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Surely, LvG philosophy must be laid to bare✏️✏️✏️✏️
This time it's different, they have lost their philosophy in some Afro up top.
If you watched Swansea game you especially 30 mins on you will have seen Swansea camped in there own box for most of the box game throwing bodies on the line. Our performance against Swansea was a lot better then against PNE or Burnley but we forgot how to score.
Arsenal played far worse yesterday but won. Arsenal i they keep playing like they are will get knocked out to Monaco.
I have heard all this before and the best we have managed is a draw. On paper we are better but it never works like that with UTD.
However the good thing for us is that confidence is high and Giroud is a different beast!
Man utd side is better on paper.
Hafi have Man Utd deserved to lose any game this season?
Your honest opinion please!!!
comment by HUNTING FOR GLORY (U16317)
posted 1 minute ago
Hafi have Man Utd deserved to lose any game this season?
Your honest opinion please!!!
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The timeframe in that question is far too restrictive.
I would suggest one of:
a) this decade
b) this century
c) ever
We deserved to beat Leicester away Swansea home and away. Southampton home and Man city away we could easily have got draws in.
You didnt answer the question Hafi
Unless you're suggesting you dont think Utd have deserved to lose any game this season, MK dons maybe?!?!
I still don't have much confidence in beating United, there just seems to be something psychological about them that affects our team.
Hopefully we can overcome that this season.
MK dons 2nd half we had enough chances to score 5 goals. I think we deserved to lose to Arsenal away and Liverpool home.
I suppose we won 3 six pointers that we could easily have lost against direct top 4 rivals but some of the games we dropped points in is amazing.
Wow Hafi im genuinely surprised by your admission, i used to think u were senile
But like you admitted you've won some games u should have lost and lost some that you should have won. So it kinda of balances itself out
That's what makes football so popular.
Think about your last 2 Champs lge final victories over Bayern and Chelsea, based on your performances on the night did you really deserve to win? Probably not
But the simple fact however is that you won & thats what matters at the end of the day
Thats the thing we have drawn a lot of games we should have won this season like Burnley away 2 more clear pen shouts then we got at home. Sunderland away to clear pen shout. Last min at home to Swansea clear pen shout you will ever see for handball save.
West brom away Villa away Spurs away Leicester away games we really should have won easily in terms of domination. We have dropped far more points dominating games then we have gained by lucky wins. Even stoke away RVP had 2 unbelievable chances to win it in a game of few chances but just missed twice. People some reason think we are lucky yet about 80% of games this season we haven't won we deserved to win comfortably. They just point to about 30% of our wins as like we are a lucky side.
"If Arsenal don't win by five clear goals against this mediocre United team with a big Afro as their target man, then we should just call ourselves right d1(cks."
couldn't agree more
What u dont seem to understand Hafi is as you say
"80% of games this season we haven't won we deserved to win comfortably"
That tells you that you didnt deserve to win.
Its not a coincidence, why cant you grasp it?
You cant keep saying we were unlucky, why dont you try thinking outside of the box, maybe you just arent that good
Think about your last 2 Champs lge final victories over Bayern and Chelsea, based on your performances on the night did you really deserve to win? Probably not
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Hafi?
Yeah we did we actually battered Bayern Munich last 20 minutes. Chelsea were lucky it was 1-1 instead of 3-0 at HT. Giggs also should have scored but mis hit shot and Terry cleared off line.
I actually got full game with ITV commentray and rewatched last 20 minutes and Man utd layed siege on Bayern Munich goal. We had more possession more shots on target more corners in a game we were supposedly lucky in with our 2nd choice midfield. If we were so lucky why were we top scorers in CL that year and never lost a game including the 3 games against Bayern Munich that season.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_UEFA_Champions_League_Final
Statistic Manchester United Bayern Munich
Goals scored 2 1
Total shots 15 15
Shots on target 9 7
Ball possession 53% 47%
Corner kicks 12 7
Fouls committed 11 10
Offsides 6 8
Yellow cards 0 1
Red cards 0 0
Yeah Man utd really lucky We also had chances that we missed the ball from 6yds out.
Theres a reason why Man utd never lost a game in 98-99 and 07-08 CL as we had a really good side. Man utd should have wrapped up the game by HT.
I think Chelsea had about 15 shots from 30-40yds out nowhere near the goal that game as they were kept at arms length hence the 14 shots 1 on target 2nd half in CL final. Shooting on site is not dominating hence why we created clearest chances.
We won 5 games in a row in knockout stage keeping clean sheets to reach CL final in 2008. That ain't luck. Conceding 1 goal in 6 knockout round games against Lyon Roma Barcelona is pretty impressive stuff and the goal we conceded against Chelsea was a comedy goal. We were the best team in europe that season.
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posted on 22/2/15
Surely, LvG philosophy must be laid to bare✏️✏️✏️✏️
posted on 22/2/15
This time it's different, they have lost their philosophy in some Afro up top.
posted on 22/2/15
If you watched Swansea game you especially 30 mins on you will have seen Swansea camped in there own box for most of the box game throwing bodies on the line. Our performance against Swansea was a lot better then against PNE or Burnley but we forgot how to score.
