He's worth whatever a team values him at. That's how it works.
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 1 minute ago
He's worth whatever a team values him at. That's how it works.
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Andy Carroll was worth the 35m you paid for him?
I won't mind if we sign Raheem but I can't see Wenger ever doing business with those morons at anfield after the Suarez debacle.
comment by Ramböue (U12551)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 1 minute ago
He's worth whatever a team values him at. That's how it works.
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Andy Carroll was worth the 35m you paid for him?
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He was to Kenny
If thise mugs paid over 30 mil for mangala i dont see why they won pay over the odd for sterling
If Ozil was worth £40+mil in the eyes of some, why is a more exciting player, with time on his side, valued less?
comment by Goofy One (U16087)
posted 5 minutes ago
If thise mugs paid over 30 mil for mangala i dont see why they won pay over the odd for sterling
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City are mugs but also have bought good players, add unlimited cash and you end up with Mangala plus Silva and Aguero plus the two Fernandos😀
comment by TUX (U5315)
posted 2 minutes ago
If Ozil was worth £40+mil in the eyes of some, why is a more exciting player, with time on his side, valued less?
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Ozil is from Real while Sterling is from Jamaica.
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 19 minutes ago
He's worth whatever a team values him at. That's how it works.
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Can people stop repeating this cliche. We aren't talking about what he's worth to anyone else, but to general public.
Sterling isn't worth more than 25mill. He's an exciting young player with bundles of potential, that at this stage looks like it could be hit or miss.
At the moment id say about £30m would be a reasonable price for him. There'll be an excess on that if another premier league team want him - he'll probably end up going to City for around £40m.
Really don't know why some are so surprised at this. English players are generally overhyped, but when a genuinely talented one like Sterling does come through there seems to be a tendency to beat them down.
I'd agree with that Bloodred, I think its a counter to the English media.
So the media will hugely overrate an English player and then as a counter to that large groups of fans underrate English players....
As if that somehow makes it better, just judge them accurately who cares if the papers are wrong regarding their ability.
Potentially he's very good but he's also a potential flop and moreso than many think.
Having talent is one thing but you also need the right attitude, in fact being more driven than necessarily talented will often take players higher in their career.
Stirling has already shown his unprofessional side and for me his career could easily be wasted due to his attitude problems. Worth a risk to some I'm sure but I'd be livid if Arsenal paid anything more than 15m for him.
The English premium. Think about it, Reus, who is the top player in vastly more accomplished side had a buyout of £20 million. The "he is worth what they pay" is crap. Swansea just got Ayew for free, probably on lower wages than Sterling. When Real spend obscene sums for a player, it is with the goal of winning titles in mind. What the hell are City doing? Fernando, Bony, Mangala, Sagna, wtf is the goal?
comment by The Delusion Swatter (U19684)
posted 5 minutes ago
Potentially he's very good but he's also a potential flop and moreso than many think.
Having talent is one thing but you also need the right attitude, in fact being more driven than necessarily talented will often take players higher in their career.
Stirling has already shown his unprofessional side and for me his career could easily be wasted due to his attitude problems. Worth a risk to some I'm sure but I'd be livid if Arsenal paid anything more than 15m for him.
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Yes, wouldn't pay more than Arsenal paid for Ox.
£50m please. Ta.
Dunno why gooners are all het up about it. Got nothing to do with you.
Is his bad attitude anything more than not signing a new contract at Liverpool?
Because I wouldn't criticise a player just for being ambitious, that is exactly what you want your players to be.
comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine(7) (U5768)
posted 8 minutes ago
Is his bad attitude anything more than not signing a new contract at Liverpool?
Because I wouldn't criticise a player just for being ambitious, that is exactly what you want your players to be.
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No.
comment by The Delusion Swatter (U19684)
posted 1 second ago
comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine(7) (U5768)
posted 8 minutes ago
Is his bad attitude anything more than not signing a new contract at Liverpool?
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Yes.
I feel like your giving me mixed messages here Swatter
Homegrown players will get more expensive with the new quotas coming in soon. Sterling's become underrated in the last few months, 35-40m is about right with the market how it is now.
comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine(7) (U5768)
posted 2 minutes ago
I feel like your giving me mixed messages here Swatter
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Maybe
But seriously I personally think he has attitude problems beyond not wanting to stay with Liverpool and I really wouldn't want him at my club.
We don't have to sell, so if we do sell we have all the leverage in this transaction.
As a previous poster says, the Sterling saga has nothing to do with Arsenal as they couldn't afford what we'd demand.
