comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 2 minutes ago
A lot of people think I don't rate Modric, but the guy is one of the most overhyped players I've seen and I find myself over-compensating when trying to counter-balance the ludicrous hype. Too much praise for far too little. On what planet could you say Modric was better for Spurs than Bale?
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when did i say that modric was far better for spurs than bale? you are just making things up now.
i said modric is by far the better footballer than bale, which he is…
modric runs games, and is more consistent (at spurs and at madrid)
bale is the more spectacular, and obviously is a forward so will score and assist more.. but in terms of a pure footballer, modric is the best player i have seen at spurs since i started watching in 1995
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 8 minutes ago
modric was a far better footballer than bale.
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Seriously? So if you could have one of them at their prime back in Spurs, you'd choose Modric over Bale?
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not necessarily, i would probably choose bale… thats because he is a more unique kind of player.. whereas a modric style player is more common (we already have one in bentaleb). now obviously bentaleb is nowhere near as good as modric as things stand, but two or three years down the line i reckon he won't be far behind.
kid is class
when did i say that modric was far better for spurs than bale? you are just making things up now.
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You said "modric was a far better footballer than bale." That is used in the past tense, so seeing as their last clubs were Spurs and this is an article about Spurs players, what else did you expect would be read into the comment.
i said modric is by far the better footballer than bale, which he is…
modric runs games, and is more consistent (at spurs and at madrid)
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Modric is not a better footballer than Bale. He has a unique skillset which is superior to Bale's while Bale excels him in other areas. He is more consistent cos the very nature of players like him who don't take too many risks is that it's far easier to be consistent. Xavi was more consistent than Messi, but I'd hardly be declaring him better than Messi. Modric doesn't have to make anything significant hapen to have a good game. He just has to keep it tidy and recycle it efficiently and allow the front 4 or 5 players do their thing. Bale HAS to make sparks fly and he's judged in a very different way.
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 1 minute ago
when did i say that modric was far better for spurs than bale? you are just making things up now.
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You said "modric was a far better footballer than bale." That is used in the past tense, so seeing as their last clubs were Spurs and this is an article about Spurs players, what else did you expect would be read into the comment.
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being a better footballer doesn't necessarily mean that they were better for the team than another.
for example, i would say that the best footballer for spain when they won the world cup was iniesta… but their most important player was xavi…
anyway.. i already said i would lean towards bale over modric… but that doesn't change the fact that modric is the better footballer…
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 38 seconds ago
i said modric is by far the better footballer than bale, which he is…
modric runs games, and is more consistent (at spurs and at madrid)
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Modric is not a better footballer than Bale. He has a unique skillset which is superior to Bale's while Bale excels him in other areas. He is more consistent cos the very nature of players like him who don't take too many risks is that it's far easier to be consistent. Xavi was more consistent than Messi, but I'd hardly be declaring him better than Messi. Modric doesn't have to make anything significant hapen to have a good game. He just has to keep it tidy and recycle it efficiently and allow the front 4 or 5 players do their thing. Bale HAS to make sparks fly and he's judged in a very different way.
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ok sir
but modric is still a better pure footballer than bale. for example, take away bale's pace… you take away half the player… take away modric's pace.. you take away a tiny part of the player… thats because modric is a better footballer…
watch madrid play football…. bale is class.. but compared to the other madrid players his touch and technique isn't quite there….
i wouldn't be surprised if when all are fit the first names on the team sheet are…
1. ronaldo
2. ramos
3 modric
then the rest
I always think 'footballer' is an odd term though Chronic. A lot of Arsenal fans used to go on about Cazorla being a better 'footballer' than Bale.
Which simply isn't true, they may have better close control, but if you have the assets to bang the ball in from 30 yards out and run past anyone, who cares if you don't play intricate football as you don't have to. It doesn't make you a worse 'footballer'.
All that aside, Modric is now RM's most important player IMO (arguable with him and Ronaldo tbf). So I would have him ahead of Bale atm.
Of course technically Modric is far better than Bale. By miles. Based on technique, Bale wouldn't make the top 200 footballers in the world. But athleticism is a huge part of the game too and Bale is a facking beast.
Modric is probably more important for Madrid than Bale, that's true. He's more difficult to replace cos while Madrid can reshuffle their attacking options with class players like Isco in Bale's absence, Modric has the useless Illaramendi as his understudy for Madrid. They lose fluency in midfield when he's out.
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
I always think 'footballer' is an odd term though Chronic. A lot of Arsenal fans used to go on about Cazorla being a better 'footballer' than Bale.
Which simply isn't true, they may have better close control, but if you have the assets to bang the ball in from 30 yards out and run past anyone, who cares if you don't play intricate football as you don't have to. It doesn't make you a worse 'footballer'.
