purposes is awful.
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Having Bryan win the rumble after being back for about 3 weeks after an 8 month injury lay-off isn't what I'd consider "realism" though, that's childish fairytale stuff. They got their dose of that last year when he beat HHH, Batista and Orton in the same night yet they still want to cry?
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You need to get over this Bryan thing, it's not about him not winning. I couldn't care less about Bryan winning, I wanted Ambrose to win.
It's the fact that Reigns won (who also was only back from an injury btw) despite several other guys being far more popular than him, and the fact that guys like Ambrose, Wyatt, Ziggler looked like nobodies and got dropped over the top with no resistance whatsoever by Show and Kane to make Reigns look even better.
It was a shambles. And their beef isn't with Reigns it's with WWE
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I've not said their beef is with Reigns. Their beef is that Bryan didn't win. If the reports of the booing for every entrant after Bryan got eliminated is true it sounds as though if he didn't win they wouldn't have been happy regardless of who won it.
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So you're making comments without even having watched it?
TLLL I guess you always thought Shawn Michaels was a joke as well then, or Chris Jericho?
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Yes I am making comments without watching it in full. Every single article I've read about RR has said that Bryan got eliminated early which the crowd didn't like, which resulted in boos for every single entrant after his elimination, chants of "bullshīt" from the crowd and I've seen the last few mins when they booed Reigns. Or have I read that wrong?
It's complete bullshlt to make out like it was all because Bryan was eliminated though. It was the fact that his elimination meant the result was sealed only halfway through the match.
And as I said, the handling of the Ambrose, Wyatt and Ziggler eliminations only threw more fuel on the fire.
Truth is the E are messing up massively with Reigns and are killing a possible great (heel).
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On the contrary. I'd say through accidental circumstance they've got a tremendous opportunity in front of them at Fastlane.
Consider the facts here....... Reigns is getting booed (posing as a face), Brock is getting cheered (playing a tweener) and Rollins is getting a split reaction (currently heel). There's a number of possibilities to play with character ideology here that could result in a great triple threat match at WM between the three of them. I presented my scenario on your article
No Randy I liked Jericho and Shawn Michaels. Just don't like the current baby faces in the WWE.
and the crowd did start booing everyone once Bryan got eliminated.
I've already addressed that point TLLL. Obviously a lot were annoyed that he wasn't going to win it, but that was far from the opt reason behind it, IMO.
I like the fact that Bryan wasn't nailed on to win it, especially after he won it last year.
Was also impressed with the systematic way Show and Kane knocked people out and then simply dumped them out.
I guess the E thought that the SOTY Slammy winner would be a big favourite.
I'd like to see the real family of Reigns e.g. The Rock, The Uso's etc. unite as a faction.
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posted on 27/1/15
Just watched raw on sky plus and they showed the title match and rumble match!!
So glad I didn't waste any money on ppv!
posted on 27/1/15
They show the whole matches?
posted on 27/1/15
Yes - the snow storms in the US meant they had to cancel the normal taping so they had a couple of interviews, JBL on a rooftop and a replay of title match and rumble match.
Secondly, the response to the cancel network tweets has been people suggesting that it's fanboys getting their y-fronts in a twist.
I disagree. People who buy the network are consumers and I think there's an onus on the company to keep them sweet. 10 years of Cena has been hard to take for certain fans (many of whom no longer watch)
People don't like to be told who's the best, they judge that for themselves. Austin was an anti hero who the crowd adored and it got him to the top.
Reigns is liked but the company are automatically putting him at the tip of the tree - main eventing Mania for goodness sake.
Wrestling isn't real of course but we'd still like to see a bit of realism brought to the show. This forcing the issue for merchandise purposes is awful.
The cancel network trend may actually help to wake up the powers that be in that people aren't gonna fork out £120 a year just to be taken on a ride.
posted on 27/1/15
Wrestling isn't real of course but we'd still like to see a bit of realism brought to the show. This forcing the issue for merchandise purposes is awful.
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Having Bryan win the rumble after being back for about 3 weeks after an 8 month injury lay-off isn't what I'd consider "realism" though, that's childish fairytale stuff. They got their dose of that last year when he beat HHH, Batista and Orton in the same night yet they still want to cry?
posted on 27/1/15
That he needed The Rock to help him win, appaling, makes him look weak indeed.
Sometimes I wonder if anyone at WWE actually watches their programmes, or listens to anyone that isn't a yes man?
posted on 27/1/15
comment by Ledley's resurrection: Football Manager legend & Wonderkid hunter - Barca MSN (U20121)
posted 8 hours, 30 minutes ago
Wrestling isn't real of course but we'd still like to see a bit of realism brought to the show. This forcing the issue for merchandise purposes is awful.
