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Theo or Raheem

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posted on 10/4/15

Reus

posted on 10/4/15

Lampard. Definitely Lampard.

Or Gerrard.

If not Lampard, then Gerrard.

Actually both might work...

posted on 10/4/15

Hardly a fair comparison.

TW has been injured for the guts of a year, and played next to no football. Also worth noting that when TW made his AFC debut RS was 10 yrs old.

comment by BO$$™ (U6401)

posted on 10/4/15

If Theo doesnt want to sign a new contract i wouldnt be against swapping them around.

Sterling wants to come to London and Theo for some reason wants to go to Liverpool.

If Theo does want to stay i would rather we kept him though

posted on 10/4/15

Mr Glass never plays.
Seems odd to want him

posted on 10/4/15

comment by BO$$™ (U6401)
posted 3 minutes ago
If Theo doesnt want to sign a new contract i wouldnt be against swapping them around.

Sterling wants to come to London and Theo for some reason wants to go to Liverpool.

If Theo does want to stay i would rather we kept him though
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well put

posted on 10/4/15

Pace - Walcott although what is he like after injury?
Skill - Sterling
Strength - Sterling
Finishing/Goals - Walcott
Final ball - both hit and miss

posted on 10/4/15

I honestly don't know why anyone pays attention the bullsh(i)t in the media about both players swapping clubs.

Sterling has been offered 100k a week at Pool and he turned it down, there's no way in hell he'll get offered any more than that at Arsenal, hes 20 yrs old for feck sake and imo hes not better than the Ox.

So why are we even entertaining the thought that we'll sign him? don't get me wrong, i'll love to have him in our squad but if hes already turning down 100k a week at 20, then somethings not quite right.

posted on 10/4/15

There’s absolutely no chance whatsoever of RS going to Arsenal.

The link has more than likely been generated by the player’s representative in an effort to strengthen contract negotiations with Liverpool.

posted on 10/4/15

If Theo does go then i wouldn't want Sterling as a replacement. I'd rather we went for Lacazette

posted on 10/4/15

Sterling is miles more talented than Theo and a better, more complete, more versatile footballer. Bizarre anyone could think otherwise. The swap dec would never happen cos Liverpool aren't that stupid.

posted on 10/4/15

Sheriff

Not sure how anyone could confidently describe RS as you have, given the guy’s 20yrs old, and still developing as a player.

Walcott has over 200 Arsenal appearances under his belt and was playing in our first team when RS was still in primary school.

I had mentioned in another thread that Barca's Pedro would be a far better option should TW leave.

posted on 10/4/15

"Not sure how anyone could confidently describe RS as you have, given the guy’s 20yrs old, and still developing as a player."

I didn't compare him to Hazard or Alexis, did I? I'd easily have him over Walcott. He's a developing player, but he has still been one of the best wide attackers for the last 2 seasons. That makes his prospects even more scary. Lightning quick, intelligent movement off the ball, good dribbling with close control, balance and trickery, a double-figures scorer, great engine and intensity and can play all across the front line. What's not to like?

posted on 10/4/15

Don't see how Pedro is a better option given the risk in signing a late 20's lightweight who could struggle with the physical demands of the week-to-week grind of PL after spending all his career in the bubble of Barca riding on easy success.

posted on 10/4/15

comment by HUNTING FOR GLORY (U16317)
posted 33 minutes ago
I honestly don't know why anyone pays attention the bullsh(i)t in the media about both players swapping clubs.

Sterling has been offered 100k a week at Pool and he turned it down, there's no way in hell he'll get offered any more than that at Arsenal, hes 20 yrs old for feck sake and imo hes not better than the Ox.

So why are we even entertaining the thought that we'll sign him? don't get me wrong, i'll love to have him in our squad but if hes already turning down 100k a week at 20, then somethings not quite right.
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This

Sterling is a fabulous player and sentimentality aside I would prefer him over Theo but I still want him to have another season progressing at Liverpool while we give Ox who I believe is equally gifted.

Ox and Sterling are good mates and would live to see both play for Arsenal.

Theo is apparently a Liverpool fan.

posted on 10/4/15

comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 6 minutes ago
"Not sure how anyone could confidently describe RS as you have, given the guy’s 20yrs old, and still developing as a player."

I didn't compare him to Hazard or Alexis, did I? I'd easily have him over Walcott. He's a developing player, but he has still been one of the best wide attackers for the last 2 seasons. That makes his prospects even more scary. Lightning quick, intelligent movement off the ball, good dribbling with close control, balance and trickery, a double-figures scorer, great engine and intensity and can play all across the front line. What's not to like?

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You have pretty much descibed TW at the same age.

Pedro is 27, valued around £20m (considerably cheaper then RS) a complete player, and more importantly a player who would ease into our style of play.

You make out as if Barca players are not of the required standard to compete in the PL. Alexis (similar physique and build) has coped ok?