All that aside, Modric is now RM's most important player IMO (arguable with him and Ronaldo tbf). So I would have him ahead of Bale atm.
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depends how you look at it.
when i say footballer, i mean all aspects of the game.
right foot, left foot, touch, technique, spacial awareness, passing, quick thinking… etc etc
and when you watch real madrid play, there is little doubt that bale is not quite at the level on a lot of the above as other members of the team.. which is why he looks sometimes clumsy in possession (he didnt at spurs, because he was with mostly much inferior players).
that said, bale makes up for what he lacks on the above by having a strong mentality (scores goals at crucial times), and blistering pace and power….
he's still a very dangerous, and definitely world class player…. but as an all round footballer, he's just not as good as modric, and several others at madrid… and at barca he would look totally out of place imo… whereas modric would go there, and be the number 1 midfielder….
All that aside, Modric is now RM's most important player IMO (arguable with him and Ronaldo tbf).
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looool....don't be silly. Without Ronaldo, Madrid couldn't dream of even beating Athletico Madrid, nevermind the likes of Barca and Bayern. I'm not sure you realize what it means to be banging in well over a goal every game. Ronaldo is basically half the Madrid team and he's head, shoulders, waist and knees above any other player in importance.
yeah ronaldo is still the top man at real…
then i would say ramos
then modric
then probably benzema
and at barca he would look totally out of place imo… whereas modric would go there, and be the number 1 midfielder….
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If a workhorse like Rakitic can play for Barca, so can Bale. And I wouldn't know about being the number 1 midfielder. You only need to watch Iniesta waltzing through half the PSG team the other night to know he's still got it.
whoaaaa… rakitic is quality
then probably benzema
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It's a good sign you rate Benzema. Means you know your stuff. There's plenty of hipster bandwagonners on this forum who think he's crap - a player that would walk into any PL team. The mind boggles.
and bale would look out of place in a forward line of messi neymar suarez….
nowhere near technical enough to play that kind of intricate football… real's style suits him much more.
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 18 seconds ago
then probably benzema
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It's a good sign you rate Benzema. Means you know your stuff. There's plenty of hipster bandwagonners on this forum who think he's crap - a player that would walk into any PL team. The mind boggles.
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how can benzema be crap
the guy is world class and has been for years.
he would eat up the prem.
whoaaaa… rakitic is quality
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Glorified Ramsey. Looks a fish out of water at Barca. I still don't get how they sold Fabregas and Thiago and bought him.
i like rakitic tbh. but yeah, modric is twice the player.. but modric is probably the best at what he does in the world…. he's better than fabregas
Look at Madrid this season, they have missed Modric when he has been out far more than any other member of the team.
Admittedly one thing that is so incredible about Ronaldo is that his conditioning is so exceptional that he has been rarely injured, but when he has the team hasn't looked any worse. Even ask our resident Madrid fans IOAG & Peks and they will agree.
like rakitic tbh. but yeah, modric is twice the player.. but modric is probably the best at what he does in the world…. he's better than fabregas
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Modric isn't better than Fabregas.
tbh.. most people will probably remember that i wasn't the biggest bale fan when he was here… he annoyed me for some reason. modric annoyed me too. all the spurs players in that side pissssed me off for chucking away a huge points lead (twice in a row), and then started mouthing off about wanting CL after they had faaacked up the season.
lost loads of respect for most of them. bottlers.
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 1 minute ago
like rakitic tbh. but yeah, modric is twice the player.. but modric is probably the best at what he does in the world…. he's better than fabregas
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Modric isn't better than Fabregas.
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what?
course he is.
Look at Madrid this season, they have missed Modric when he has been out far more than any other member of the team.
Admittedly one thing that is so incredible about Ronaldo is that his conditioning is so exceptional that he has been rarely injured, but when he has the team hasn't looked any worse. Even ask our resident Madrid fans IOAG & Peks and they will agree.
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Really? Modric has missed quite a long time this season and Madrid are just 2 points behind Barca. I'd like to see Madrid for 3 months without Ronaldo. It wouldn't be pretty. I'm not denying Modric's importance for Madrid. He just doesn't come close to Ronaldo's influence. No one does. We're talking about Ronaldo here, ffs who gives you 50+ goals every season.
what?
course he is.
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posted on 28/4/15
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 2 minutes ago
A lot of people think I don't rate Modric, but the guy is one of the most overhyped players I've seen and I find myself over-compensating when trying to counter-balance the ludicrous hype. Too much praise for far too little. On what planet could you say Modric was better for Spurs than Bale?
