He did say he wanted to play for a big club someday...
Again Robb just putting up stats means nothing, Lacazette is a far better all round player, you've obviously not watched Lacazette otherwise you'd be telling us why Lukaku is better rather than just showing us stats
Dybala is very good Dunk, he's a bit erratic in games but he's capable of genius and winning matches on his own, he's a little like Di Maria, some of the time you're not sure if he knows what he's doing, but he'll then pull off something and you'll go Wow!
41 goals came in one of the shíttiest leagues in Europe and he failed to score in 15 games for chelsea.
comment by Robb - Down on the West Coast, they got a saying, if you're not drinking then you ain't playing. (U20351)
posted 6 minutes ago
Lukaku has done it in the PL and is a great prospect. It's bizarre we have people who would choose Lacazette over him.
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I really think that you are overlooking Lukaku's style of play and lack of technical ability.
Playing Lukaku encourages the long ball, and when you try to keep the ball you down get enough movement from him, as seen all season with Everton.
He will be a bench warmer to Rooney
comment by Mex. (U6687)
posted 54 seconds ago
Again Robb just putting up stats means nothing, Lacazette is a far better all round player, you've obviously not watched Lacazette otherwise you'd be telling us why Lukaku is better rather than just showing us stats
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Some stats are telling. Like for example goals scored by strikers. Lukaku has proven himself in a better league than the French one.
Since 2012 only Aguero, Suarez and RVP have scored more PL goals.
That has to count for something. Lacazette may well be better at some things than Lukaku but my problem with what you're saying here is down to how you're so dismissive of Lukaku. He's not some James Beattie wannabe. The guy has great talent and can only get better.
Maybe Lacazette will be well known as the better player in 10 years once both have had their day in the sun. But to dismiss Lukaku now is stupid. Especially as he's got a very very good PL scoring record.
Lukaku would be a a great buy for any top club.
Big deal if he gets stick off the Everton fans - it's mostly because they rely on him to produce the goods so on bad days, the fingers are pointed at him.
You don't have to play long balls to Lukaku at all, most have been saying that you just need to put the ball in front for him to run onto, like with a through ball. People often just think that because he's big he's probably good with his back to goal when he isn't really.
Heard lots of good things about Lacazette, but he's 2 years older than Lukaku and seems to have achieved far less. Looking at his stats (I know) this is clearly his best season in a far inferior league to the PL.
Stats don't tell the whole story do they rob? Look how much Bayern Munich improved when they switched out Mario Gomez (probably the best Goalscorer in Europe at the time) with Mario Mandzukic, a player who fitted into the system much better, a player who would run for 90 minutes and press and Harry while still carrying a goal threat, a player who would do the hard yards allowing Bayern to dominate and defend from the front like never before
You’d be mad to sing Lukaku, he has got the redeeming feature of being able to score a few, which granted is the primary role of a striker but at a top club that isn’t enough.
I find it strange when people look to draw comparisons with the likes of Drogba who showed no signs of becoming the player he did at 21, so what? There will always be a handful of players who do that but why would you point to him as an example of what may happen to Lukaku, it would make as much sense to use the example of Adu or the hundreds of Championship players who had a heavy touch at 21 and still did at 27. It is the same as using Giggs as an example of playing till when ever, so what? How is one player who played on relevant to the rest?
As I said he can score which is why he can make it at a club like Everton and yes he does have age on his side so no doubt he’ll cave out a half decent career for himself but he is miles off the standard where United want to be.
A lot of Chelsea fans felt he wasn’t given a fair chance but I was delighted when we sold him and pulled Everton’s pants down over the price. I just remember him in a game for us where there was a break on, he had the ball in the opponents half to the left of centre, a defender on the edge of the box and a team mate to his right making a forward run in an acre of space, it looked a certain goal with the man over in the perfect position. Lukaku just needed to slide a basic pass in, he had a massive margin of error in both terms of accuracy and pace as it was an old pro let Eto’o making the run. Lukaku slid the ball with literally about half the weight it needed, it would just about make the spot where the man over was at the time he saw the pass, it was so, so bad and although one example this was the kidn of thing he does quite often. He just isn’t a proper footballer imo.
When he receives the ball or makes a pass he needs to fully concentrate, it just doesn’t come naturally to him.
Mex
I don't watch Ligue 1, how was Lacazette before this season? He'll be 24 by the end of the season, hardly that young.
Well lvg has said he likes pace up front and no doubt likes strength hence his use of Fellaini up front at times. So I'm sure Fellaini could be used in lvgs system with a few small tweaks to his all round play.