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Having Bryan win the rumble after being back for about 3 weeks after an 8 month injury lay-off isn't what I'd consider "realism" though, that's childish fairytale stuff. They got their dose of that last year when he beat HHH, Batista and Orton in the same night yet they still want to cry?
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You need to get over this Bryan thing, it's not about him not winning. I couldn't care less about Bryan winning, I wanted Ambrose to win.
It's the fact that Reigns won (who also was only back from an injury btw) despite several other guys being far more popular than him, and the fact that guys like Ambrose, Wyatt, Ziggler looked like nobodies and got dropped over the top with no resistance whatsoever by Show and Kane to make Reigns look even better.
It was a shambles. And their beef isn't with Reigns it's with WWE
posted on 27/1/15
Ambrose, Wyatt
Ziggler
posted on 27/1/15
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's resurrection: Football Manager legend & Wonderkid hunter - Barca MSN (U20121)
posted 8 hours, 30 minutes ago
Wrestling isn't real of course but we'd still like to see a bit of realism brought to the show. This forcing the issue for merchandise purposes is awful.
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Having Bryan win the rumble after being back for about 3 weeks after an 8 month injury lay-off isn't what I'd consider "realism" though, that's childish fairytale stuff. They got their dose of that last year when he beat HHH, Batista and Orton in the same night yet they still want to cry?
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You need to get over this Bryan thing, it's not about him not winning. I couldn't care less about Bryan winning, I wanted Ambrose to win.
It's the fact that Reigns won (who also was only back from an injury btw) despite several other guys being far more popular than him, and the fact that guys like Ambrose, Wyatt, Ziggler looked like nobodies and got dropped over the top with no resistance whatsoever by Show and Kane to make Reigns look even better.
It was a shambles. And their beef isn't with Reigns it's with WWE
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I've not said their beef is with Reigns. Their beef is that Bryan didn't win. If the reports of the booing for every entrant after Bryan got eliminated is true it sounds as though if he didn't win they wouldn't have been happy regardless of who won it.
posted on 27/1/15
Well said Ledley.
Like you I hate these baby faces (Cena/Bryan/Ziggler)
Imagine Lesnar vs Bryan at Wrestlemania.
posted on 28/1/15
Lesnar vs Bryan at Wrestlemania? Brilliant contrast in styles with 2 men at the top of their respective ways. Better than Lesnar vs Reigns anyway.
When you won SOTY at the Slammy's a few months back, and you're stood next to your cousin The Rock, and people are still booing your RR win, wtf is going on with the fans there?
MITB when does he have to cash in that briefcase by, is it one year from winning it, or Wrestlemania? I might be getting confused cos the very first MITB match was at a Wrestlemania.
posted on 28/1/15
Does anybody see parallels between this and the Rock circa 97?
Seems to me that Reigns has an opportunity to turn heel as mentioned and rip into the crowd. His turning would allow the older fans to have a direct dig at the Bryan fan base (which is bordering on a par with the cenation). It would also appeal to his what I would say natural heel aura.
The way Reigns is being funneled down the throats of the fans as the super face, is as sickly as it was all those years ago, when a similar move, birthed the Rocky sucks chants.
However unlike the Rock, Reigns has not shown the mic skills to really have a dig at the fan base, and thus is limited in his scope for booking.
Truth is the E are messing up massively with Reigns and are killing a possible great (heel). They have also shown that they have no regard for the fan base, with all this social media they have at their disposal, they ignored the multitudes of fans who saw Zigghler, Bray and Ambrose as more worthy of a push.
posted on 28/1/15
Well they brought Batista back as a face to win last years RR, and soon saw sense to turn him heel. One can only hope they might do something similar with Reigns.
Yes his mic skills/voice are weak, so a silent brooding killer heel persona is beckoning.
Also, why has HE kept The Shield's ring gear and entrance music? A complete makeover could be the making of his career.
posted on 28/1/15
And for the record - nobody was better than Bryan last year for wrestling and mic work
The audience were in the palms of his hands
Reigns just doesn't have that ... Yet
posted on 28/1/15
This whole Rocky Maivia in 1997 being shoved down the throats was in no way equivalent to the current predicament of Roman Reigns.
Firstly, Rocky Maivia was midcard in 1997, he got the Intercontinental Championship too early and lost it fairly easily on RAW. They were going on about him being a 3rd Generation Superstar and one for the future, but was he being set up to be the new face of the company. I highly doubt it.
He was just a new guy being promoted and getting moderate success too early, but he was not winning Royal Rumbles, beating top guys in the company, setting elimination records at Royal Rumbles etc. In truth he was a pretty bland face (just like The Ringmaster Steve Austin was a pretty bland heel), he made a change, it took a while, but eventually it worked and he became a massive star.