Okay that's fair, aside from the whole contract thing with Liverpool though the only other bad stuff I can remember hearing about him was having loads of potential kids about the place (which isn't particularly a problem for me anyway as long as it didn't distract him) and I am fairly sure it turned out the kids weren't his.
comment by 李贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don�... (U3979)
posted 24 minutes ago
We don't have to sell, so if we do sell we have all the leverage in this transaction.
As a previous poster says, the Sterling saga has nothing to do with Arsenal as they couldn't afford what we'd demand.
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Actually we could afford it. We just wouldn't be idiotic enough to pay such an obscene price for a player who isn't worth anything even remotely close to the price Liverpool are rumored to want.
Think he's been caught smoking as well, though plenty have I suppose. The conduct of Stirling over the contract is a big sign he has the wrong attitude, is taking very bad advice from someone or worst of all both. Only those close to him will know but from the outside, it doesn't look good. He's not even got a career yet but already considers himself important enough to be arranging interviews to say his piece. What next? Will he be calling his own press conferences. Potentially a great player yes. But he also looks potentially a bloody nightmare.
I Don't know why everybody is flipping over the price. It's not like LFC have set it there because they actually believe he's worth it. And I seriously doubt they think anyone is actually going to pay it this summer. We all know that given what you could buy, 50 million for Raheem is just plain madness. That's the whole point. Liverpool want to keep him.
I think the saddest thing about all this is that the stupid little twerp doesn't have the nouse to see that staying put is the best chance he's got of realising his potential. This is when someone like Gerrard needs to be pulling him aside and telling him his agent is full of bull and his career is far more likely to suffer than bloom if he leaves the club now. The kid comes across as though he thinks he'll be a starter at whichever Champions League team signs him. When in reality he's 2nd or 3rd in the pecking order at all of them (English ones anyway). He needs someone to get his head out of the clouds of his own hype and face him up to the reality that he's bench-warming hard, at any of the Champion's league teams he'd sign for.
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posted on 11/6/15
He's worth whatever a team values him at. That's how it works.
posted on 11/6/15
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 1 minute ago
He's worth whatever a team values him at. That's how it works.
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Andy Carroll was worth the 35m you paid for him?
posted on 11/6/15
I won't mind if we sign Raheem but I can't see Wenger ever doing business with those morons at anfield after the Suarez debacle.
posted on 11/6/15
comment by Ramböue (U12551)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 1 minute ago
He's worth whatever a team values him at. That's how it works.
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Andy Carroll was worth the 35m you paid for him?
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He was to Kenny
posted on 11/6/15
If thise mugs paid over 30 mil for mangala i dont see why they won pay over the odd for sterling
posted on 11/6/15
If Ozil was worth £40+mil in the eyes of some, why is a more exciting player, with time on his side, valued less?
posted on 11/6/15
comment by Goofy One (U16087)
posted 5 minutes ago
If thise mugs paid over 30 mil for mangala i dont see why they won pay over the odd for sterling
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City are mugs but also have bought good players, add unlimited cash and you end up with Mangala plus Silva and Aguero plus the two Fernandos😀
posted on 11/6/15
comment by TUX (U5315)
posted 2 minutes ago
If Ozil was worth £40+mil in the eyes of some, why is a more exciting player, with time on his side, valued less?
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Ozil is from Real while Sterling is from Jamaica.
posted on 11/6/15
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 19 minutes ago
He's worth whatever a team values him at. That's how it works.
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Can people stop repeating this cliche. We aren't talking about what he's worth to anyone else, but to general public.
Sterling isn't worth more than 25mill. He's an exciting young player with bundles of potential, that at this stage looks like it could be hit or miss.
posted on 11/6/15
At the moment id say about £30m would be a reasonable price for him. There'll be an excess on that if another premier league team want him - he'll probably end up going to City for around £40m.
Really don't know why some are so surprised at this. English players are generally overhyped, but when a genuinely talented one like Sterling does come through there seems to be a tendency to beat them down.
posted on 11/6/15
I'd agree with that Bloodred, I think its a counter to the English media.
So the media will hugely overrate an English player and then as a counter to that large groups of fans underrate English players....
As if that somehow makes it better, just judge them accurately who cares if the papers are wrong regarding their ability.
posted on 11/6/15
Potentially he's very good but he's also a potential flop and moreso than many think.
Having talent is one thing but you also need the right attitude, in fact being more driven than necessarily talented will often take players higher in their career.