Mex
But surely you can appreciate a player like Lukaku brings far more to a team than someone like Gomez.
Lacazette scored 22 last season, which was the first season he'd played as a striker, he'd been a winger/ inside forward before that
I really don't see the fuss with Lukaku MU82, he has no brain whatsoever, yes he's big and powerful and has good pace, but I want a more rounded player, someone who can contribute in the build up, it'd be like playing with a tall Hernandez if we signed Lukaku, and he's lazy as fack
Mex
I see, like I say not seen anything of the lad but heard good things. Obviously all players develop at different stages of their career. Guess people will always be sceptical of a players ability when they play in lesser leagues.
I personally think Lukaku is a good player who will likely improve. Not necessarily the type of striker I want though.
I'm not saying Lukaku is a bad player, but he is no way shape or form ever going to be a world class Centre forward IMO
I dunno, I think he works for the team, not the most naturally gifted or fastest but when you feed him he does pretty well and also does his bit for the team. He is only 21, plenty of time to continue developing his game through experience.
It's easy to get critical of Lukaku but he's only 21. If United had a youth product at age 21 who'd scored more PL goals than anyone bar the 3 best strikers of the past 3 years there would be people on here raving about him asking for more time to be given to him to be a complete player.
I'm just curious as to why people think Lukaku can't get any better now he's hit 21
I'm not saying he can't get better, I'm saying he'll never reach the level we require, or the level I require when thinking of a United CF
That's the thing, just because he developed physically very early doesn't mean other parts of his game are fully developed. He will learn plenty over the next decade as a striker and likely improve.
Mex
I just think that's a bit premature to say, a lot can happen to a 21 year old. If he's fully dedicated to improving himself then I think he has a good chance of becoming a lot better.
He seems like someone willing to learn.
Mex, you're being far too dismissive while at the same time being too certain a player who has only ever known ligue 1 will be world class
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posted on 17/3/15
He did say he wanted to play for a big club someday...
posted on 17/3/15
Again Robb just putting up stats means nothing, Lacazette is a far better all round player, you've obviously not watched Lacazette otherwise you'd be telling us why Lukaku is better rather than just showing us stats
posted on 17/3/15
Dybala is very good Dunk, he's a bit erratic in games but he's capable of genius and winning matches on his own, he's a little like Di Maria, some of the time you're not sure if he knows what he's doing, but he'll then pull off something and you'll go Wow!
posted on 17/3/15
41 goals came in one of the shíttiest leagues in Europe and he failed to score in 15 games for chelsea.
posted on 17/3/15
comment by Robb - Down on the West Coast, they got a saying, if you're not drinking then you ain't playing. (U20351)
posted 6 minutes ago
Lukaku has done it in the PL and is a great prospect. It's bizarre we have people who would choose Lacazette over him.
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I really think that you are overlooking Lukaku's style of play and lack of technical ability.
Playing Lukaku encourages the long ball, and when you try to keep the ball you down get enough movement from him, as seen all season with Everton.
posted on 17/3/15
He will be a bench warmer to Rooney
posted on 17/3/15
comment by Mex. (U6687)
posted 54 seconds ago
Again Robb just putting up stats means nothing, Lacazette is a far better all round player, you've obviously not watched Lacazette otherwise you'd be telling us why Lukaku is better rather than just showing us stats
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Some stats are telling. Like for example goals scored by strikers. Lukaku has proven himself in a better league than the French one.
Since 2012 only Aguero, Suarez and RVP have scored more PL goals.
That has to count for something. Lacazette may well be better at some things than Lukaku but my problem with what you're saying here is down to how you're so dismissive of Lukaku. He's not some James Beattie wannabe. The guy has great talent and can only get better.
Maybe Lacazette will be well known as the better player in 10 years once both have had their day in the sun. But to dismiss Lukaku now is stupid. Especially as he's got a very very good PL scoring record.
posted on 17/3/15
Lukaku would be a a great buy for any top club.
Big deal if he gets stick off the Everton fans - it's mostly because they rely on him to produce the goods so on bad days, the fingers are pointed at him.
posted on 17/3/15
You don't have to play long balls to Lukaku at all, most have been saying that you just need to put the ball in front for him to run onto, like with a through ball. People often just think that because he's big he's probably good with his back to goal when he isn't really.