To people that say even The Rock couldn't get Reigns over as a reason why he'll never be popular, let's not forget that in Wrestlemania X8, The Rock (one of the most popular wrestlers at the time) was booed and even when Hogan virtually begged the crowd to cheer him, they still never listened. It has not stopped the Rock from being extremely popular since then.
posted on 28/1/15
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comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's resurrection: Football Manager legend & Wonderkid hunter - Barca MSN (U20121)
posted 8 hours, 30 minutes ago
Wrestling isn't real of course but we'd still like to see a bit of realism brought to the show. This forcing the issue for merchandise purposes is awful.
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Having Bryan win the rumble after being back for about 3 weeks after an 8 month injury lay-off isn't what I'd consider "realism" though, that's childish fairytale stuff. They got their dose of that last year when he beat HHH, Batista and Orton in the same night yet they still want to cry?
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You need to get over this Bryan thing, it's not about him not winning. I couldn't care less about Bryan winning, I wanted Ambrose to win.
It's the fact that Reigns won (who also was only back from an injury btw) despite several other guys being far more popular than him, and the fact that guys like Ambrose, Wyatt, Ziggler looked like nobodies and got dropped over the top with no resistance whatsoever by Show and Kane to make Reigns look even better.
It was a shambles. And their beef isn't with Reigns it's with WWE
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I've not said their beef is with Reigns. Their beef is that Bryan didn't win. If the reports of the booing for every entrant after Bryan got eliminated is true it sounds as though if he didn't win they wouldn't have been happy regardless of who won it.
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So you're making comments without even having watched it?
TLLL I guess you always thought Shawn Michaels was a joke as well then, or Chris Jericho?
posted on 28/1/15
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's resurrection: Football Manager legend & Wonderkid hunter - Barca MSN (U20121)
posted 19 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Ledley's resurrection: Football Manager legend & Wonderkid hunter - Barca MSN (U20121)
posted 8 hours, 30 minutes ago
Wrestling isn't real of course but we'd still like to see a bit of realism brought to the show. This forcing the issue for merchandise purposes is awful.
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Having Bryan win the rumble after being back for about 3 weeks after an 8 month injury lay-off isn't what I'd consider "realism" though, that's childish fairytale stuff. They got their dose of that last year when he beat HHH, Batista and Orton in the same night yet they still want to cry?
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You need to get over this Bryan thing, it's not about him not winning. I couldn't care less about Bryan winning, I wanted Ambrose to win.
It's the fact that Reigns won (who also was only back from an injury btw) despite several other guys being far more popular than him, and the fact that guys like Ambrose, Wyatt, Ziggler looked like nobodies and got dropped over the top with no resistance whatsoever by Show and Kane to make Reigns look even better.
It was a shambles. And their beef isn't with Reigns it's with WWE
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I've not said their beef is with Reigns. Their beef is that Bryan didn't win. If the reports of the booing for every entrant after Bryan got eliminated is true it sounds as though if he didn't win they wouldn't have been happy regardless of who won it.
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So you're making comments without even having watched it?
TLLL I guess you always thought Shawn Michaels was a joke as well then, or Chris Jericho?
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Yes I am making comments without watching it in full. Every single article I've read about RR has said that Bryan got eliminated early which the crowd didn't like, which resulted in boos for every single entrant after his elimination, chants of "bullshīt" from the crowd and I've seen the last few mins when they booed Reigns. Or have I read that wrong?
posted on 28/1/15
It's complete bullshlt to make out like it was all because Bryan was eliminated though. It was the fact that his elimination meant the result was sealed only halfway through the match.
And as I said, the handling of the Ambrose, Wyatt and Ziggler eliminations only threw more fuel on the fire.
posted on 29/1/15
Truth is the E are messing up massively with Reigns and are killing a possible great (heel).
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On the contrary. I'd say through accidental circumstance they've got a tremendous opportunity in front of them at Fastlane.
Consider the facts here....... Reigns is getting booed (posing as a face), Brock is getting cheered (playing a tweener) and Rollins is getting a split reaction (currently heel). There's a number of possibilities to play with character ideology here that could result in a great triple threat match at WM between the three of them. I presented my scenario on your article
posted on 29/1/15
No Randy I liked Jericho and Shawn Michaels. Just don't like the current baby faces in the WWE.
and the crowd did start booing everyone once Bryan got eliminated.
posted on 29/1/15
I've already addressed that point TLLL. Obviously a lot were annoyed that he wasn't going to win it, but that was far from the opt reason behind it, IMO.
posted on 29/1/15
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posted on 29/1/15
I like the fact that Bryan wasn't nailed on to win it, especially after he won it last year.
Was also impressed with the systematic way Show and Kane knocked people out and then simply dumped them out.
I guess the E thought that the SOTY Slammy winner would be a big favourite.
I'd like to see the real family of Reigns e.g. The Rock, The Uso's etc. unite as a faction.
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