#3: “Right Hook” – This is a Pacquiao punch that will be very hard for Floyd to deal with because it is masqueraded underneath a plethora of constant upper body movement. Instead of a right jab, Pacquiao will move side to side and suddenly throw a very sharp short distance right hook as his lead punch, especially when his opponents are presenting a high guard defense. It will be difficult for Floyd to time because of Pacquiao’s unorthodox and unpredictable movement. Coming from a blind angle and with less distance to travel than the rear hand, a lead hook works brilliantly as a jab counter during a simultaneous clash of lead punches. Look out for this punch, as Mayweather absolutely loves throwing lead jabs to the body. As Floyd does this, expect Pac to simultaneously counter with a short lead right hook to Mayweather’s temple. Pacquiao will also use this punch to attack Mayweather’s body each time Pacquiao moves to his right (Floyd’s left) and each time Floyd attempts to roll his shoulder, which will leave his left kidney ripe for the taking. What’s so devastating about Pacquiao’s well-developed right hook is that it comes from all sorts of different elevations. He has a short hook, a shovel hook, and a slashing hook – all designed to minimize Floyd’s transgressions and counters and open up gaps for Pacquiao to unleash his left hand. If Floyd can’t counter-attack Pacquiao while Manny is machine gunning his combinations in Floyd’s direction, expect the judges to recognize game.
#2: “Deception through Fakes and Feints” – The punches that hurt the most are the ones you don’t see coming. Just ask Shane Mosley, who said he was so dizzy after Pacquiao knocked him down with a six-inch punch immediately after using a quick feint that he didn’t know what the hit him. Pacquiao’s style is built on the subtle yet effective use of faking his opponents with jab steps and upper body feints in order to lull his opponents to sleep so he can create openings for an attack. All of Pacquiao’s offensive transgressions utilize, in one form or another, deceptive movements that are designed to win that split-second moment in which one move can make the difference in the round. His constant side-to-side upper body movement is something which Floyd has never before witnessed in the ring and it will certainly keep Floyd guessing. This type of movement is Floyd’s kryptonite because Floyd’s game is predicated upon learning the timing of his opponent’s movements. With Pacquaio, Floyd will have an extremely difficult time trying to figure out Pacquiao’s rhythm because simply put, Pacquiao doesn’t have a rhythm. His movements are in spurts, almost staccato and scattered, creating a highly elusive target. Floyd will be in constant guessing mode not knowing as to when and from where the next punch will be thrown. There is a reason it took 42 rounds for Marquez to time Pacquiao and my money says Floyd doesn’t figure out Pacquiao in less than 12 rounds.
#1: “Angular Movement”– Most people like to talk about Pacquiao’s excellence in punching from all angles. None of this would be possible if it weren’t for Pacquiao’s footwork, which is largely responsible for his angular movement. Angles are the key to scientific boxing, and few boxers in the sport today are more accomplished at acquiring them than Pacquiao. Manny’s footwork may be far from textbook but when it comes to gaining the positional advantage and confusing an opponent, it’s without equal. Whether using an inside angle or outside angle, Pacquiao uses his foot speed in order to gain valuable positioning and openings. Against Floyd, you will see Pacquiao in continuous movement, even appearing reckless and disjointed at times, in order to maximize his angles and to put Floyd out of position to counter effectively. A boxer needs a tremendous amount of stamina and energy to do this, which is why few, if any, have been so successful at utilizing angles to their benefit than Pacquiao. The ultimate repercussion for Floyd is that Pacquiao’s use of angles will limit Floyd’s power shots as well because Floyd won’t be able to get leverage on his vaunted straight right hand or left hook without reaching across himself thus mitigating his ability to generate power. Now you see him, now you don’t. One moment Pacquiao is there, the next moment he’s gone, already launching an attack from a new and improved position. You think Floyd will be able to set and re-set amidst a non-stop angular onslaught from Pacquiao? All of Floyd’s wood chopping will be for naught and if his legs are shot in any kind of way, he is in waist deep doo-doo.
Are these enough to get Pac the win? Is the writer just a massive Pac fan, and is he giving FMJ no credit at all?
Can't wait to find out!!!
Agree cant wait to find out.
There are tricks in most boxers arsenal which could cause any boxer trouble
All depends if they come off..and Mayweather is a master of making sure they dont
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Work rate should be one of them and his movement.