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when did i say that modric was far better for spurs than bale? you are just making things up now.
i said modric is by far the better footballer than bale, which he is…
modric runs games, and is more consistent (at spurs and at madrid)
bale is the more spectacular, and obviously is a forward so will score and assist more.. but in terms of a pure footballer, modric is the best player i have seen at spurs since i started watching in 1995
posted on 28/4/15
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 8 minutes ago
modric was a far better footballer than bale.
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Seriously? So if you could have one of them at their prime back in Spurs, you'd choose Modric over Bale?
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not necessarily, i would probably choose bale… thats because he is a more unique kind of player.. whereas a modric style player is more common (we already have one in bentaleb). now obviously bentaleb is nowhere near as good as modric as things stand, but two or three years down the line i reckon he won't be far behind.
kid is class
posted on 28/4/15
when did i say that modric was far better for spurs than bale? you are just making things up now.
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You said "modric was a far better footballer than bale." That is used in the past tense, so seeing as their last clubs were Spurs and this is an article about Spurs players, what else did you expect would be read into the comment.
posted on 28/4/15
i said modric is by far the better footballer than bale, which he is…
modric runs games, and is more consistent (at spurs and at madrid)
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Modric is not a better footballer than Bale. He has a unique skillset which is superior to Bale's while Bale excels him in other areas. He is more consistent cos the very nature of players like him who don't take too many risks is that it's far easier to be consistent. Xavi was more consistent than Messi, but I'd hardly be declaring him better than Messi. Modric doesn't have to make anything significant hapen to have a good game. He just has to keep it tidy and recycle it efficiently and allow the front 4 or 5 players do their thing. Bale HAS to make sparks fly and he's judged in a very different way.
posted on 28/4/15
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 1 minute ago
when did i say that modric was far better for spurs than bale? you are just making things up now.
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You said "modric was a far better footballer than bale." That is used in the past tense, so seeing as their last clubs were Spurs and this is an article about Spurs players, what else did you expect would be read into the comment.
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being a better footballer doesn't necessarily mean that they were better for the team than another.
for example, i would say that the best footballer for spain when they won the world cup was iniesta… but their most important player was xavi…
anyway.. i already said i would lean towards bale over modric… but that doesn't change the fact that modric is the better footballer…
posted on 28/4/15
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 38 seconds ago
i said modric is by far the better footballer than bale, which he is…
modric runs games, and is more consistent (at spurs and at madrid)
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Modric is not a better footballer than Bale. He has a unique skillset which is superior to Bale's while Bale excels him in other areas. He is more consistent cos the very nature of players like him who don't take too many risks is that it's far easier to be consistent. Xavi was more consistent than Messi, but I'd hardly be declaring him better than Messi. Modric doesn't have to make anything significant hapen to have a good game. He just has to keep it tidy and recycle it efficiently and allow the front 4 or 5 players do their thing. Bale HAS to make sparks fly and he's judged in a very different way.
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ok sir
but modric is still a better pure footballer than bale. for example, take away bale's pace… you take away half the player… take away modric's pace.. you take away a tiny part of the player… thats because modric is a better footballer…
watch madrid play football…. bale is class.. but compared to the other madrid players his touch and technique isn't quite there….
i wouldn't be surprised if when all are fit the first names on the team sheet are…
1. ronaldo
2. ramos
3 modric
then the rest
posted on 28/4/15
I always think 'footballer' is an odd term though Chronic. A lot of Arsenal fans used to go on about Cazorla being a better 'footballer' than Bale.
Which simply isn't true, they may have better close control, but if you have the assets to bang the ball in from 30 yards out and run past anyone, who cares if you don't play intricate football as you don't have to. It doesn't make you a worse 'footballer'.
All that aside, Modric is now RM's most important player IMO (arguable with him and Ronaldo tbf). So I would have him ahead of Bale atm.
posted on 28/4/15
Of course technically Modric is far better than Bale. By miles. Based on technique, Bale wouldn't make the top 200 footballers in the world. But athleticism is a huge part of the game too and Bale is a facking beast.
Modric is probably more important for Madrid than Bale, that's true. He's more difficult to replace cos while Madrid can reshuffle their attacking options with class players like Isco in Bale's absence, Modric has the useless Illaramendi as his understudy for Madrid. They lose fluency in midfield when he's out.
posted on 28/4/15
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
I always think 'footballer' is an odd term though Chronic. A lot of Arsenal fans used to go on about Cazorla being a better 'footballer' than Bale.
Which simply isn't true, they may have better close control, but if you have the assets to bang the ball in from 30 yards out and run past anyone, who cares if you don't play intricate football as you don't have to. It doesn't make you a worse 'footballer'.