Stirling has already shown his unprofessional side and for me his career could easily be wasted due to his attitude problems. Worth a risk to some I'm sure but I'd be livid if Arsenal paid anything more than 15m for him.
posted on 11/6/15
The English premium. Think about it, Reus, who is the top player in vastly more accomplished side had a buyout of £20 million. The "he is worth what they pay" is crap. Swansea just got Ayew for free, probably on lower wages than Sterling. When Real spend obscene sums for a player, it is with the goal of winning titles in mind. What the hell are City doing? Fernando, Bony, Mangala, Sagna, wtf is the goal?
posted on 11/6/15
comment by The Delusion Swatter (U19684)
posted 5 minutes ago
Potentially he's very good but he's also a potential flop and moreso than many think.
Having talent is one thing but you also need the right attitude, in fact being more driven than necessarily talented will often take players higher in their career.
Stirling has already shown his unprofessional side and for me his career could easily be wasted due to his attitude problems. Worth a risk to some I'm sure but I'd be livid if Arsenal paid anything more than 15m for him.
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Yes, wouldn't pay more than Arsenal paid for Ox.
posted on 12/6/15
£50m please. Ta.
Dunno why gooners are all het up about it. Got nothing to do with you.
posted on 12/6/15
Is his bad attitude anything more than not signing a new contract at Liverpool?
Because I wouldn't criticise a player just for being ambitious, that is exactly what you want your players to be.
posted on 12/6/15
comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine(7) (U5768)
posted 8 minutes ago
Is his bad attitude anything more than not signing a new contract at Liverpool?
Because I wouldn't criticise a player just for being ambitious, that is exactly what you want your players to be.
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No.
posted on 12/6/15
comment by The Delusion Swatter (U19684)
posted 1 second ago
comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine(7) (U5768)
posted 8 minutes ago
Is his bad attitude anything more than not signing a new contract at Liverpool?
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Yes.
posted on 12/6/15
I feel like your giving me mixed messages here Swatter
posted on 12/6/15
Homegrown players will get more expensive with the new quotas coming in soon. Sterling's become underrated in the last few months, 35-40m is about right with the market how it is now.
posted on 12/6/15
comment by SAF_The_Legend-FreePalestine(7) (U5768)
posted 2 minutes ago
I feel like your giving me mixed messages here Swatter
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Maybe
But seriously I personally think he has attitude problems beyond not wanting to stay with Liverpool and I really wouldn't want him at my club.
posted on 12/6/15
We don't have to sell, so if we do sell we have all the leverage in this transaction.
As a previous poster says, the Sterling saga has nothing to do with Arsenal as they couldn't afford what we'd demand.
posted on 12/6/15
Okay that's fair, aside from the whole contract thing with Liverpool though the only other bad stuff I can remember hearing about him was having loads of potential kids about the place (which isn't particularly a problem for me anyway as long as it didn't distract him) and I am fairly sure it turned out the kids weren't his.
posted on 12/6/15
comment by 李贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don�... (U3979)
posted 24 minutes ago
We don't have to sell, so if we do sell we have all the leverage in this transaction.
As a previous poster says, the Sterling saga has nothing to do with Arsenal as they couldn't afford what we'd demand.
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Actually we could afford it. We just wouldn't be idiotic enough to pay such an obscene price for a player who isn't worth anything even remotely close to the price Liverpool are rumored to want.
posted on 12/6/15
Think he's been caught smoking as well, though plenty have I suppose. The conduct of Stirling over the contract is a big sign he has the wrong attitude, is taking very bad advice from someone or worst of all both. Only those close to him will know but from the outside, it doesn't look good. He's not even got a career yet but already considers himself important enough to be arranging interviews to say his piece. What next? Will he be calling his own press conferences. Potentially a great player yes. But he also looks potentially a bloody nightmare.
I Don't know why everybody is flipping over the price. It's not like LFC have set it there because they actually believe he's worth it. And I seriously doubt they think anyone is actually going to pay it this summer. We all know that given what you could buy, 50 million for Raheem is just plain madness. That's the whole point. Liverpool want to keep him.
I think the saddest thing about all this is that the stupid little twerp doesn't have the nouse to see that staying put is the best chance he's got of realising his potential. This is when someone like Gerrard needs to be pulling him aside and telling him his agent is full of bull and his career is far more likely to suffer than bloom if he leaves the club now. The kid comes across as though he thinks he'll be a starter at whichever Champions League team signs him. When in reality he's 2nd or 3rd in the pecking order at all of them (English ones anyway). He needs someone to get his head out of the clouds of his own hype and face him up to the reality that he's bench-warming hard, at any of the Champion's league teams he'd sign for.
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