But what will win Pacquiao this fight his his defence, very underrated and he will have to perfect time to make Floyd miss and make him pay.
Manny's great at taking away a fighters jab, that's how he's been able to fight bigger guys and win. Mayweather loves hopping back or forward on his jab, so it's really difficult to counter.
That'll be one of the interesting battles in the fight, if Mayweather can control that distance it will be difficult for Manny to get close. But if Manny can take his jab away then he can be devastating when guys back up (or come forward) in straight lines like Mayweather does. Watch Mayweather defend against a "flurry" puncher and how Manny attacks vs guys backing up in straight lines (first round Marquez). Mayweather will need to use a lot more lateral movement and pivoting, not just getting out of range, meaning he'll have to trade at times. Which is why I've been saying he'll change his usual style and why he's been doing more strength and power training.
I doubt Manny will try to land many overhand lefts, it would leave him too open for Mayweather's best shot (counter right) and he'd start to time him into his pull counters. The straight left is Manny's big threat, Mayweather has trouble defending against that and even against orthodox fighters with a solid jab. Manny can definitely use right hooks to turn Floyd and set him up for the left, that's what worked for Corely and Judah against him.
As for feints and movement, something Manny's brilliant at and makes it really difficult to time him, that's why it's such an interesting fight. I imagine Mayweather will try to control with the jab and keep the fight at his range, but with feints and movement Manny can dampen his already low punch output. If early Manny can get Mayweather to react to his feints then he'll be more reluctant to pop the jab, especially if Manny feints and lands something early in the fight.
Both guys have got so many skills that will trouble each other.
Vik
If Floyd starts to bite when Manny baits him with feints, then he'll end up moving too much or too little. Floyd moved better in Maidana 2 than the 1st, but it was still a poor performance and he got caught on the ropes a lot by reacting to Maidana's feints and movement. Maidana sold him a feint on the big shot he hit him with at the end of the 3rd (or 4th?). Manny's feints and movement are a level above Maidana's, so I you can't pretend Floyd can avoid anything and everything.
Although something Floyd could be successful with is drawing Manny into traps by selling him a fake reaction to a feint because Manny feints and flurries rather than feinting to get a specific reaction.
Some interesting analysis Bitton.
As you say both fighters have things in their armoury that can really trouble each other. It's just a question of who will be able to implement their will on the fight and dictate the pace.
We know that Floyd is as clever as they come in the ring so you have to give him the edge just for that. But Manny will definitely land punches on Floyd, you can't fight Pacquiao and not get hit, it just doesn't work like that.
How much Manny is able to hit Floyd remains to be seen but I don't see Manny being able to land too many bombs, he will get chances though so it's up to him to make them count.
Floyd is TBE and will cement his legacy as the greatest boxer of all time after sweeping Manny aside.
"Showing is better than telling".
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Vik... Don't necessarily disagree
Thing is, if Floyd lands a few good clean shots and Manny lands multiple glancing shots with one or two clean, then he could get the round. That's why I think Floyd needs to open up more if he wants to make sure he gets the round. That could work for or against him though.
Floyd will be looking to walk him on to something and it's possible he could get him coming in like did Hatton, but it'd be a risky strategy just to wait for that opening...
Superb it definitely comes down to who can dictate the pace. One thing that makes me think that Manny might win is that Floyd can be a bit of a slow starter, if Manny can force his pace at the start he can take a bit out of Floyd and he can keep his intensity up for every round. And once Manny builds up a bit of steam it won't be easy for Floyd to break that rhythm.
Other side of that coin though is if Floyd kills the pace early, pot shots and tries to tie Manny up when he comes in, then he could win a decision. I've never really seen anyone slow Manny down and get a hold of him though, even when he's lost it's been slugging it out.
It will hopefully be everything that everyone wants it to be.
Pac is an exciting come-forward fighter and Floyd is the opposite...the more boring the fight, the more rounds will be scored to him.
I expect a nervy start, a pretty average middle and a slightly more exciting end.
I think I'd like Pac to win, just to see what happened in the Mayweather camp. But I'm easy either way...I think both fighters are incredible.
The fight will be good for boxing in the long term, although not so much for the fans in the short term...I just hope more top of the pile fighters will fight each other after this.
