We don't win penalties because our build up is stagnant. Not saying it's right but refs tend to give them when things happen fast.

comment by tgi fry ★ (U9236)
posted 11 seconds ago
We don't win penalties because our build up is stagnant. Not saying it's right but refs tend to give them when things happen fast.
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Is this an excuse for getting denied penalties? If so its an awful one.

Ivanovic's theatrics convinced the ref it wasn't a penalty

He has himself to blame

Cracking player though. Been a big fan of him for ages.

Wasn't impressed with their peno decision but at this stage the pressure is on us to deliver

comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by tgi fry ★ (U9236)
posted 11 seconds ago
We don't win penalties because our build up is stagnant. Not saying it's right but refs tend to give them when things happen fast.
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Is this an excuse for getting denied penalties? If so its an awful one.
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It is what it is.

We shouldn't have to rely on getting pens to win games, especially at home. Score from open play ffs.

comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 3 seconds ago
We shouldn't have to rely on getting pens to win games, especially at home. Score from open play ffs.
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We also shouldnt be denied a fair reffing display which would include being allowed penalties from fouls. Draw was the right result on performance today. But pens change games dont they?

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We also shouldnt be denied a fair reffing display which would include being allowed penalties from fouls. Draw was the right result on performance today. But pens change games dont they?

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comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 3 seconds ago
We shouldn't have to rely on getting pens to win games, especially at home. Score from open play ffs.
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We also shouldnt be denied a fair reffing display which would include being allowed penalties from fouls. Draw was the right result on performance today. But pens change games dont they?
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Yeah, but we shouldn't be relying on getting pens. Why can't we score from open play recently?

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Easy to blame theatrics on this occasion but we've been incorrectly denied pens on quite a few occasions now (as have other team).

Not a conspiracy theorist but the standard of refereeing has to improve.

comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 3 seconds ago
We shouldn't have to rely on getting pens to win games, especially at home. Score from open play ffs.
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We also shouldnt be denied a fair reffing display which would include being allowed penalties from fouls. Draw was the right result on performance today. But pens change games dont they?
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Yeah, but we shouldn't be relying on getting pens. Why can't we score from open play recently?
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We arent exactly relying on them if we never get them.

Matic could've gone but it was also the sort of challenge a lot of players on yellow cards get off with once.

Goners growing balls. Never seen half of these people before this weekend

Every game we drop points we complain about not getting pens. Why not complain about the fact that we're not scoring enough goals from open play? Our build up play is slow. That's an issue which is in our control that we need to sort out.

comment by Torres+Azpi-The Spanish Duo. (U10322)
posted 12 seconds ago
Every game we drop points we complain about not getting pens. Why not complain about the fact that we're not scoring enough goals from open play? Our build up play is slow. That's an issue which is in our control that we need to sort out.
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Wrong we complain when we are denied every time.

I am upset about our play. We've been rubbish in 2015.
I am also upset about some rubbish refereeing.

But RtM, we can't control what the refs do.

So many players are out of form now, it's ridiculous. Our actual performances need to improve.

Our play has been talked about to death. I dont think anyone has avoided talking about our lack of free flowing attacking play or bare minimum creativity. Thats something we have to fix ourselves though. Being denied pens is not our doing.

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Yeah, exactly. I'm disappointed that we're not getting pens, but we should be playing better than we have been. That's something which needs to change.