comment by itsonlyagame - #freeSanti (U6426)
posted 4 minutes ago
Didn't United concede the fewest shots on goal in the league this year?
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That is correct.
no way, De Gea was saving shot after shot, I don't care if you have stats I have memories.
They did, at least according to whoscored: 10.1 per game vs 8 for Barça.
Suppose that doesn't account for crosses though, and Valdés hasn't played in La Liga since Moyes went there.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 28 seconds ago
no way, De Gea was saving shot after shot, I don't care if you have stats I have memories.
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Memories are selective though.
official is a subjective term depending on who it stating it to be official.
Tbh though, that's total shots, not shots on goal.
That said, Barça tend to leave more space at the back, so I'd imagine that of they few shots they do face, a fairly high proportion will be on target.
VV would be a great back up keeper, but with you having CL (should you qualify) and with you having to challenge for the title to justify the spending you need a better keeper.
On a broader topic, it's amusing how people have been saying for years how poorly Barça defend, yet year after year they post some of the best defensive stats in Europe.
Their midfield does the defending. This season their attack did most of the defending from the front.
they keep the ball for such long periods, it's fairly obvious why they have a decent record.
Of course. What's interesting is how that approach still isn't generally viewed as "defending", when it's proven in recent years to be one of the best approaches to prevent goals.
comment by the GINGER PRINCE'S apprentice (U13920)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
We have one of the best keepers in the world who will be Spain's number 1 for many years.
So can someone give me 1 benefit of selling to Madrid unless they are prepared to pay silly money?
The positives of not selling are as follows
1) Madrid and most importantly all players joining utd will realise we are not a spring board for them to join Madrid
2)Utd are about the only club that can take the financial repercussionin their stride so if they don't stand up the Epl will continue to lose its world class players to Madrid/bar a
3)a year is a long time, anything can happen. Change of heart, Madrid ban, god forbid injury or loss of form for ddg. Will Madrid still be in a position or want to sign him?
4) the whole world is watching and expecting utd to bend over, I honestly can't think of a stronger statement of intent than going out and buying another top keeper and benching ddg if Madrid try to short change us or ddg does a Gareth bale and demands to leave
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Been saying this since. There is not one benefit in getting rid. Considering all the plebs who tell us constantly that money is not an issue. There is literally no money worth selling ddg right now. Nothing worse than bringing in a new keeper and having to bed him in. We have qualifiers, and a key season ahead to make sure we do not drop out of the top 4 like the liverpools and spurs of the league. Imagine a goalie going true a taibi first season or even de gea like first season. Not even schmicheals settled quickly. We could be 10th and done if a keeper lets in a few soft ones. Not worth it. We should be telling him he is not going, simple as. That is the whole point of a contract and having the financial leverage we have.
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by the GINGER PRINCE'S apprentice (U13920)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
We have one of the best keepers in the world who will be Spain's number 1 for many years.
So can someone give me 1 benefit of selling to Madrid unless they are prepared to pay silly money?
The positives of not selling are as follows
1) Madrid and most importantly all players joining utd will realise we are not a spring board for them to join Madrid
2)Utd are about the only club that can take the financial repercussionin their stride so if they don't stand up the Epl will continue to lose its world class players to Madrid/bar a
3)a year is a long time, anything can happen. Change of heart, Madrid ban, god forbid injury or loss of form for ddg. Will Madrid still be in a position or want to sign him?
4) the whole world is watching and expecting utd to bend over, I honestly can't think of a stronger statement of intent than going out and buying another top keeper and benching ddg if Madrid try to short change us or ddg does a Gareth bale and demands to leave
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Been saying this since. There is not one benefit in getting rid. Considering all the plebs who tell us constantly that money is not an issue. There is literally no money worth selling ddg right now. Nothing worse than bringing in a new keeper and having to bed him in. We have qualifiers, and a key season ahead to make sure we do not drop out of the top 4 like the liverpools and spurs of the league. Imagine a goalie going true a taibi first season or even de gea like first season. Not even schmicheals settled quickly. We could be 10th and done if a keeper lets in a few soft ones. Not worth it. We should be telling him he is not going, simple as. That is the whole point of a contract and having the financial leverage we have.
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And the chances are, if he doesn't go to Madrid this summer, I think he'll sign a new contract. I don't think he's unhappy at United, just that he would prefer to go to Madrid now for family reasons as much as any.
I'd want £40m for him to let him go this summer. If Madrid don't come up with it then I'd keep him.
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posted on 4/6/15
comment by itsonlyagame - #freeSanti (U6426)
posted 4 minutes ago
Didn't United concede the fewest shots on goal in the league this year?
