What ever happened to the Wenger out brigade?

As long as he keeps playing centrally

Still want Wenger out, just he was right not to sign Cesc.

Santi has always been immense centrally, as long as he stays central, he will wreck teams. I just hope Wenger doesn't lose his bottle and move him back out wide. Play Ozil on the right, Santi central and Sanchez on the left

Then you have to ask the question, would Santi even be playing centrally if Wilshere/Ramsey hadn't got injured?

How do you know you wouldn't be higher had he resigned Cesc?

Would Coq be here if Arteta wasn't injured?

Exactly.

Our form looks better as a team as soon as wilshere got injured.

I've never blamed Wenger for not signing Cesc. It was a perfectly rational decision. I just regretted that we couldn't get a player who would improve any team in England. It's been the more painful watching him succeed at Chelsea.

yeah I wanted cesc not because he was a signing we desperately needed but because a) he was a nailed on assist making machine

b) to spite Chelsea.

Then you have to ask the question, would Santi even be playing centrally if Wilshere/Ramsey hadn't got injured?
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quite a few things have happened this season that to the naked eye may have appeared to be terrible things but have since allowed this team to grow.

Bellerin has developed as a result of Debuchys injury
Monreal has become a better full back after his stint at CB, Le Coq has got his opportunity due to Arteta's long term injury. Arterta is actually an important player in this arsenal team but actually slows our play down a bit. Le Coq quickens things a bit.

Wilsheres and Ozils injury meant Santi got to play centrally and deeper and the results have been outstanding.

I still think it was the right decision to give Wilshere and Ramsey the opportunities at the beginning of the season, after all Wilshere was actually one of our better players but we seem to have stumbled across something that works better and I hope Jack will eventually get another opportunity.

I actually hope we buy Reus even if it will give Wenger selection headaches. I still think he will need a full season to recover fully from injury and adjust to the league. It means Theo will have to work harder but for 20 million we must buy him.

Well, I've sat in the North Bank for years now, & Fabregas is the best playmaker I've ever seen grace the Grove - so I maintain that amongst Wenger's other summer cQck-ups not re-signing Cesc was clearly another one.

http://www.ja606.co.uk/comments/viewAllComments/275765

When will you be writing your 'Godfather was right' article.

You can make it the first of a multiple part series of articles

The mistake wasn't not resigning him. It was letting him go to Chelsea. If he was being linked with Bayern, PSG etc I'm sure a lot of us would have been happy for him

We could not buy him to stop Chelsea getting him. That would have been silly. He was Barcelona's to sell.

I already admitted to being wrong, people know how unhappy I was at us sitting back and watching Chelsea sign him.

Forget the form of Santi . Cesc broke Arsene's heart.
A bigger traitor that the Dutch skunk. Never want to see him donning our stripe again.

Surely if we had signed Cesc it would have been Ramsey he would have replaced in the team, not Santi.

Not resigning Cesc was a huge mistake, and will remain so.
This whole idea that because we are on a good run we have no need for of world class players is daft.
Imagine where we would have been with Cesc in the team during the long injuries? How many more points would be on right now? How many points less would Chelsea be on, right now?
Accepting a nice run of form and 5th place based on 'luck' as you yourself describe it, is damning with feint praise.

comment by Tyke (U9181)
posted 13 minutes ago
Not resigning Cesc was a huge mistake, and will remain so.
This whole idea that because we are on a good run we have no need for of world class players is daft.
Imagine where we would have been with Cesc in the team during the long injuries? How many more points would be on right now? How many points less would Chelsea be on, right now?
Accepting a nice run of form and 5th place based on 'luck' as you yourself describe it, is damning with feint praise.
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Cesc in our team would probably have gotten injured as well.

Heck he's injured right now in a Chelsea side who's fitness/medical team clearly know what they're doing.

This I the first time hes been injured for Chelsea. Hell he will probably be bk playing for them in a week or 2 max.

Not resigning Cesc was a huge mistake, and will remain so.
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I agree with you on that Tyke. If you have the first choice opportunity to get a player back like Cesc you shouldnt fack this up.

I disagree with the OP on the assumption that all has to do with Cazorla regaining form.

We finally have some important players back that include Giroud, Ramsey, of course Kos, and now Theo and Mesut. Alexis carried us a bit through bad patches when we had so many injuries. Without him we would have found ourselve in midfield of the table.

At the moment we look very good as Wenger found out what a solid, diciplined player like Coq can bring to the team.

Long may it last.

I too agree it was a big mistake not resigning Fabregas. yes, other players have stepped up to the plate but we have suffered horribly in the first half of the season and who is to say Santi would not have shone anyway - he didn't have an immensely good start to the season, nor has Ramsey or Rosicky.
There is such a thing as too much of a good thing.

If we got Cesc we wouldn't have got Alexis.
Think we got the player we needed more.

Doubt Cesc would have made a huge difference, tbf.