Problem is, a back up would be expensive, a gamble or awful.
Thing is if we buy no DM the guy will probably get injured in early Sept and is out for 2/3 of the season, then we'll have to put up with the woeful Flamini or a sluggish Arteta in there.
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 1 minute ago
Thing is if we buy no DM the guy will probably get injured in early Sept and is out for 2/3 of the season, then we'll have to put up with the woeful Flamini or a sluggish Arteta in there.
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This. We still need another one regardless of what Coq cost us.
I think that if he can stay fit, Mr Wenger will consider using Jack Wilshere in the deep role. Especially at home against lower table clubs. Arteta is still an option, but I cannot see Mr Wenger using Flamini.
Do you guys rate Willian Carvalho.
Named man of the match in Portugal's under 21 5-0 humiliation of the Germans but still not convinced .
There is a lazy approach to his work and his recovery stamina seem suspect.
Is he worth a punt at £25million?
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
I think that if he can stay fit, Mr Wenger will consider using Jack Wilshere in the deep role. Especially at home against lower table clubs. Arteta is still an option, but I cannot see Mr Wenger using Flamini.
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Agree that After a will get game time and Flamini won't assuming all are fit. Wouldn't be entirely surpised if we saw Arteta and Coquelin start together on occasion.
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*Arteta will get game time and Flamini won't
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hyp... (U7978)
posted 1 minute ago
Do you guys rate Willian Carvalho.
Named man of the match in Portugal's under 21 5-0 humiliation of the Germans but still not convinced .
There is a lazy approach to his work and his recovery stamina seem suspect.
Is he worth a punt at £25million?
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MOTM?? Whoever gave him that needs to give up.
He is decent, but nothing special imo. Can see him struggling in the PL, definitely a lot of question marks over his stamina, ability to cover the ground, passing ability, ball control and even his reading of the game.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hyp... (U7978)
posted 1 minute ago
Do you guys rate Willian Carvalho.
Named man of the match in Portugal's under 21 5-0 humiliation of the Germans but still not convinced .
There is a lazy approach to his work and his recovery stamina seem suspect.
Is he worth a punt at £25million?
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MOTM?? Whoever gave him that needs to give up.
He is decent, but nothing special imo. Can see him struggling in the PL, definitely a lot of question marks over his stamina, ability to cover the ground, passing ability, ball control and even his reading of the game.
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Can't agree more.
May be an internal solution then .
Hope he is luckier with injuries because I rate Hayden both as a CB and DM.
Mahttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aaxmeWST5s8y
Is artetas contract up this summer? Or has he signed one already? Remember there being talk he was signing one, but can't remember an announcement
What I don't understand about the OP is that he wants a DM, but us not to spend on one.
Who does he think we will get? Tom Huddlestone or Joey Barton maybe?
Why do you want someone as backup? Surely unless you've got absolute top quality in a position, you should look to get something as good or better? He did well for you but he's not top-notch is he?
comment by Big Willy-Sanchez..Big name players don't... (U1100)
posted 24 seconds ago
So you dont consider Kane top notch then ?
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Not sure the relevance of this to the discussion, tbh.
definitely a lot of question marks over his stamina, ability to cover the ground, passing ability, ball control and even his reading of the game.
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Yeah but apart from that.......
I have been a big fan of Coq but no way can you put all your eggs in one basket. Coq distribution has to improve before you can say he is the answer. 6 months of doing well does make him proven. If you think back we gave Flamini a two year extension because of a good 6 months. What do ppl think of Flamini now?
I believe it will be very very risky if we go into next season with present holding player lineup. One injury to Coq or a drop in form and it will be back to Flamini/Arteta.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Big Willy-Sanchez..Big name players don't... (U1100)
posted 24 seconds ago
So you dont consider Kane top notch then ?
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Not sure the relevance of this to the discussion, tbh.
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He's good but ideally I'd like to buy someone as good as or better. Annoying as it is to admit, you've got more finance and lure to go and attract top quality whereas we don't.
We need a back-up for Coq, but not a player who will demand a guaranteed starting berth. It would be awful to dump Coq to the bench and ruin his development.
comment by Andre's Samba Scarf (U6253)
posted 9 seconds ago
Javi Martinez
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To take over Diaby?
We need to win now. As much as I like Coq to continue developing I wouldn't want it at the expense of the premier league title.
I will take Lars Bender in a heartbeat.
Can play with Coq in a double pivot or as an alternative to the Frenchman.
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Andre's Samba Scarf (U6253)
posted 9 seconds ago
Javi Martinez
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To take over Diaby?
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We need to be buying first team quality, match winning players. Not back-ups of average quality just to make up the numbers. People forget that we play 40-60 games a season, when was the last time we had a midfielder that could stay fit and on form for 75% of those?
If Coq had cost 30mil, I would definitely be suggesting we spent 20m still... unless obvious quality became available for less of course.
The bottom line is that if it takes 20mil to improve our midfield, we should pay it. It has nothing to do with Coqs price tag.
Coq is good enough to keep the DM spot. However we need to players of his level (or very close to) at DM otherwise it's one injury and we're struggling for fourth again.
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posted on 28/6/15
Problem is, a back up would be expensive, a gamble or awful.
posted on 28/6/15
Thing is if we buy no DM the guy will probably get injured in early Sept and is out for 2/3 of the season, then we'll have to put up with the woeful Flamini or a sluggish Arteta in there.
posted on 28/6/15
comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 1 minute ago
Thing is if we buy no DM the guy will probably get injured in early Sept and is out for 2/3 of the season, then we'll have to put up with the woeful Flamini or a sluggish Arteta in there.
