Jones - Not a 1st teamer and poor back up
Johnson - No need for an explanation
Enrique - Always injured
Lovren - Cut our losses and buy someone else
Lambert - Yes he is local but he never plays
Coates - 3 Managers have not believed in him
Borini - Not good enough for 4th place striker
Dunn - Tries his best but not a top 6 team player
Balotelli - Not good enough fullstop
Aspas - That corner
Alberto - Got talent but not enough for us
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I know its not the popular view on here but Mignolet isn't a top keeper and I think we need to replace.
I'd keep Lovren, still think he will come good for us but agree with the rest. I think all apart from Lovren and Lambert will leave.
Does anyone know how Alberto is doing on his loan spell? He really does seem like the most pointless signing we have made in recent years. A really bad call from the scouting team.
I'm not sure what happened with Borini, I really though he would take a few people by surprise at Liverpool and he'd prove a shrewd purchase.
I remember watching him as a youngster and he always seemed a natural finisher paired with lovely movement.
Will be interesting to see if we cut Manquillos loan short too. With it looking like Johnson is leaving I think we will probably hold onto him for backup but wouldn't rule it out.
I'd give Lovren another year, after what we paid for him give him one more season to prove himself.
I think we will keep Manquillo as an option if we are to play 4 at the back.
Can't argue with the rest of the list, we'd have to buy 2 strikers plus Origi coming in too.
I'd keep Lovren and also Lambert if he's willing to play as much as he's getting at the moment. Borini isn't getting games and is too young to be sitting on the bench. Alberto? Give him a preseason see how he goes. Enrique if he's willing to be back up. Other than that I would sell the rest. We have a massive squad of players.
I'd keep Lovren. He did improve when he covered for Sakho.
Alberto like TOOR said evaluate after preseason.
We should look to get rid of Allen. He's just not good enough. We have been winning inspite of him and the sooner Lucas gets in the side the better.
Kolo contract is to expire in summer too but again he's worth a new rolling contract but hopefully we see Wisdom and Ilori get more chances.
I'd let most of those go I guess. Lovren won't be going anywhere and I still think he will come good for us.
I don't think we will be seeing Wisdom or Ilori in a Liverpool shirt anytime soon either so they may go.
Oh and I think Kolo will go.
comment by (Kash) Mario Balle Balle Balotelli - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 28 minutes ago
I'd keep Lovren. He did improve when he covered for Sakho.
Alberto like TOOR said evaluate after preseason.
We should look to get rid of Allen. He's just not good enough. We have been winning inspite of him and the sooner Lucas gets in the side the better.
Kolo contract is to expire in summer too but again he's worth a new rolling contract but hopefully we see Wisdom and Ilori get more chances.
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We have no cover for Lucas if we get rid of Allen. remember Stevie is leaving this summer. I thought Allen played well in some games. For £10m we are not going to find much better in my opinion.
With players like Song and Schneiderlin available as well as Milner we don't need to waste time with someone average as Allen.
I would keep Lovren for another year to see if he can turn it around.
Allen won't be going anywhere so Kash can clear that wet dream. Funny how Kash was quiet on him for a month before the Utd game.
Other than that pretty much agree.
The likes of Ilori and Wisdom have it all to do as well. Wisdom can't even get in West Brom's team now so his future looks bleak.
Our squad really is extremely bloated.
We could lose the majority of these players without even replacing them.
Allen won't be going anywhere - in fact I reckon they'll give him a new contract in the summer.
I'm not his biggest fan, I feel when the going gets tough he goes missing, but he is the only type of player that we have and can play any of the central midfield positions.
I don't particularly want to find and integrate three new midfielders and that is what we would have to do were Allen to leave.
He always looks in trouble on the ball though! Never looks easy with Joe.
I wasn't particularly quiet and I put some counter arguments over Allen's performance against Man City which were spot on.
There are much better players than Allen out there who are available and not in the radar off the top rich clubs. If we don't get CL the budget in summer will be very small so sales will be needed.
Please forgive my ignorance, but who is Dunn?
Wisdom will leave. He has had a poor season for WBA, and if any manager was going to get him defending well it would have been Pulis. Not good enough I'm afraid, get rid in the summer. Ilori has his work cut out but will get a chance.
Why did Stupendous Sakho aka Ilori get banned again for?
There are much better players than Allen out there who are available and not in the radar off the top rich clubs. If we don't get CL the budget in summer will be very small so sales will be needed.