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posted on 28/4/15
#3: “Right Hook” – This is a Pacquiao punch that will be very hard for Floyd to deal with because it is masqueraded underneath a plethora of constant upper body movement. Instead of a right jab, Pacquiao will move side to side and suddenly throw a very sharp short distance right hook as his lead punch, especially when his opponents are presenting a high guard defense. It will be difficult for Floyd to time because of Pacquiao’s unorthodox and unpredictable movement. Coming from a blind angle and with less distance to travel than the rear hand, a lead hook works brilliantly as a jab counter during a simultaneous clash of lead punches. Look out for this punch, as Mayweather absolutely loves throwing lead jabs to the body. As Floyd does this, expect Pac to simultaneously counter with a short lead right hook to Mayweather’s temple. Pacquiao will also use this punch to attack Mayweather’s body each time Pacquiao moves to his right (Floyd’s left) and each time Floyd attempts to roll his shoulder, which will leave his left kidney ripe for the taking. What’s so devastating about Pacquiao’s well-developed right hook is that it comes from all sorts of different elevations. He has a short hook, a shovel hook, and a slashing hook – all designed to minimize Floyd’s transgressions and counters and open up gaps for Pacquiao to unleash his left hand. If Floyd can’t counter-attack Pacquiao while Manny is machine gunning his combinations in Floyd’s direction, expect the judges to recognize game.
#2: “Deception through Fakes and Feints” – The punches that hurt the most are the ones you don’t see coming. Just ask Shane Mosley, who said he was so dizzy after Pacquiao knocked him down with a six-inch punch immediately after using a quick feint that he didn’t know what the hit him. Pacquiao’s style is built on the subtle yet effective use of faking his opponents with jab steps and upper body feints in order to lull his opponents to sleep so he can create openings for an attack. All of Pacquiao’s offensive transgressions utilize, in one form or another, deceptive movements that are designed to win that split-second moment in which one move can make the difference in the round. His constant side-to-side upper body movement is something which Floyd has never before witnessed in the ring and it will certainly keep Floyd guessing. This type of movement is Floyd’s kryptonite because Floyd’s game is predicated upon learning the timing of his opponent’s movements. With Pacquaio, Floyd will have an extremely difficult time trying to figure out Pacquiao’s rhythm because simply put, Pacquiao doesn’t have a rhythm. His movements are in spurts, almost staccato and scattered, creating a highly elusive target. Floyd will be in constant guessing mode not knowing as to when and from where the next punch will be thrown. There is a reason it took 42 rounds for Marquez to time Pacquiao and my money says Floyd doesn’t figure out Pacquiao in less than 12 rounds.
#1: “Angular Movement”– Most people like to talk about Pacquiao’s excellence in punching from all angles. None of this would be possible if it weren’t for Pacquiao’s footwork, which is largely responsible for his angular movement. Angles are the key to scientific boxing, and few boxers in the sport today are more accomplished at acquiring them than Pacquiao. Manny’s footwork may be far from textbook but when it comes to gaining the positional advantage and confusing an opponent, it’s without equal. Whether using an inside angle or outside angle, Pacquiao uses his foot speed in order to gain valuable positioning and openings. Against Floyd, you will see Pacquiao in continuous movement, even appearing reckless and disjointed at times, in order to maximize his angles and to put Floyd out of position to counter effectively. A boxer needs a tremendous amount of stamina and energy to do this, which is why few, if any, have been so successful at utilizing angles to their benefit than Pacquiao. The ultimate repercussion for Floyd is that Pacquiao’s use of angles will limit Floyd’s power shots as well because Floyd won’t be able to get leverage on his vaunted straight right hand or left hook without reaching across himself thus mitigating his ability to generate power. Now you see him, now you don’t. One moment Pacquiao is there, the next moment he’s gone, already launching an attack from a new and improved position. You think Floyd will be able to set and re-set amidst a non-stop angular onslaught from Pacquiao? All of Floyd’s wood chopping will be for naught and if his legs are shot in any kind of way, he is in waist deep doo-doo.
Are these enough to get Pac the win? Is the writer just a massive Pac fan, and is he giving FMJ no credit at all?
Can't wait to find out!!!
posted on 28/4/15
Agree cant wait to find out.
There are tricks in most boxers arsenal which could cause any boxer trouble
All depends if they come off..and Mayweather is a master of making sure they dont
posted on 28/4/15
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posted on 28/4/15
Work rate should be one of them and his movement.
