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FIFA get found out for their corruption and all you caants can discuss is geo-politics and the crimes of the West/Qatar.....fack me FIFA are good.

comment by Wearethefamous THFC .. (U19211)
posted 4 minutes ago
daredevil, why don't you go and live in one of these lovely countries instead of living here and hating the west
pathetic little man
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You really are an imbecile. The fact I am English does not mean I cannot point out the bad and evil things we have done.

Unlike you, I have lived in the ME. Hundreds of thousands of westerners do and I would go back in a heartbeat


Me being critical of western hypocrisy does not make me hate my country.

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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 48 seconds ago
Anyone who thinks Qatar is more deserving of a World Cup than a country like Australia and proceeds to argue tooth and nail in favour of Qatar having the World Cup is a complete imbecile.
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Who has made that argument?
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If you have not spent the last few hours making that argument, whilst trying to turn the whole thread into anti-USA propaganda, then you need to start thinking before speak.
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I think your problem is reading and comprehension

I am anti hypocrisy. Read my posts properly and read what I actually post as opposed to what you think I post.

I have said FIFA is corrupt

I have said different countries have bribed FIFA. Us included

I have said people dying on the worksites in Qatar work for western contractors. One of them British but no one is outraged

I have said if people do not want Qatar to host the world cup because of gay rights the same rules should apply to Russia and the USA who have anti gay laws. It was just this week Ireland agreed gay people could wed ffs

People have complained about their culture, I have asked. When people come here you ask them to respect ours.

Some then said people have died there and I have said if it is death you care about, countries who fight illegal wars and murder hundreds of thousands should not host world cups.

My position is very clear. There is no anti west agenda.

My agenda is anti hypocrisy and selective outrage

comment by Wearethefamous THFC .. (U19211)
posted 59 seconds ago
I doubt very much this is your country
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I doubt very much you have a brain but hey ho

comment by Murder on Zidanes floor, Butt you better not Gil Giroud, Pique, gonna burn this Bogdán Prowse Wright Brown (U7958)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Wearethefamous THFC .. (U19211)
posted 4 minutes ago
daredevil, why don't you go and live in one of these lovely countries instead of living here and hating the west
pathetic little man
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You really are an imbecile. The fact I am English does not mean I cannot point out the bad and evil things we have done.

Unlike you, I have lived in the ME. Hundreds of thousands of westerners do and I would go back in a heartbeat


Me being critical of western hypocrisy does not make me hate my country.
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People that will die if the World Cup wasn't in Qatar = <5
People that will die if the World Cup is held in Qatar = >4000

I don't understand how it's hypocrisy to say that this was clearly a bad choice
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Please read my post above. Hopefully it clarifies my position

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Those within FIFA who are willing to admit to their guilt get purged, leaving Blatter untouched, untouchable and unopposed.

This is some serious mafia shít

Mudd, you're doing your usual strawman argument designed to muddy a very clear debate.

Thousands of people will die building this world cup. It doesn't matter what nationality the companies are that are doing it. It's happening on Qatari soil and the people in charge of Qatar are letting it happen when they can very easily not let it happen.

You're basically saying that you're prepared to let these innocent people die just because you disagree with the governments of the US and the UK going to war illegally.

I'm with Zidinfandel on this one.

Qatar isn't suitable venue for the World Cup.

Did anyone here fifas press conference it made as much sense as tcp

MUDD

Putting the merits of Qatar’s suitability to host a WC to one side, do you not at least feel it at best suspicious despite FIFA declaring Qatar unfit to host a WC, they then award Qatar the competition, suppressing/purging their own damming report prior to doing so?

comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 48 seconds ago
Anyone who thinks Qatar is more deserving of a World Cup than a country like Australia and proceeds to argue tooth and nail in favour of Qatar having the World Cup is a complete imbecile.
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Who has made that argument?
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If you have not spent the last few hours making that argument, whilst trying to turn the whole thread into anti-USA propaganda, then you need to start thinking before speak.
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I think your problem is reading and comprehension

I am anti hypocrisy. Read my posts properly and read what I actually post as opposed to what you think I post.

I have said FIFA is corrupt

I have said different countries have bribed FIFA. Us included

I have said people dying on the worksites in Qatar work for western contractors. One of them British but no one is outraged

I have said if people do not want Qatar to host the world cup because of gay rights the same rules should apply to Russia and the USA who have anti gay laws. It was just this week Ireland agreed gay people could wed ffs

People have complained about their culture, I have asked. When people come here you ask them to respect ours.

Some then said people have died there and I have said if it is death you care about, countries who fight illegal wars and murder hundreds of thousands should not host world cups.

My position is very clear. There is no anti west agenda.

My agenda is anti hypocrisy and selective outrage
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All very noble of you. So do you want the World Cup to go forward in Qatar and possibly cost the lives of thousands more people, do you want all future World Cups cancelled until all countries can live in perfect harmony or do you want FIFA to take matters outside of football and their tournament (such as politics and war) into their remit when selecting a venue from a very select group of countries (which will all probably have very little history or infrastructure)?

What purpose do FIFA serve that could not be fulfilled or replaced by a new organisation set up by actual football people?

With all your talk about illegal wars MUDD, you must have been going spare when Germany got the 2006 World Cup.

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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 44 seconds ago
With all your talk about illegal wars MUDD, you must have been going spare when Germany got the 2006 World Cup.
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What about the Winter Olympics in Norway in 1994

All that raping and pillaging just swept under the carpet

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comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
With all your talk about illegal wars MUDD, you must have been going spare when Germany got the 2006 World Cup.
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Unlike you guys I have not set up criteria as to what is a good or bad host

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comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
With all your talk about illegal wars MUDD, you must have been going spare when Germany got the 2006 World Cup.
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Unlike you guys I have not set up criteria as to what is a good or bad host
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Fifa do/did though (appropriate host).

Whether we feel Qatar is a suitable country or not is irrelevant, Fifa themselves deemed Qatar to be unsuitable.

For me that is the fundamental point here. If Fifa initially concluded (after their relevant stress tests) that Qatar was an appropriate candidate then fair enough. They didn’t.