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This. We still need another one regardless of what Coq cost us.
posted on 28/6/15
I think that if he can stay fit, Mr Wenger will consider using Jack Wilshere in the deep role. Especially at home against lower table clubs. Arteta is still an option, but I cannot see Mr Wenger using Flamini.
posted on 28/6/15
Do you guys rate Willian Carvalho.
Named man of the match in Portugal's under 21 5-0 humiliation of the Germans but still not convinced .
There is a lazy approach to his work and his recovery stamina seem suspect.
Is he worth a punt at £25million?
posted on 28/6/15
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
I think that if he can stay fit, Mr Wenger will consider using Jack Wilshere in the deep role. Especially at home against lower table clubs. Arteta is still an option, but I cannot see Mr Wenger using Flamini.
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Agree that After a will get game time and Flamini won't assuming all are fit. Wouldn't be entirely surpised if we saw Arteta and Coquelin start together on occasion.
posted on 28/6/15
Autocorrect
*Arteta will get game time and Flamini won't
posted on 28/6/15
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hyp... (U7978)
posted 1 minute ago
Do you guys rate Willian Carvalho.
Named man of the match in Portugal's under 21 5-0 humiliation of the Germans but still not convinced .
There is a lazy approach to his work and his recovery stamina seem suspect.
Is he worth a punt at £25million?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
MOTM?? Whoever gave him that needs to give up.
He is decent, but nothing special imo. Can see him struggling in the PL, definitely a lot of question marks over his stamina, ability to cover the ground, passing ability, ball control and even his reading of the game.
posted on 28/6/15
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hyp... (U7978)
posted 1 minute ago
Do you guys rate Willian Carvalho.
Named man of the match in Portugal's under 21 5-0 humiliation of the Germans but still not convinced .
There is a lazy approach to his work and his recovery stamina seem suspect.
Is he worth a punt at £25million?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
MOTM?? Whoever gave him that needs to give up.
He is decent, but nothing special imo. Can see him struggling in the PL, definitely a lot of question marks over his stamina, ability to cover the ground, passing ability, ball control and even his reading of the game.
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Can't agree more.
May be an internal solution then .
Hope he is luckier with injuries because I rate Hayden both as a CB and DM.
Mahttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aaxmeWST5s8y
posted on 28/6/15
Is artetas contract up this summer? Or has he signed one already? Remember there being talk he was signing one, but can't remember an announcement
posted on 28/6/15
What I don't understand about the OP is that he wants a DM, but us not to spend on one.
Who does he think we will get? Tom Huddlestone or Joey Barton maybe?
posted on 28/6/15
Why do you want someone as backup? Surely unless you've got absolute top quality in a position, you should look to get something as good or better? He did well for you but he's not top-notch is he?
posted on 28/6/15
posted on 28/6/15
comment by Big Willy-Sanchez..Big name players don't... (U1100)
posted 24 seconds ago
So you dont consider Kane top notch then ?
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Not sure the relevance of this to the discussion, tbh.
posted on 28/6/15
definitely a lot of question marks over his stamina, ability to cover the ground, passing ability, ball control and even his reading of the game.
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Yeah but apart from that.......
posted on 28/6/15
I have been a big fan of Coq but no way can you put all your eggs in one basket. Coq distribution has to improve before you can say he is the answer. 6 months of doing well does make him proven. If you think back we gave Flamini a two year extension because of a good 6 months. What do ppl think of Flamini now?
I believe it will be very very risky if we go into next season with present holding player lineup. One injury to Coq or a drop in form and it will be back to Flamini/Arteta.
posted on 28/6/15
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Big Willy-Sanchez..Big name players don't... (U1100)
posted 24 seconds ago
So you dont consider Kane top notch then ?
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Not sure the relevance of this to the discussion, tbh.
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He's good but ideally I'd like to buy someone as good as or better. Annoying as it is to admit, you've got more finance and lure to go and attract top quality whereas we don't.
posted on 28/6/15
We need a back-up for Coq, but not a player who will demand a guaranteed starting berth. It would be awful to dump Coq to the bench and ruin his development.
posted on 28/6/15
Javi Martinez
posted on 28/6/15
comment by Andre's Samba Scarf (U6253)
posted 9 seconds ago
Javi Martinez
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To take over Diaby?
posted on 28/6/15
We need to win now. As much as I like Coq to continue developing I wouldn't want it at the expense of the premier league title.
posted on 28/6/15
I will take Lars Bender in a heartbeat.
Can play with Coq in a double pivot or as an alternative to the Frenchman.
posted on 28/6/15
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by Andre's Samba Scarf (U6253)
posted 9 seconds ago
Javi Martinez
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To take over Diaby?
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posted on 28/6/15
We need to be buying first team quality, match winning players. Not back-ups of average quality just to make up the numbers. People forget that we play 40-60 games a season, when was the last time we had a midfielder that could stay fit and on form for 75% of those?
If Coq had cost 30mil, I would definitely be suggesting we spent 20m still... unless obvious quality became available for less of course.
The bottom line is that if it takes 20mil to improve our midfield, we should pay it. It has nothing to do with Coqs price tag.
posted on 29/6/15
Coq is good enough to keep the DM spot. However we need to players of his level (or very close to) at DM otherwise it's one injury and we're struggling for fourth again.
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