All of which begs the question "why is he still here"?
The owners have let the club down big time this season through their inability to see what is best for the club.
I get the impression that this fellow doesn't like Pearson very much.
Regardless of anyones opinion of Pearson, he has made himself incredibly hard to like.
Spot on.... All bark and no bite! Hope he has read it.
Bear in mind Darren Lewis is a Spurs fan as well........
Is this Albrighton's missus?
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I've consigned myself to relegation and have given up on this seseason-which almost certainly means we'll win tomo!
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I've heard Darren Lewis on talkSport. He's a good guy and always a good listen. He's one of the few journalists who always sounds personable.
Aside from the criticism of Pearson, he's also spot on RE the similarities with Southampton. If Southampton had done the 'reasonable' thing and given Adkins the whole season, as those who have wanted Leicester to do with Pearson, they'd probably be in the Championship now. Instead, they're a stable, growing club who are probably going to be in Europe next season.
Two clubs, of similar sizes - one did the ruthless, unpopular thing. The other did the compassionate, popular thing. One will be in the Premier League next season, the other won't be.
I'm intrigued by the 'Fiddling while Rome burns' reference in the article, because while there are obvious similarities over their alleged despotic behaviour, there are also significant differences between NP and Nero.
For example Nero, unlike NP, expended much energy on diplomacy.
Nero also had christians dipped in oil and set alight, to illuminate his garden at night – whereas NP uses journalists and egocentric players he's fallen out with.
Southampton's recruitment team should certainly be applauded as each new manager they've hired has improved their squad. That can happen when you hire a new manager. But there are examples every way for that. Norwich sacked Chris Hughton and got relegated, while Fulham sacked two managers and went down. Meanwhile Hull kept Steve Bruce and stayed up (I'm not a fan of Steve Bruce, but even so). That was just last season.
The argument about what should have been done with Nigel Pearson is a lot stronger for what's happened since the turn of the year. The failure to take advantage of an upturn in form and the continuation of our miserable record count against him massively and suggest now that we should have given him the chop back in November. But back then, he had a record of success and pundits widely agreed that we just needed some luck to get moving again. So sometimes these things work for you, sometimes they don't. If we found ourselves in the same situation again, frankly I'd make the same decisions. And chaos theory demonstrates that, actually, you could get wildly different results. Just recall what happened in Martin O'Neill's first year for that.
Darren Lewis is a spurs fan but he's also an experienced journalist. He won't be forming an opinion on Pearson based solely on the fact we knocked Spurs out the cup.
What he says is spot on in my opinion and the Southampton examples Foxello provides shows how ruthless a club must be to survive and grow at this level.
Pearsons constant tinkering, his refusal to accept certain players aren't good enough, his continual selection of Morgan and bizarre behaviour should have concerned the owners enough to do something long ago.
As brilliant as our owners are and we are lucky to have them, they have at time been rabbits in the headlights this season and they desperately need someone credible like Paul Faulkner as CEO to advise them.
Dunge it's really not as random as you are suggesting. We're not playing snakes and ladders here and football works the same as any other business.
You get someone in a CEO or advisory position to run the day to day and make managerial appointments. Sensible clubs get football people in with good business acumen.
You then appoint a manager with a track record, otherwise it's accepted you take a risk. When things are not working out, you analyse a number of things. What are the performances like? Is there a gradual improvement in results? What is the manager doing to address the situation? Are the players good enough and if not did the manager and DoF do their jobs properly?
Southampton are an example of a club who works through that decision making process that businesses do when hiring and firing a manager. Wolves and Norwich are examples of clubs who don't or who leave it too late. It's not random. It's not like a roll of the dice, yes there will always be risk, but it's calculated risk.
All you are doing by referencing Southampton and Norwich is highlighting the clubs who have done their due diligence well from those that haven't.
And I would say we haven't by the way, by deciding that it was transfer policy that was letting us down rather than anything to do with tactics and approach
Ex Arsenal man Paul Merson has predicted us to win at Spurs....
Paul Merson has been saying he thinks we will stay up for weeks although he sounded less than enthusiastic after Hull. He's been quite impressed by us
I'm not suggesting it's as random as a dice roll. I remember there being a series of meetings at the club back in November to discuss its plight, and the topic of whether they had the right man in charge doubtless came up then. They decided they did. What I'm saying is that there's plenty of evidence they could go on back then which didn't amount to just blind faith. Some people would have you believe that it was blatantly obvious to anone with an ounce of common sense (I feel like I'm turning into John Gee here) that Pearson should have gone at that point. I'm saying that wasn't necessarily the case, that nothing was proven either way - that it wasn't black and white. If you held the opinion back then that Pearson should go - and to be fair I do remember you suggesting as such, BlackStarr - then that's fine and you were ultimately right; but an opinion is all it was.
