No he isn't ideal. never heard of him before but i'm certain this guy isn't as good as Arteta and probably Flamini. He might be eventually but definitely not what we need now.

Name too long shirt won't sell

Savic seems to be as unproven as Beliek (sp).

If there is interest, and we did sign him, he would not be a player that would immediately challenge for a place in the first team squad.

Is a long way behind the established names you have mentioned, and indeed our existing options for the position.

If you would love Billy Carvalho then I would take your recommendation of this chappie as proof we should not sign him under any circumstance.

if we sign him by the time he is in his prime barca will sign him from us.

Sorry, but in such a crucial position experience is vital and coq is still young himself. Wenger hasn't got too long left to try to win the CL, surely he knows that.

carvahlho wouldn't be ready either he looks far too raw and I doubt he would a strong impact in his first season.

Carvalho certainly looks a fantastic prospect.

However given we have been linked to him for a couple of years and nothing was done, I'm very doubtful that we would now be interested. Especially at the price mooted.

He’s a pivotal player for Porto, and after being awarded the player of the tournament at the recent U21’s his value will have increased immeasurably.

He’s a pivotal player for Porto
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Yeah, in Sporting v Porto games that tends to be the case...

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
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He’s a pivotal player for Porto
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Yeah, in Sporting v Porto games that tends to be the case...
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He’s still a quality player – just not one I believe AW would now go after in view of his value, (circa £30m+).

Wasn't impressed with Carvalho in the European under -21 games I saw recently.
Question marks about his stamina and pace.
Don't want him at Arsenal.

What about Krystian Bielek? Supposed to be the white Viera

comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hype ! (U7978)
posted 42 minutes ago
Wasn't impressed with Carvalho in the European under -21 games I saw recently.
Question marks about his stamina and pace.
Don't want him at Arsenal.
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Maybe you were watching a different competition?

http://www.uefa.com/under21/news/newsid=2262774.html

Carvalho seems like another m'villa. Player we always gets linked with every summer. A set of people say he's quality, other set say he's overrated. He'll probably end up at some Russian club as well!

Can't sign overrated Carvalho because he's not as good a Coq and will expect to start given the money we'd spend.

Arteta at 33

Coq at 24

Bielik at 18

That fantastic succession planning. No way Arsene facks it up for some flash in the pan donkey

Dunno why I need to but "Donkey" is regarding his lack of ace.

Viviano's Debut

Far too early in Coq’s AFC career to start comparing him with others (for a long term solution anyway).

This time last year Arsenal were trying to offload him.

In regard to Carvalho he has been scouted by most of Europe’s elite over the last couple of years, and he is certainly more than a ‘flash in the pan’ as you have described.

Coquelin was consistently considered a future starter until his Freiburg loan. Up until that point he was progressing very well and impressed in every cameo he made for us. After his Freiburg loan he continued progressing.

It's not like he came out of nowhere.

comment by Giröulski Alt-153 and Alt-160 forever (U14971)
posted 31 minutes ago
Coquelin was consistently considered a future starter until his Freiburg loan. Up until that point he was progressing very well and impressed in every cameo he made for us. After his Freiburg loan he continued progressing.

It's not like he came out of nowhere.
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Exactly. Being played out of position by a manager that doesn't favour you wasn't exactly.

Arsene's gripe with him was he was too interested with the flashier side of the game. The runs, dribbling and skill moves when he was sure he was more Yaya toure than Gilberto.

Outgrew that. All good.

And why the fack won't I compare him with others. Nasri was good for less time and you all blew your tops when we sold him for a profit.

If ANY player is good for half a season, it's no longer a purple patch. It's just quality.

Folks on here said similar stuff about Kos, Ramsey, Song.

Quit valuing performances for other teams in shiite leagues over performances for your team in a superior league.

Injury allowing, I fully expect Coq to be a France starter at the coming Euro Championship.

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 17 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by ubad9jagooner .Ramsey : don't get the hype ! (U7978)
posted 42 minutes ago
Wasn't impressed with Carvalho in the European under -21 games I saw recently.
Question marks about his stamina and pace.
Don't want him at Arsenal.
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Maybe you were watching a different competition?

http://www.uefa.com/under21/news/newsid=2262774.html


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Saw him against Italy and Sweden and can only agree with ubad.
In both games Carvalho demonstrated that distribution was his greatest asset. Unfortunately, some key elements essential for a ball winning MF were conspicuously lacking in his game.
He is not particularly mobile and does not compensate that with sound positional sense. Meaning he does not cover his area of responsibility and misses a big part of the challenges he should make because he simply is not where he is needed.
He is not particularly strong in the tackle in the 50-50s he manages not to miss - surprisingly, he looks quite feeble for his build.

I have no idea why Carvalho was given this individual award. Berardi was head and shoulders above almost everyone in the tournament ability wise.

Same reason Messi was given the award at the recent World Cup.
Bernardo Silva, Ivan Cavaleiro and Joao Mario were all far more influential for Portugal (and better than Berardi who was a massive disappointment for me.)

Isn’t Berardi a winger/attacking player? Not really an appropriate comparison to Carvalho.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting at 23, Carvalho is the finished article. However he certainly would offer more of a challenge to Coq for a place in the side than either Arteta or Flamini in the short and long term.

I know Steve Rowley has had him watched extensively over the last couple of years but would be surprised if AW now bid for him. Especially given he could have signed him previously, and considerably less than his current market value.

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Well he wasn't very good against Sweden or Portugal...

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