They also coped fairly well with the rigours of international football.

posted on 10/4/15

I think Theo has proven himself to be a better player, although Sterling is quite young. TBH I dont rate Sterling that highly. My problem with Theo is that he is a serial moaner, who thinks he's entitled to play CF when his finishing is hot and cold. Then of course there are the injuries. I wonder how fast he will be in a few years time with those injuries and how it will affect him.

For those reasons i'd rather have Sterling, who doesnt mind where he plays.

posted on 10/4/15

Question from an Arsenal perspective is even if he's better than Walcott- is he so much better that you're going to give Liverpool a decent player as well as some money to work with too.

Also, how many swap deals do you see in football among top clubs really? Even Liverpool couldn't use the bargaining chip of Suarez to lure Sanchez instead of Arsenal.

posted on 10/4/15

There is no doubting that Sterling is a good player. But at 20ys old is he worth in excess of 100k a week (which he turned down a LFC). IMO not at present.

Maybe if he continues to perform to a similar level over the next few seasons but for the kind of contract he would demand, there are better and more cost efficient options abroad should TW leave.

I suspect both players will sign new deals anyway.

posted on 10/4/15

How much you paying Welbeck ?

posted on 10/4/15

"You have pretty much descibed TW at the same age."

No, I haven't. At 20, many were questioning if Walcott was a professional footballer, or a sprinter out of his depth. Most of our fans slated him massively. Rival fans thought he was a big joke. He was nowhere near Sterling's current level at 20.

posted on 10/4/15

comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 57 minutes ago
Sterling is miles more talented than Theo and a better, more complete, more versatile footballer. Bizarre anyone could think otherwise. The swap dec would never happen cos Liverpool aren't that stupid.
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Completely agree. I like Walcott, but Sterling has the ingredients to become a much more complete player.

I actually think Sterling is being underrated, and in the current market, I don't think the 100k+ per week he is asking for is that ludicrous.

I'm copy and pasting part of an argument I wrote regarding Sterling, so apologies if it's not all relevant, but:
He was ranked as the best performing teenager across the major leagues in Europe by Whoscored.com last season, the second best by Squawka, and was later voted by a select of journalists from across the continent as the best Under-21 player in Europe as he won the 'European Golden Boy' award.
Ancelotti has described Sterling as 'one of the best in Europe', whilst Wenger described him as 'one of the great players in England'.
He's now being strongly linked with the likes of Bayern Munich, Madrid, and PSG, with Xavi also earmarking him as a potential future Barcelona player.

Thus far this season, he's statistically the highest ranked player of his age (or younger) in the country according to Whoscored and Squawka, and the second best player of a comparable age in Europe as a whole by Squawka's performance score rankings.

He needs to work on his end-product, but the materials are there for a world-class player.
His speed is comparable to Walcott with one of the best turns of pace I've seen (remember how easily he burst past Salah), but he has great strength to match as well (just ask Vincent Kompany, for example); he can run faster with the ball at his feet than many players can without, and he's already one of the most prolific dribblers in the league; he seems equally comfortable taking his man on down the outside or drifting inside into space, which makes his movements very difficult to anticipate/defend against; he's comfortable making diagonal runs in-behind, drifting in-between the lines into pockets of space, and/or holding the width and isolating the full-back like a more pragmatic winger, allowing him to adapt to various systems and game-plans, but also make him very difficult for the opposition to plan for; and his work-rate and defensive qualities and very underappreciated (he's played wing-back on a number of occasions).

I don't think he's quite reached the heights he did last season (when he was instrumental - along with Suarez et al - in Liverpool's late title charge), but this is likely symptomatic of the difficulties Liverpool as a whole have had this season (large influx of new players; loss of Suarez and injuries - particularly to Sturridge; Rodgers' tinkering of the system) as well as the fact that he's been switched across 6 different positions across the season (both wings, both wing-backs, behind the striker, and as the striker), but his talent is still clear to see.

I appreciate football is all about opinions, so there's no stats that I can throw out there that can objectively prove my point, but nevertheless, I feel there is a good argument in there that not only is he currently a very good player, but also that he's considered one of the most talented young players in football.

Walcott is a great player, but I think Sterling's ceiling is far higher.

posted on 10/4/15

It doesn't matter too much who has more talent. We have several players with more talent than Sterling already. Walcott is a very different player and for the team it is great to have a different player. You can't just have a team full of talented players who play similar positions.

I like Sterling and I like Walcott. Sterling probably has more talent but I like the extra dimension that Walcott gives the team.

We already have Alexis who is miles better than Sterling.

posted on 10/4/15

And I will add that Walcott was a key factor in RvP fantastic season with us. He provided him with a lot of lovely assists!

posted on 10/4/15

"We have several
players with more talent than Sterling already."

No, we don't. There's no player under 25 at Arsenal, better or more talented than Sterling.

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