He has actually BS iv noticed that. I guess we haven't been out of many games and if hes watched certain performances you would be a bit confused by our position.
To me it was obvious but of course it was in my opinion. I accept others, including the owners taking a different view. But doesn't the dithering over whether to fire him or not in February indicate to you that the owners perhaps don't really know which way to turn for the best?
It hardly smacks of owners who have a clear sense of what needs to be done to keep this club in the premier league. That's the biggest disappointment for me and why they desperately need proper advice
I'm not surprised about Merson, most outsiders watching us play would wonder why we are bottom, very few poor displays have really let us down.
It could indicate a number of things, although few of them are good reflections of their competence: Confusion, panic, a split in the boardroom. Also, it seems that it either stems from the unravelling of the medium-term plan or a debate over whether Pearson had finally gone too far with the McArthur incident - or both. Either way, it seems that Top had the final word on it, which is a positive.
I'm glad that finished the way it did though: If there's a difference of opinion at that level, I'd always prefer conservatism to win through because there's less chance of catastrophe that way. In this case the catastrophe had already happened and doing the firing then could have jeopardised next season rather than saving this one. For me, the ideal scenario now is that we see out the season, then immediately give Pearson a hearty pat on the back and a wave out of the door in order to give a new manager as long a pre-season as we can. I'd be looking around to sign up a new manager now though, probably drafting together a wish list and doing discreet investigations into availability behind the scenes.
I think most of us could have written that article - possible exception of True Blue, who appears to be clinging to the wreckage.
Villa just needed a new man and are not looking back.....
No one could of done any worse for us!!
The Hull game should of really been his last, can any body even argue about that any more?
If TB had been on the Titanic he would have been trying to convince the passengers the ship was unsinkable and they had nothing to worry about.
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posted on 20/3/15
All of which begs the question "why is he still here"?
The owners have let the club down big time this season through their inability to see what is best for the club.
posted on 20/3/15
You have to agree
posted on 20/3/15
I get the impression that this fellow doesn't like Pearson very much.
posted on 20/3/15
Regardless of anyones opinion of Pearson, he has made himself incredibly hard to like.
posted on 20/3/15
Spot on.... All bark and no bite! Hope he has read it.
posted on 20/3/15
Bear in mind Darren Lewis is a Spurs fan as well........
posted on 20/3/15
Is this Albrighton's missus?
posted on 20/3/15
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posted on 20/3/15
I've consigned myself to relegation and have given up on this seseason-which almost certainly means we'll win tomo!
posted on 20/3/15
ZING
I've heard Darren Lewis on talkSport. He's a good guy and always a good listen. He's one of the few journalists who always sounds personable.
Aside from the criticism of Pearson, he's also spot on RE the similarities with Southampton. If Southampton had done the 'reasonable' thing and given Adkins the whole season, as those who have wanted Leicester to do with Pearson, they'd probably be in the Championship now. Instead, they're a stable, growing club who are probably going to be in Europe next season.
Two clubs, of similar sizes - one did the ruthless, unpopular thing. The other did the compassionate, popular thing. One will be in the Premier League next season, the other won't be.
posted on 20/3/15
I'm intrigued by the 'Fiddling while Rome burns' reference in the article, because while there are obvious similarities over their alleged despotic behaviour, there are also significant differences between NP and Nero.
For example Nero, unlike NP, expended much energy on diplomacy.
Nero also had christians dipped in oil and set alight, to illuminate his garden at night – whereas NP uses journalists and egocentric players he's fallen out with.
posted on 20/3/15
Southampton's recruitment team should certainly be applauded as each new manager they've hired has improved their squad. That can happen when you hire a new manager. But there are examples every way for that. Norwich sacked Chris Hughton and got relegated, while Fulham sacked two managers and went down. Meanwhile Hull kept Steve Bruce and stayed up (I'm not a fan of Steve Bruce, but even so). That was just last season.
The argument about what should have been done with Nigel Pearson is a lot stronger for what's happened since the turn of the year. The failure to take advantage of an upturn in form and the continuation of our miserable record count against him massively and suggest now that we should have given him the chop back in November. But back then, he had a record of success and pundits widely agreed that we just needed some luck to get moving again. So sometimes these things work for you, sometimes they don't. If we found ourselves in the same situation again, frankly I'd make the same decisions. And chaos theory demonstrates that, actually, you could get wildly different results. Just recall what happened in Martin O'Neill's first year for that.
posted on 20/3/15
Darren Lewis is a spurs fan but he's also an experienced journalist. He won't be forming an opinion on Pearson based solely on the fact we knocked Spurs out the cup.
