They wouldn't pay him £8m a year even if he doesn't win anything.

He wouldn't last at Madrid.

I used to think Arsenal fans hated him due to no trophies but now it seems it doesn't matter about that. I am hoping Arsenal don't win the fa cup final otherwise he will have knocked us off our perch. Wenger is far higher rated then Klopp.

I've never hated Wenger, nor do I currently want him out (far from an AKB though) so I don't get your point Hafi.

Also who cares about Klopp don't know why you've brought him up

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He was loyal around 2005 and the few years before when he could have gone to Madrid a few times, Milan, Munich, Chelsea, City later on as well because he knew we wouldn't have much money when we moved stadiums.

He has the best managerial job in the world. Constantly expected to win the league whilst never having anywhere near best squad and getting shouted at train stations, getting booed after draws and losses and having banners go up.

We have more deluded fans the real tbh. At least with the money they spend on players and the quality within the squad they can expect to win more than one league and champions league in nine years. Their expectations are far more in line with reality than arsenal fans.

One day you will understand what he has done for our club and what he could have achieved personally if he had left us. If you're too blinkered then perhaps your children and their children will

ffs Godfather having a fit. Where has his work been doubted in this article?

I don't know what's worse GT's instant cry to any critics over Giroud or your reactions to Arsene being spoken of.

Also Wenger has failed in Europe for years all the way back to the Invincibles despite seeing worser sides win it over the years (Porto, L'pool etc..)

Yes he does have the best managerial job in the world because despite all those circumstances you speak not a single one of those instances can destabilise his job security nor will it ever put pressure on the board to do so, whereas elsewhere boards give in to fan pressure.

Wenger has had years to build a core through stability if he fails to deliver in the next few years (either one of the big 2) then he has failed to an extent.

Did the hard bit well but would prove to be unable to take Arsenal to the next level.

Also nothing guarantees Wenger would've achieved anything elsewhere don't kid yourself. He's bottled opportunities with money/top squads not to mention woeful in Europe.

He has it good at Arsenal and that's a fact

Good article

Wenger earned the privileges he has at Arsenal in the first decade and a bit of his tenure but he IMO has been given way too much power for one man.

Over the last 4/5 years he keeps making basic mistakes that other managers certainly wouldn't get away with.

Who cries? As if you matters

The best job would be somewhere like dortmund who still chanted Klopp name despite being bottom halfway through the season and then who gets the best send off I've ever seen


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/sport/video-1186227/Danke-Jurgen--Dortmund-perform-touching-tribute-Jurgen-Klopp.html

Absolute world class fans.

Op you are stupid. Sorry but it's the truth. Wenger would have had far more personal glory in the form of trophies if he had left. Fact. End of the day who caress about job security? Do you think mourinho was desperate for job security at any point in his career. Look at rafa benitez who can walk into any job in the world and has been at many teams. The top managers would never struggle for a job. Even today if wenger became available he could get any job, do you not think most managers would dream of managing barca or real. Has your sense of entitlement deluded you to think managing arsenal is the best job

It's easy to manage a club who has endless financial resources. It's not easy to manage a club who restricted themselve financialwise and built a new stadium on it's own profit and keep the club at the top of international football.

You think managing Real Madrid is easy, GT?

Performance discussion aside, though, this is an awful article. Whatever people think about Wenger you simply can't deny his love for the club and his desire to see it do well.

If you manage a club like RM or Barca you have to deal with the fact that you dont have it in your hands to decide who to buy. It's about to convince the members of the board that your suggestions are the right way forward.

That is not the way Wenger wanted to manage a club and probably the reason why he never wanted the RM job.

Wenger wouldn't have lasted more than 2 seasons. Real Madrid job is fools gold. The pressure is too intense. Whats more at the time when Wenger was on top of their list, they paid very little to their coaches. Del Bosque was on £450k a year, compare that to Wenger who was on £2m a season when we went unbeaten. Wenger knew he would make much more money with less pressure, god knows what Fiszman promised him if he stayed at Arsenal. Btw he also had his hand in African academies across the Maghreb, something that would considered a conflict of interest anywhere else in the world at the time.

AW will not be fully appreciated until he walks away from the club.

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The best job would be somewhere like dortmund who still chanted Klopp name despite being bottom halfway through the season and then who gets the best send off I've ever seen


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/sport/video-1186227/Danke-Jurgen--Dortmund-perform-touching-tribute-Jurgen-Klopp.html

Absolute world class fans.

Op you are stupid. Sorry but it's the truth. Wenger would have had far more personal glory in the form of trophies if he had left. Fact. End of the day who caress about job security? Do you think mourinho was desperate for job security at any point in his career. Look at rafa benitez who can walk into any job in the world and has been at many teams. The top managers would never struggle for a job. Even today if wenger became available he could get any job, do you not think most managers would dream of managing barca or real. Has your sense of entitlement deluded you to think managing arsenal is the best job


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Dortmund have never been in better shape than Arsenal, they appreciate Klopp for overachieving.

Yes Jose does envy Arsene's job security hence the yearly digs where he clearly highlights how fortunate Arsene is to coach with little pressure

Rafa was interim at Chelsea and will last 2 years tops at Madrid before he searches for his next journey, lmao you're foolish to compare anybody's position to Wenger's, he has by far the best situation in management where he runs the biggest club in London.

Also how can you call it a fact that Wenger would've won more elsewhere, our conditions may have suited him a lot more than another club. Jose only won a cup and the league there and was still deemed a failure, Arsene would do much worse than that. FACT

Felix I appreciate Arsene a whole lot I just refuse to agree with such claims that by rejecting Madrid he's done us a big favour.

Loyalty is when you stay because the place you're in conflict with needs you more than you need them (Gerrard - Liverpool - 05). Wenger is loyal because there was a time where this was the case, this most recent decision to snub Madrid however is not through loyalty, it's just through simple logic, he's in a much better job when you assess it as a whole

Yes ^ and thats why Pep Guardiola covets Arsenal.

Wenger is generally a loyal guy but that's not why he stayed - being Arsenal Manager is the best managerial job in football for these reasons :-

(1) Extremely highly paid.
(2) Aboard that doesn't expect much as long as you balance the books.
(3) A loyal and reasonable fan base.
(4) Total control of the football club from the footballing side of things.
(5) Now that the stadium has been paid off a decent amount of spending money.
(6) A brilliant stadium set up to play passing football.

The only weakness is we are not quite financially strong enough to compete with the richest half a dozen clubs in the world - but we are not far off.

Exactly the point I was trying to make, thank you

'He's a loyal man but not the reason he stayed'

The key line. Smashed it