Arsenal played far worse yesterday but won. Arsenal i they keep playing like they are will get knocked out to Monaco.
posted on 22/2/15
I have heard all this before and the best we have managed is a draw. On paper we are better but it never works like that with UTD.
However the good thing for us is that confidence is high and Giroud is a different beast!
posted on 22/2/15
Man utd side is better on paper.
posted on 22/2/15
Hafi have Man Utd deserved to lose any game this season?
Your honest opinion please!!!
posted on 22/2/15
comment by HUNTING FOR GLORY (U16317)
posted 1 minute ago
Hafi have Man Utd deserved to lose any game this season?
Your honest opinion please!!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The timeframe in that question is far too restrictive.
I would suggest one of:
a) this decade
b) this century
c) ever
posted on 22/2/15
We deserved to beat Leicester away Swansea home and away. Southampton home and Man city away we could easily have got draws in.
posted on 22/2/15
posted on 22/2/15
You didnt answer the question Hafi
Unless you're suggesting you dont think Utd have deserved to lose any game this season, MK dons maybe?!?!
posted on 22/2/15
I still don't have much confidence in beating United, there just seems to be something psychological about them that affects our team.
Hopefully we can overcome that this season.
posted on 22/2/15
MK dons 2nd half we had enough chances to score 5 goals. I think we deserved to lose to Arsenal away and Liverpool home.
posted on 22/2/15
Even Southampton away.
posted on 22/2/15
I suppose we won 3 six pointers that we could easily have lost against direct top 4 rivals but some of the games we dropped points in is amazing.
posted on 22/2/15
Wow Hafi im genuinely surprised by your admission, i used to think u were senile
But like you admitted you've won some games u should have lost and lost some that you should have won. So it kinda of balances itself out
That's what makes football so popular.
Think about your last 2 Champs lge final victories over Bayern and Chelsea, based on your performances on the night did you really deserve to win? Probably not
But the simple fact however is that you won & thats what matters at the end of the day
posted on 22/2/15
Thats the thing we have drawn a lot of games we should have won this season like Burnley away 2 more clear pen shouts then we got at home. Sunderland away to clear pen shout. Last min at home to Swansea clear pen shout you will ever see for handball save.
West brom away Villa away Spurs away Leicester away games we really should have won easily in terms of domination. We have dropped far more points dominating games then we have gained by lucky wins. Even stoke away RVP had 2 unbelievable chances to win it in a game of few chances but just missed twice. People some reason think we are lucky yet about 80% of games this season we haven't won we deserved to win comfortably. They just point to about 30% of our wins as like we are a lucky side.
posted on 22/2/15
"If Arsenal don't win by five clear goals against this mediocre United team with a big Afro as their target man, then we should just call ourselves right d1(cks."
couldn't agree more
posted on 22/2/15
What u dont seem to understand Hafi is as you say
"80% of games this season we haven't won we deserved to win comfortably"
That tells you that you didnt deserve to win.
Its not a coincidence, why cant you grasp it?
You cant keep saying we were unlucky, why dont you try thinking outside of the box, maybe you just arent that good
posted on 22/2/15
Think about your last 2 Champs lge final victories over Bayern and Chelsea, based on your performances on the night did you really deserve to win? Probably not
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Hafi?
posted on 22/2/15
Yeah we did we actually battered Bayern Munich last 20 minutes. Chelsea were lucky it was 1-1 instead of 3-0 at HT. Giggs also should have scored but mis hit shot and Terry cleared off line.
I actually got full game with ITV commentray and rewatched last 20 minutes and Man utd layed siege on Bayern Munich goal. We had more possession more shots on target more corners in a game we were supposedly lucky in with our 2nd choice midfield. If we were so lucky why were we top scorers in CL that year and never lost a game including the 3 games against Bayern Munich that season.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_UEFA_Champions_League_Final
posted on 22/2/15
Statistic Manchester United Bayern Munich
Goals scored 2 1
Total shots 15 15
Shots on target 9 7
Ball possession 53% 47%
Corner kicks 12 7
Fouls committed 11 10
Offsides 6 8
Yellow cards 0 1
Red cards 0 0
Yeah Man utd really lucky We also had chances that we missed the ball from 6yds out.
posted on 22/2/15
Theres a reason why Man utd never lost a game in 98-99 and 07-08 CL as we had a really good side. Man utd should have wrapped up the game by HT.
I think Chelsea had about 15 shots from 30-40yds out nowhere near the goal that game as they were kept at arms length hence the 14 shots 1 on target 2nd half in CL final. Shooting on site is not dominating hence why we created clearest chances.
posted on 22/2/15
We won 5 games in a row in knockout stage keeping clean sheets to reach CL final in 2008. That ain't luck. Conceding 1 goal in 6 knockout round games against Lyon Roma Barcelona is pretty impressive stuff and the goal we conceded against Chelsea was a comedy goal. We were the best team in europe that season.
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