What he says is spot on in my opinion and the Southampton examples Foxello provides shows how ruthless a club must be to survive and grow at this level.
Pearsons constant tinkering, his refusal to accept certain players aren't good enough, his continual selection of Morgan and bizarre behaviour should have concerned the owners enough to do something long ago.
As brilliant as our owners are and we are lucky to have them, they have at time been rabbits in the headlights this season and they desperately need someone credible like Paul Faulkner as CEO to advise them.
posted on 20/3/15
Dunge it's really not as random as you are suggesting. We're not playing snakes and ladders here and football works the same as any other business.
You get someone in a CEO or advisory position to run the day to day and make managerial appointments. Sensible clubs get football people in with good business acumen.
You then appoint a manager with a track record, otherwise it's accepted you take a risk. When things are not working out, you analyse a number of things. What are the performances like? Is there a gradual improvement in results? What is the manager doing to address the situation? Are the players good enough and if not did the manager and DoF do their jobs properly?
Southampton are an example of a club who works through that decision making process that businesses do when hiring and firing a manager. Wolves and Norwich are examples of clubs who don't or who leave it too late. It's not random. It's not like a roll of the dice, yes there will always be risk, but it's calculated risk.
All you are doing by referencing Southampton and Norwich is highlighting the clubs who have done their due diligence well from those that haven't.
posted on 20/3/15
And I would say we haven't by the way, by deciding that it was transfer policy that was letting us down rather than anything to do with tactics and approach
posted on 20/3/15
Ex Arsenal man Paul Merson has predicted us to win at Spurs....
posted on 20/3/15
Paul Merson has been saying he thinks we will stay up for weeks although he sounded less than enthusiastic after Hull. He's been quite impressed by us
posted on 20/3/15
I'm not suggesting it's as random as a dice roll. I remember there being a series of meetings at the club back in November to discuss its plight, and the topic of whether they had the right man in charge doubtless came up then. They decided they did. What I'm saying is that there's plenty of evidence they could go on back then which didn't amount to just blind faith. Some people would have you believe that it was blatantly obvious to anone with an ounce of common sense (I feel like I'm turning into John Gee here) that Pearson should have gone at that point. I'm saying that wasn't necessarily the case, that nothing was proven either way - that it wasn't black and white. If you held the opinion back then that Pearson should go - and to be fair I do remember you suggesting as such, BlackStarr - then that's fine and you were ultimately right; but an opinion is all it was.
posted on 20/3/15
He has actually BS iv noticed that. I guess we haven't been out of many games and if hes watched certain performances you would be a bit confused by our position.
posted on 20/3/15
To me it was obvious but of course it was in my opinion. I accept others, including the owners taking a different view. But doesn't the dithering over whether to fire him or not in February indicate to you that the owners perhaps don't really know which way to turn for the best?
It hardly smacks of owners who have a clear sense of what needs to be done to keep this club in the premier league. That's the biggest disappointment for me and why they desperately need proper advice
posted on 20/3/15
I'm not surprised about Merson, most outsiders watching us play would wonder why we are bottom, very few poor displays have really let us down.
posted on 20/3/15
It could indicate a number of things, although few of them are good reflections of their competence: Confusion, panic, a split in the boardroom. Also, it seems that it either stems from the unravelling of the medium-term plan or a debate over whether Pearson had finally gone too far with the McArthur incident - or both. Either way, it seems that Top had the final word on it, which is a positive.
I'm glad that finished the way it did though: If there's a difference of opinion at that level, I'd always prefer conservatism to win through because there's less chance of catastrophe that way. In this case the catastrophe had already happened and doing the firing then could have jeopardised next season rather than saving this one. For me, the ideal scenario now is that we see out the season, then immediately give Pearson a hearty pat on the back and a wave out of the door in order to give a new manager as long a pre-season as we can. I'd be looking around to sign up a new manager now though, probably drafting together a wish list and doing discreet investigations into availability behind the scenes.
posted on 20/3/15
I think most of us could have written that article - possible exception of True Blue, who appears to be clinging to the wreckage.
posted on 20/3/15
Villa just needed a new man and are not looking back.....
No one could of done any worse for us!!
The Hull game should of really been his last, can any body even argue about that any more?
posted on 20/3/15
If TB had been on the Titanic he would have been trying to convince the passengers the ship was unsinkable and they had nothing to worry about.
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