But what will win Pacquiao this fight his his defence, very underrated and he will have to perfect time to make Floyd miss and make him pay.
posted on 28/4/15
Manny's great at taking away a fighters jab, that's how he's been able to fight bigger guys and win. Mayweather loves hopping back or forward on his jab, so it's really difficult to counter.
That'll be one of the interesting battles in the fight, if Mayweather can control that distance it will be difficult for Manny to get close. But if Manny can take his jab away then he can be devastating when guys back up (or come forward) in straight lines like Mayweather does. Watch Mayweather defend against a "flurry" puncher and how Manny attacks vs guys backing up in straight lines (first round Marquez). Mayweather will need to use a lot more lateral movement and pivoting, not just getting out of range, meaning he'll have to trade at times. Which is why I've been saying he'll change his usual style and why he's been doing more strength and power training.
I doubt Manny will try to land many overhand lefts, it would leave him too open for Mayweather's best shot (counter right) and he'd start to time him into his pull counters. The straight left is Manny's big threat, Mayweather has trouble defending against that and even against orthodox fighters with a solid jab. Manny can definitely use right hooks to turn Floyd and set him up for the left, that's what worked for Corely and Judah against him.
As for feints and movement, something Manny's brilliant at and makes it really difficult to time him, that's why it's such an interesting fight. I imagine Mayweather will try to control with the jab and keep the fight at his range, but with feints and movement Manny can dampen his already low punch output. If early Manny can get Mayweather to react to his feints then he'll be more reluctant to pop the jab, especially if Manny feints and lands something early in the fight.
Both guys have got so many skills that will trouble each other.
posted on 28/4/15
Vik
If Floyd starts to bite when Manny baits him with feints, then he'll end up moving too much or too little. Floyd moved better in Maidana 2 than the 1st, but it was still a poor performance and he got caught on the ropes a lot by reacting to Maidana's feints and movement. Maidana sold him a feint on the big shot he hit him with at the end of the 3rd (or 4th?). Manny's feints and movement are a level above Maidana's, so I you can't pretend Floyd can avoid anything and everything.
Although something Floyd could be successful with is drawing Manny into traps by selling him a fake reaction to a feint because Manny feints and flurries rather than feinting to get a specific reaction.
posted on 28/4/15
Some interesting analysis Bitton.
As you say both fighters have things in their armoury that can really trouble each other. It's just a question of who will be able to implement their will on the fight and dictate the pace.
We know that Floyd is as clever as they come in the ring so you have to give him the edge just for that. But Manny will definitely land punches on Floyd, you can't fight Pacquiao and not get hit, it just doesn't work like that.
How much Manny is able to hit Floyd remains to be seen but I don't see Manny being able to land too many bombs, he will get chances though so it's up to him to make them count.
posted on 28/4/15
Floyd is TBE and will cement his legacy as the greatest boxer of all time after sweeping Manny aside.
"Showing is better than telling".
posted on 28/4/15
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Vik... Don't necessarily disagree
Thing is, if Floyd lands a few good clean shots and Manny lands multiple glancing shots with one or two clean, then he could get the round. That's why I think Floyd needs to open up more if he wants to make sure he gets the round. That could work for or against him though.
Floyd will be looking to walk him on to something and it's possible he could get him coming in like did Hatton, but it'd be a risky strategy just to wait for that opening...
Superb it definitely comes down to who can dictate the pace. One thing that makes me think that Manny might win is that Floyd can be a bit of a slow starter, if Manny can force his pace at the start he can take a bit out of Floyd and he can keep his intensity up for every round. And once Manny builds up a bit of steam it won't be easy for Floyd to break that rhythm.
Other side of that coin though is if Floyd kills the pace early, pot shots and tries to tie Manny up when he comes in, then he could win a decision. I've never really seen anyone slow Manny down and get a hold of him though, even when he's lost it's been slugging it out.
posted on 29/4/15
It will hopefully be everything that everyone wants it to be.
Pac is an exciting come-forward fighter and Floyd is the opposite...the more boring the fight, the more rounds will be scored to him.
I expect a nervy start, a pretty average middle and a slightly more exciting end.
I think I'd like Pac to win, just to see what happened in the Mayweather camp. But I'm easy either way...I think both fighters are incredible.
The fight will be good for boxing in the long term, although not so much for the fans in the short term...I just hope more top of the pile fighters will fight each other after this.
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