All that aside, Modric is now RM's most important player IMO (arguable with him and Ronaldo tbf). So I would have him ahead of Bale atm.
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depends how you look at it.
when i say footballer, i mean all aspects of the game.
right foot, left foot, touch, technique, spacial awareness, passing, quick thinking… etc etc
and when you watch real madrid play, there is little doubt that bale is not quite at the level on a lot of the above as other members of the team.. which is why he looks sometimes clumsy in possession (he didnt at spurs, because he was with mostly much inferior players).
that said, bale makes up for what he lacks on the above by having a strong mentality (scores goals at crucial times), and blistering pace and power….
he's still a very dangerous, and definitely world class player…. but as an all round footballer, he's just not as good as modric, and several others at madrid… and at barca he would look totally out of place imo… whereas modric would go there, and be the number 1 midfielder….
posted on 28/4/15
All that aside, Modric is now RM's most important player IMO (arguable with him and Ronaldo tbf).
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looool....don't be silly. Without Ronaldo, Madrid couldn't dream of even beating Athletico Madrid, nevermind the likes of Barca and Bayern. I'm not sure you realize what it means to be banging in well over a goal every game. Ronaldo is basically half the Madrid team and he's head, shoulders, waist and knees above any other player in importance.
posted on 28/4/15
yeah ronaldo is still the top man at real…
then i would say ramos
then modric
then probably benzema
posted on 28/4/15
and at barca he would look totally out of place imo… whereas modric would go there, and be the number 1 midfielder….
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If a workhorse like Rakitic can play for Barca, so can Bale. And I wouldn't know about being the number 1 midfielder. You only need to watch Iniesta waltzing through half the PSG team the other night to know he's still got it.
posted on 28/4/15
whoaaaa… rakitic is quality
posted on 28/4/15
then probably benzema
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It's a good sign you rate Benzema. Means you know your stuff. There's plenty of hipster bandwagonners on this forum who think he's crap - a player that would walk into any PL team. The mind boggles.
posted on 28/4/15
and bale would look out of place in a forward line of messi neymar suarez….
nowhere near technical enough to play that kind of intricate football… real's style suits him much more.
posted on 29/4/15
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 18 seconds ago
then probably benzema
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It's a good sign you rate Benzema. Means you know your stuff. There's plenty of hipster bandwagonners on this forum who think he's crap - a player that would walk into any PL team. The mind boggles.
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how can benzema be crap
the guy is world class and has been for years.
he would eat up the prem.
posted on 29/4/15
whoaaaa… rakitic is quality
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Glorified Ramsey. Looks a fish out of water at Barca. I still don't get how they sold Fabregas and Thiago and bought him.
posted on 29/4/15
ramsey is good though…
posted on 29/4/15
i like rakitic tbh. but yeah, modric is twice the player.. but modric is probably the best at what he does in the world…. he's better than fabregas
posted on 29/4/15
Look at Madrid this season, they have missed Modric when he has been out far more than any other member of the team.
Admittedly one thing that is so incredible about Ronaldo is that his conditioning is so exceptional that he has been rarely injured, but when he has the team hasn't looked any worse. Even ask our resident Madrid fans IOAG & Peks and they will agree.
posted on 29/4/15
like rakitic tbh. but yeah, modric is twice the player.. but modric is probably the best at what he does in the world…. he's better than fabregas
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Modric isn't better than Fabregas.
posted on 29/4/15
tbh.. most people will probably remember that i wasn't the biggest bale fan when he was here… he annoyed me for some reason. modric annoyed me too. all the spurs players in that side pissssed me off for chucking away a huge points lead (twice in a row), and then started mouthing off about wanting CL after they had faaacked up the season.
lost loads of respect for most of them. bottlers.
posted on 29/4/15
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 1 minute ago
like rakitic tbh. but yeah, modric is twice the player.. but modric is probably the best at what he does in the world…. he's better than fabregas
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Modric isn't better than Fabregas.
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what?
course he is.
posted on 29/4/15
Look at Madrid this season, they have missed Modric when he has been out far more than any other member of the team.
Admittedly one thing that is so incredible about Ronaldo is that his conditioning is so exceptional that he has been rarely injured, but when he has the team hasn't looked any worse. Even ask our resident Madrid fans IOAG & Peks and they will agree.
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Really? Modric has missed quite a long time this season and Madrid are just 2 points behind Barca. I'd like to see Madrid for 3 months without Ronaldo. It wouldn't be pretty. I'm not denying Modric's importance for Madrid. He just doesn't come close to Ronaldo's influence. No one does. We're talking about Ronaldo here, ffs who gives you 50+ goals every season.
posted on 29/4/15
what?
course he is.
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How is he better than Fabregas?
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