Heard lots of good things about Lacazette, but he's 2 years older than Lukaku and seems to have achieved far less. Looking at his stats (I know) this is clearly his best season in a far inferior league to the PL.
posted on 17/3/15
Stats don't tell the whole story do they rob? Look how much Bayern Munich improved when they switched out Mario Gomez (probably the best Goalscorer in Europe at the time) with Mario Mandzukic, a player who fitted into the system much better, a player who would run for 90 minutes and press and Harry while still carrying a goal threat, a player who would do the hard yards allowing Bayern to dominate and defend from the front like never before
posted on 17/3/15
You’d be mad to sing Lukaku, he has got the redeeming feature of being able to score a few, which granted is the primary role of a striker but at a top club that isn’t enough.
I find it strange when people look to draw comparisons with the likes of Drogba who showed no signs of becoming the player he did at 21, so what? There will always be a handful of players who do that but why would you point to him as an example of what may happen to Lukaku, it would make as much sense to use the example of Adu or the hundreds of Championship players who had a heavy touch at 21 and still did at 27. It is the same as using Giggs as an example of playing till when ever, so what? How is one player who played on relevant to the rest?
As I said he can score which is why he can make it at a club like Everton and yes he does have age on his side so no doubt he’ll cave out a half decent career for himself but he is miles off the standard where United want to be.
A lot of Chelsea fans felt he wasn’t given a fair chance but I was delighted when we sold him and pulled Everton’s pants down over the price. I just remember him in a game for us where there was a break on, he had the ball in the opponents half to the left of centre, a defender on the edge of the box and a team mate to his right making a forward run in an acre of space, it looked a certain goal with the man over in the perfect position. Lukaku just needed to slide a basic pass in, he had a massive margin of error in both terms of accuracy and pace as it was an old pro let Eto’o making the run. Lukaku slid the ball with literally about half the weight it needed, it would just about make the spot where the man over was at the time he saw the pass, it was so, so bad and although one example this was the kidn of thing he does quite often. He just isn’t a proper footballer imo.
When he receives the ball or makes a pass he needs to fully concentrate, it just doesn’t come naturally to him.
posted on 17/3/15
Mex
I don't watch Ligue 1, how was Lacazette before this season? He'll be 24 by the end of the season, hardly that young.
posted on 17/3/15
What Droog said
posted on 17/3/15
Well lvg has said he likes pace up front and no doubt likes strength hence his use of Fellaini up front at times. So I'm sure Fellaini could be used in lvgs system with a few small tweaks to his all round play.
posted on 17/3/15
Mex
But surely you can appreciate a player like Lukaku brings far more to a team than someone like Gomez.
posted on 17/3/15
Lacazette scored 22 last season, which was the first season he'd played as a striker, he'd been a winger/ inside forward before that
posted on 17/3/15
I really don't see the fuss with Lukaku MU82, he has no brain whatsoever, yes he's big and powerful and has good pace, but I want a more rounded player, someone who can contribute in the build up, it'd be like playing with a tall Hernandez if we signed Lukaku, and he's lazy as fack
posted on 17/3/15
Mex
I see, like I say not seen anything of the lad but heard good things. Obviously all players develop at different stages of their career. Guess people will always be sceptical of a players ability when they play in lesser leagues.
I personally think Lukaku is a good player who will likely improve. Not necessarily the type of striker I want though.
posted on 17/3/15
I'm not saying Lukaku is a bad player, but he is no way shape or form ever going to be a world class Centre forward IMO
posted on 17/3/15
I dunno, I think he works for the team, not the most naturally gifted or fastest but when you feed him he does pretty well and also does his bit for the team. He is only 21, plenty of time to continue developing his game through experience.
posted on 17/3/15
It's easy to get critical of Lukaku but he's only 21. If United had a youth product at age 21 who'd scored more PL goals than anyone bar the 3 best strikers of the past 3 years there would be people on here raving about him asking for more time to be given to him to be a complete player.
I'm just curious as to why people think Lukaku can't get any better now he's hit 21
posted on 17/3/15
I'm not saying he can't get better, I'm saying he'll never reach the level we require, or the level I require when thinking of a United CF
posted on 17/3/15
That's the thing, just because he developed physically very early doesn't mean other parts of his game are fully developed. He will learn plenty over the next decade as a striker and likely improve.
posted on 17/3/15
Mex
I just think that's a bit premature to say, a lot can happen to a 21 year old. If he's fully dedicated to improving himself then I think he has a good chance of becoming a lot better.
He seems like someone willing to learn.
posted on 17/3/15
Mex, you're being far too dismissive while at the same time being too certain a player who has only ever known ligue 1 will be world class
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