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This is a spurious statement to say the least.
We have loads of sales as the OP demonstrates.
We don't need to lose more current first team squad members.
Whether you like him or not, the last month has again shown that when he gets a run of games Allen can do a sound job, as I expected he would.
He isn't exciting and at the very highest level he isn't going to influence a game much, but is a good professional, a solid player, homegrown, who won't moan or expect to be starting every game.
You need squad players to fill out a squad.
You go on and on about Song but he is not remotely what we need. He is flaky, isn't a solid holding player and has a questionable mentality. Where has he been since Xmas? He doesn't even have the excuse of not knowing the PL.
Why did Stupendous Sakho aka Ilori get banned again for?
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Did he get banned?
Good.
He gets banned about 3 times a year.
Strange kid.
Team like West Ham no matter who plays for them run out of steam. That's hardly an example when he has proved for Arsenal that he can go the full course of a season. I never said Song was a holding player and neither is Allen but he is good on the ball and a physical presence. In other words an upgrade on Allen.
I might be wrong but being at Arsenal from the age of 17 should qualify him as home grown. Still it doesn't have to be Song.
I've never been quite sold on Song myself but as said I'd rather keep Allen, add to the midfield, then maybe assess again next summer.
He was excellent against City but his end product as well as performance in games that we are up against it leave a lot to be desired.
I've watched quite a bit of Song this season and whilst he had one or two decent games at the start he's been poor, particularly since Christmas. I disagree he is an upgrade on Allen.
Definitely keep Lovren, also Borini and Alberto. OK, he had a poor game against United, but I think it's would be very harsh to dump him. He will learn from his mistakes, he was up against a top class striker in Mata.
ALLEN, for me is a very good player. Maybe not first choice in midfield, but he does get stuck in. Just look how he went about disrupting Yaya in the last game.
JimmyTheRed
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posted on 25/3/15
Jones - Not a 1st teamer and poor back up
Johnson - No need for an explanation
Enrique - Always injured
Lovren - Cut our losses and buy someone else
Lambert - Yes he is local but he never plays
Coates - 3 Managers have not believed in him
Borini - Not good enough for 4th place striker
Dunn - Tries his best but not a top 6 team player
Balotelli - Not good enough fullstop
Aspas - That corner
Alberto - Got talent but not enough for us
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I know its not the popular view on here but Mignolet isn't a top keeper and I think we need to replace.
posted on 25/3/15
I'd keep Lovren, still think he will come good for us but agree with the rest. I think all apart from Lovren and Lambert will leave.
Does anyone know how Alberto is doing on his loan spell? He really does seem like the most pointless signing we have made in recent years. A really bad call from the scouting team.
posted on 25/3/15
I'm not sure what happened with Borini, I really though he would take a few people by surprise at Liverpool and he'd prove a shrewd purchase.
I remember watching him as a youngster and he always seemed a natural finisher paired with lovely movement.
posted on 25/3/15
Will be interesting to see if we cut Manquillos loan short too. With it looking like Johnson is leaving I think we will probably hold onto him for backup but wouldn't rule it out.
posted on 25/3/15
I'd give Lovren another year, after what we paid for him give him one more season to prove himself.
I think we will keep Manquillo as an option if we are to play 4 at the back.
Can't argue with the rest of the list, we'd have to buy 2 strikers plus Origi coming in too.
posted on 25/3/15
I'd keep Lovren and also Lambert if he's willing to play as much as he's getting at the moment. Borini isn't getting games and is too young to be sitting on the bench. Alberto? Give him a preseason see how he goes. Enrique if he's willing to be back up. Other than that I would sell the rest. We have a massive squad of players.
posted on 25/3/15
I'd keep Lovren. He did improve when he covered for Sakho.
Alberto like TOOR said evaluate after preseason.
We should look to get rid of Allen. He's just not good enough. We have been winning inspite of him and the sooner Lucas gets in the side the better.
Kolo contract is to expire in summer too but again he's worth a new rolling contract but hopefully we see Wisdom and Ilori get more chances.
posted on 25/3/15
I'd let most of those go I guess. Lovren won't be going anywhere and I still think he will come good for us.
I don't think we will be seeing Wisdom or Ilori in a Liverpool shirt anytime soon either so they may go.
posted on 25/3/15
Oh and I think Kolo will go.
posted on 25/3/15
comment by (Kash) Mario Balle Balle Balotelli - Justice4Gaza (U1108)
posted 28 minutes ago
I'd keep Lovren. He did improve when he covered for Sakho.
