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Is FFP ruining football?

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posted on 11/5/15

Euro League anyone

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comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
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comment by terminator1 (U1863)
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It's certainly affected us negatively imo. Whatever some say, we didn't actually splurge a huge amount of money last summer. It was Suarez + around 20mill or so...... For us to have challenged the same in the league and in the CL, we would of needed to have kept Suarez and spent 100m+.
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I dont think it has. The global revenue from Liverpool shirts and merchandising makes the confines of FFP much easier. If i wanted to take say west ham into the top 4, it would be much harder due to FFP as the revenue streams aren't there.
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The bitterness comes from teams who feel they should be top four but no longer are. In the past Everton and Liverpool were well backed by the Moores money, did either club complain.....?

Jack Walker used his personal fortune to take Blackburn to the title and Whelan used his wealth to take Wigan to the PL.....did anyone complain then?


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Not entirely sure what your point is??? Who's being bitter?

posted on 11/5/15

Yet Bournemouth win the Championship!

posted on 11/5/15

It was created to stop teams from going bust and spending beyond their means. However what it's actually done is protect the established elite from any real, sustainable challenge to their throne. A team like mine (Spurs) would need FIFA or Football Manager-esque scouting and management to become one of the elite through fair means.

posted on 11/5/15

" I guess one good thing is that the emphasis on the youth system becomes more and more important."

I think that's exactly why we're overloaded with 'one's for the future'

They're planning for this heavily IMO

But J Henry won't return my calls to confirm
Neither will his wife

posted on 11/5/15

comment by Ledley's knee surgeon: Football Manager legend - The Barca MSN... Messi: Football God πŸ‘ŒπŸΎ (U20121)
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It was created to stop teams from going bust and spending beyond their means. However what it's actually done is protect the established elite from any real, sustainable challenge to their throne. A team like mine (Spurs) would need FIFA or Football Manager-esque scouting and management to become one of the elite through fair means.
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And even then the likes of Chelsea could step in at the last minute and hijack your deal. Sound familiar?

posted on 11/5/15

comment by Kings Road (U1762)
posted 8 minutes ago
What it does do is stop club's in the lower league dreaming off ever making the top.

If you take hope away, what's the point?
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That's exactly what it does.

comment by SB&S (U17757)

posted on 11/5/15

Wasn't it the big teams that everyone on here says benefit from FFP the very same clubs that didn't want it but lost the majority vote? Are you now saying they managed to con UEFA and the 75% of teams wanting FFP? I don't geddit??? Has it been watered down?

posted on 11/5/15

comment by terminator1 (U1863)
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comment by Ledley's knee surgeon: Football Manager legend - The Barca MSN... Messi: Football God πŸ‘ŒπŸΎ (U20121)
posted 16 seconds ago
It was created to stop teams from going bust and spending beyond their means. However what it's actually done is protect the established elite from any real, sustainable challenge to their throne. A team like mine (Spurs) would need FIFA or Football Manager-esque scouting and management to become one of the elite through fair means.
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And even then the likes of Chelsea could step in at the last minute and hijack your deal. Sound familiar?
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Exactly. Although William is garbage, I'm genuinely glad they took him!

Speaking of Chelsea, I hate them with a passion as most people on here know, but what they're doing in regards to buying young, loaning and then either keeping or selling is the only way everyone else can compete and be compliant.

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comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
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comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 11 minutes ago
Yet Bournemouth win the Championship!
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Jointly owned by a rich Russian.
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Exactly, hasn't stopped them yet the claim is it will stop every smaller team.

That is what FFP is about, allowing teams to build but under conditions that stops clubs folding.

To me it seems as if there have been far fewer clubs being docked points for going into administration this season.

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comment by Admin1 (U1)
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comment by terminator1 (U1863)
posted 7 seconds ago
It's certainly affected us negatively imo. Whatever some say, we didn't actually splurge a huge amount of money last summer. It was Suarez + around 20mill or so...... For us to have challenged the same in the league and in the CL, we would of needed to have kept Suarez and spent 100m+.
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I dont think it has. The global revenue from Liverpool shirts and merchandising makes the confines of FFP much easier. If i wanted to take say west ham into the top 4, it would be much harder due to FFP as the revenue streams aren't there.
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But then the said billionaire owner can simply produce the revenue streams by simply getting a business to offer the club a humongous sponsorship deal. Let's say an airline offers a £200m 5 year deal.

posted on 11/5/15

'What it does do is stop club's in the lower league dreaming off ever making the top.'
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its obviously made our job harder, but it was no thanks to the board we had, who knew exactly what they were doing imo.....and that does leave a bitter taste....

posted on 11/5/15

Sky TV, the Premiership and the incorrectly named Champions League already ruined football.

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comment by Kolo's Long SchΕ‚ong! KLS ⚽️ (U1695)
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comment by Admin1 (U1)
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comment by terminator1 (U1863)
posted 7 seconds ago
It's certainly affected us negatively imo. Whatever some say, we didn't actually splurge a huge amount of money last summer. It was Suarez + around 20mill or so...... For us to have challenged the same in the league and in the CL, we would of needed to have kept Suarez and spent 100m+.
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I dont think it has. The global revenue from Liverpool shirts and merchandising makes the confines of FFP much easier. If i wanted to take say west ham into the top 4, it would be much harder due to FFP as the revenue streams aren't there.
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But then the said billionaire owner can simply produce the revenue streams by simply getting a business to offer the club a humongous sponsorship deal. Let's say an airline offers a £200m 5 year deal.
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UEFA look at every deal to discover if it has financial legs or is a scam. If its a scam it is pro-rated down.

posted on 11/5/15

@Shortback

I think the owners have other worries like wage inflation and supporter unrest about spending to consider.

They all know they'll never be CL sides /champions, FFP gives them a way to keep that at bay despite the 'loss of hope'

posted on 11/5/15

I would have thought Liverpool will benefit from FFP.

City are in need of a huge revamp. It will be very interesting to see how much they spend over the next few windows.

posted on 11/5/15

City are making more revenue nowadays so their spending power is greater. The punishment they got handed this season was based around the previous 2-3 years or so when their revenue wasn't what it is now as far as I understand.

comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 11/5/15

City's revenue is supposedly higher than Chelsea's now.

We have deals that weren't counted in the last set of figures were released.

The new sponsorship of the stadium trading ground + the Nissan deal and others.

We are expected to post profits in the next set of figures.

posted on 11/5/15

"City's revenue is supposedly higher than Chelsea's now."

Well. There's a shock.

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