I don't think Dann will be going anywhere now.
He would have been sold by now... anyway, I'm more interested in who else we should get.
I'm not confident at all I honestly think we will get stung on the last day of the window and lose Jerome, Dann and Zigic cheap/loan without time for replacements, but not only that imagine the squad morale.
Its a shame we havent used dann the blues fans would of shown him how much we want him here but we havent been given the chance due to "injuries"
You have to remeber that the Transfer window shutting means nothing to us, as you can still sign Free Agents after then
The KiD
Interesting though that Dann is not even on the bench today... I thought he was fit now???
Well if Panu has been told to sell Dann then we would not want to risk playing him as if he picks up a knock or worse then that lowers his value and lowers chances of clubs comming after him.
Apparently maybe we played Jerome to prove his recovery to Fulham and i do think he could end up going as part of a swap deal.
The KiD
Think they will all go apart from Zigic, which leaves us with a big problem regarding wages.
I think worse case, Zigic will go off on loan the worry is would Zigic go somewhere on loan for lower wages.
I.e say a Spanish club take him on loan but they pay and agree to pay him £25K wages while we pay him nowt.
With loan deals its either
1) a set fee and the owning club will pick up wages for example we could charge £3M a season that makes us £500K for loan fee. or say £2M which means we lose £500K for season.
2) The loaning club pick up 100% of players wages thus they pay us maybe a loan fee, so they pay Zigic £50K a week.
3) The loaning club pay us a % of his wages, so say they pay us £25K a week and we pick up the other £25K
4) The loaning club agree a wage deal with Zigic and we for that season do not pay Zigic any wages, and the club pay him instead be that £30K, £40K or £50K etc.
I do fear we could be looking at scenerio 3....
Some club at deadline will loan him and pay a % of his wages which means we have no benefit of Zigic at our club and yet still have to pay some of his wages. Ok for clubs with cash to loan out there players like Man City do, but not for our club and not in our position.
I would to be honest consider selling Zigic for a small fee like £2M plus performance based addons or even £1M if it can rise to say £4M with addons.
Just to save his massive wages, as Zigics wages could pay for 5 good Championship players and i am talking the Top Players at this level (maybe not inc Prem players who will drop to this level)
Or it can pay 10 decent championship players wages.
The KiD
If we look at our XI when the names of players linked move on.....
Myhill, Spector, Davies, Caldwell, Murphy, Burke, Gomis, Fahey, Beausajour, Rooney and King.
I recon we are looking at a wage bill of about £120K Tops (if we was paying Myhills wages which we are not) i cant see it being more than that and could be as low as £100K
That side based on XI is decent for this league and should get a Play Off Place at the very least.
And Zigics wages are nearly half that sqaud when you take out the higher earners and only go by players like Gomis, Rooney, Fahey, Caldwell and Murphy then you could get 8 players like that for Zigics wages.
Thats why i feel had we sold Zigic when we sold say Gardner or as late as Johnson we would have had much more room to play with as far as signing free agents.
The KiD
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posted on 28/8/11
I don't think Dann will be going anywhere now.
He would have been sold by now... anyway, I'm more interested in who else we should get.
posted on 28/8/11
I'm not confident at all I honestly think we will get stung on the last day of the window and lose Jerome, Dann and Zigic cheap/loan without time for replacements, but not only that imagine the squad morale.
Its a shame we havent used dann the blues fans would of shown him how much we want him here but we havent been given the chance due to "injuries"
posted on 28/8/11
You have to remeber that the Transfer window shutting means nothing to us, as you can still sign Free Agents after then
The KiD
posted on 28/8/11
Interesting though that Dann is not even on the bench today... I thought he was fit now???
posted on 28/8/11
Well if Panu has been told to sell Dann then we would not want to risk playing him as if he picks up a knock or worse then that lowers his value and lowers chances of clubs comming after him.
Apparently maybe we played Jerome to prove his recovery to Fulham and i do think he could end up going as part of a swap deal.
The KiD
posted on 28/8/11
Think they will all go apart from Zigic, which leaves us with a big problem regarding wages.
posted on 28/8/11
I think worse case, Zigic will go off on loan the worry is would Zigic go somewhere on loan for lower wages.
I.e say a Spanish club take him on loan but they pay and agree to pay him £25K wages while we pay him nowt.
With loan deals its either
1) a set fee and the owning club will pick up wages for example we could charge £3M a season that makes us £500K for loan fee. or say £2M which means we lose £500K for season.
2) The loaning club pick up 100% of players wages thus they pay us maybe a loan fee, so they pay Zigic £50K a week.
3) The loaning club pay us a % of his wages, so say they pay us £25K a week and we pick up the other £25K
4) The loaning club agree a wage deal with Zigic and we for that season do not pay Zigic any wages, and the club pay him instead be that £30K, £40K or £50K etc.
I do fear we could be looking at scenerio 3....
Some club at deadline will loan him and pay a % of his wages which means we have no benefit of Zigic at our club and yet still have to pay some of his wages. Ok for clubs with cash to loan out there players like Man City do, but not for our club and not in our position.
I would to be honest consider selling Zigic for a small fee like £2M plus performance based addons or even £1M if it can rise to say £4M with addons.
Just to save his massive wages, as Zigics wages could pay for 5 good Championship players and i am talking the Top Players at this level (maybe not inc Prem players who will drop to this level)
Or it can pay 10 decent championship players wages.
The KiD
posted on 28/8/11
If we look at our XI when the names of players linked move on.....
Myhill, Spector, Davies, Caldwell, Murphy, Burke, Gomis, Fahey, Beausajour, Rooney and King.
I recon we are looking at a wage bill of about £120K Tops (if we was paying Myhills wages which we are not) i cant see it being more than that and could be as low as £100K
That side based on XI is decent for this league and should get a Play Off Place at the very least.
And Zigics wages are nearly half that sqaud when you take out the higher earners and only go by players like Gomis, Rooney, Fahey, Caldwell and Murphy then you could get 8 players like that for Zigics wages.
Thats why i feel had we sold Zigic when we sold say Gardner or as late as Johnson we would have had much more room to play with as far as signing free agents.
The KiD
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