Alberto like TOOR said evaluate after preseason.
We should look to get rid of Allen. He's just not good enough. We have been winning inspite of him and the sooner Lucas gets in the side the better.
Kolo contract is to expire in summer too but again he's worth a new rolling contract but hopefully we see Wisdom and Ilori get more chances.
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We have no cover for Lucas if we get rid of Allen. remember Stevie is leaving this summer. I thought Allen played well in some games. For £10m we are not going to find much better in my opinion.
posted on 25/3/15
With players like Song and Schneiderlin available as well as Milner we don't need to waste time with someone average as Allen.
posted on 25/3/15
I would keep Lovren for another year to see if he can turn it around.
Allen won't be going anywhere so Kash can clear that wet dream. Funny how Kash was quiet on him for a month before the Utd game.
Other than that pretty much agree.
The likes of Ilori and Wisdom have it all to do as well. Wisdom can't even get in West Brom's team now so his future looks bleak.
Our squad really is extremely bloated.
We could lose the majority of these players without even replacing them.
posted on 25/3/15
Allen won't be going anywhere - in fact I reckon they'll give him a new contract in the summer.
I'm not his biggest fan, I feel when the going gets tough he goes missing, but he is the only type of player that we have and can play any of the central midfield positions.
I don't particularly want to find and integrate three new midfielders and that is what we would have to do were Allen to leave.
He always looks in trouble on the ball though! Never looks easy with Joe.
posted on 25/3/15
I wasn't particularly quiet and I put some counter arguments over Allen's performance against Man City which were spot on.
There are much better players than Allen out there who are available and not in the radar off the top rich clubs. If we don't get CL the budget in summer will be very small so sales will be needed.
posted on 25/3/15
Please forgive my ignorance, but who is Dunn?
posted on 25/3/15
Wisdom will leave. He has had a poor season for WBA, and if any manager was going to get him defending well it would have been Pulis. Not good enough I'm afraid, get rid in the summer. Ilori has his work cut out but will get a chance.
posted on 25/3/15
Why did Stupendous Sakho aka Ilori get banned again for?
posted on 25/3/15
There are much better players than Allen out there who are available and not in the radar off the top rich clubs. If we don't get CL the budget in summer will be very small so sales will be needed.
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This is a spurious statement to say the least.
posted on 25/3/15
We have loads of sales as the OP demonstrates.
We don't need to lose more current first team squad members.
Whether you like him or not, the last month has again shown that when he gets a run of games Allen can do a sound job, as I expected he would.
He isn't exciting and at the very highest level he isn't going to influence a game much, but is a good professional, a solid player, homegrown, who won't moan or expect to be starting every game.
You need squad players to fill out a squad.
You go on and on about Song but he is not remotely what we need. He is flaky, isn't a solid holding player and has a questionable mentality. Where has he been since Xmas? He doesn't even have the excuse of not knowing the PL.
posted on 25/3/15
Why did Stupendous Sakho aka Ilori get banned again for?
======================
Did he get banned?
Good.
posted on 25/3/15
He gets banned about 3 times a year.
Strange kid.
posted on 25/3/15
Team like West Ham no matter who plays for them run out of steam. That's hardly an example when he has proved for Arsenal that he can go the full course of a season. I never said Song was a holding player and neither is Allen but he is good on the ball and a physical presence. In other words an upgrade on Allen.
I might be wrong but being at Arsenal from the age of 17 should qualify him as home grown. Still it doesn't have to be Song.
posted on 25/3/15
I've never been quite sold on Song myself but as said I'd rather keep Allen, add to the midfield, then maybe assess again next summer.
He was excellent against City but his end product as well as performance in games that we are up against it leave a lot to be desired.
posted on 25/3/15
I've watched quite a bit of Song this season and whilst he had one or two decent games at the start he's been poor, particularly since Christmas. I disagree he is an upgrade on Allen.
posted on 25/3/15
Definitely keep Lovren, also Borini and Alberto. OK, he had a poor game against United, but I think it's would be very harsh to dump him. He will learn from his mistakes, he was up against a top class striker in Mata.
ALLEN, for me is a very good player. Maybe not first choice in midfield, but he does get stuck in. Just look how he went about disrupting Yaya in the last game.
JimmyTheRed
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