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That is correct.
posted on 4/6/15
no way, De Gea was saving shot after shot, I don't care if you have stats I have memories.
posted on 4/6/15
They did, at least according to whoscored: 10.1 per game vs 8 for Barça.
Suppose that doesn't account for crosses though, and Valdés hasn't played in La Liga since Moyes went there.
posted on 4/6/15
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 28 seconds ago
no way, De Gea was saving shot after shot, I don't care if you have stats I have memories.
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Memories are selective though.
posted on 4/6/15
so are Hafi's stats
posted on 4/6/15
It's an official stat.
posted on 4/6/15
official is a subjective term depending on who it stating it to be official.
posted on 4/6/15
Tbh though, that's total shots, not shots on goal.
That said, Barça tend to leave more space at the back, so I'd imagine that of they few shots they do face, a fairly high proportion will be on target.
posted on 4/6/15
VV would be a great back up keeper, but with you having CL (should you qualify) and with you having to challenge for the title to justify the spending you need a better keeper.
posted on 4/6/15
On a broader topic, it's amusing how people have been saying for years how poorly Barça defend, yet year after year they post some of the best defensive stats in Europe.
posted on 4/6/15
Their midfield does the defending. This season their attack did most of the defending from the front.
posted on 4/6/15
they keep the ball for such long periods, it's fairly obvious why they have a decent record.
posted on 4/6/15
Of course. What's interesting is how that approach still isn't generally viewed as "defending", when it's proven in recent years to be one of the best approaches to prevent goals.
posted on 4/6/15
comment by the GINGER PRINCE'S apprentice (U13920)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
We have one of the best keepers in the world who will be Spain's number 1 for many years.
So can someone give me 1 benefit of selling to Madrid unless they are prepared to pay silly money?
The positives of not selling are as follows
1) Madrid and most importantly all players joining utd will realise we are not a spring board for them to join Madrid
2)Utd are about the only club that can take the financial repercussionin their stride so if they don't stand up the Epl will continue to lose its world class players to Madrid/bar a
3)a year is a long time, anything can happen. Change of heart, Madrid ban, god forbid injury or loss of form for ddg. Will Madrid still be in a position or want to sign him?
4) the whole world is watching and expecting utd to bend over, I honestly can't think of a stronger statement of intent than going out and buying another top keeper and benching ddg if Madrid try to short change us or ddg does a Gareth bale and demands to leave
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Been saying this since. There is not one benefit in getting rid. Considering all the plebs who tell us constantly that money is not an issue. There is literally no money worth selling ddg right now. Nothing worse than bringing in a new keeper and having to bed him in. We have qualifiers, and a key season ahead to make sure we do not drop out of the top 4 like the liverpools and spurs of the league. Imagine a goalie going true a taibi first season or even de gea like first season. Not even schmicheals settled quickly. We could be 10th and done if a keeper lets in a few soft ones. Not worth it. We should be telling him he is not going, simple as. That is the whole point of a contract and having the financial leverage we have.
posted on 4/6/15
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by the GINGER PRINCE'S apprentice (U13920)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
We have one of the best keepers in the world who will be Spain's number 1 for many years.
So can someone give me 1 benefit of selling to Madrid unless they are prepared to pay silly money?
The positives of not selling are as follows
1) Madrid and most importantly all players joining utd will realise we are not a spring board for them to join Madrid
2)Utd are about the only club that can take the financial repercussionin their stride so if they don't stand up the Epl will continue to lose its world class players to Madrid/bar a
3)a year is a long time, anything can happen. Change of heart, Madrid ban, god forbid injury or loss of form for ddg. Will Madrid still be in a position or want to sign him?
4) the whole world is watching and expecting utd to bend over, I honestly can't think of a stronger statement of intent than going out and buying another top keeper and benching ddg if Madrid try to short change us or ddg does a Gareth bale and demands to leave
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Been saying this since. There is not one benefit in getting rid. Considering all the plebs who tell us constantly that money is not an issue. There is literally no money worth selling ddg right now. Nothing worse than bringing in a new keeper and having to bed him in. We have qualifiers, and a key season ahead to make sure we do not drop out of the top 4 like the liverpools and spurs of the league. Imagine a goalie going true a taibi first season or even de gea like first season. Not even schmicheals settled quickly. We could be 10th and done if a keeper lets in a few soft ones. Not worth it. We should be telling him he is not going, simple as. That is the whole point of a contract and having the financial leverage we have.
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And the chances are, if he doesn't go to Madrid this summer, I think he'll sign a new contract. I don't think he's unhappy at United, just that he would prefer to go to Madrid now for family reasons as much as any.
I'd want £40m for him to let him go this summer. If Madrid don't come up with it then I'd keep him.
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