Is this just money spent or is it net spend?
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 seconds ago
Is this just money spent or is it net spend?
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Looks like money spent to me, otherwise Arsenal's would be significantly lower, even in the negative.
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comment by TikiTakaFootball49 (U17636)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 seconds ago
Is this just money spent or is it net spend?
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Looks like money spent to me, otherwise Arsenal's would be significantly lower, even in the negative.
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Yeah Arsenal have been excellent on that front.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 34 seconds ago
Also you have Liverpool as winning two trophies between 97 and 2002 but in 2001 alone we won five. Did you make all of this up?
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You won 3 in 2001 not 5. Major trophies only.
Imo simple really. Spending doesnt ensure success but not spending is a sure way to fail. Arsenal limited their spending and it showed. Recently they have started to pay out again and cups are beginning to be within reach.
You've missed of a league cup and a Europa cup from LFC.
Just sayin.
comment by TikiTakaFootball49 (U17636)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 34 seconds ago
Also you have Liverpool as winning two trophies between 97 and 2002 but in 2001 alone we won five. Did you make all of this up?
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You won 3 in 2001 not 5. Major trophies only.
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There's no mention of it being only major trophies. I'm not sure why those considered not major don't count either. Seems all very selective to me.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by TikiTakaFootball49 (U17636)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 34 seconds ago
Also you have Liverpool as winning two trophies between 97 and 2002 but in 2001 alone we won five. Did you make all of this up?
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You won 3 in 2001 not 5. Major trophies only.
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There's no mention of it being only major trophies. I'm not sure why those considered not major don't count either. Seems all very selective to me.
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You won the League Cup, UEFA Cup and FA Cup treble in 2001. They are all that count. The others are equivalent to the Asia Trophy that Arsenal have just won or an Emirates Cup. They don't count.
The only trophies that should be counted are CL, PL, FA Cup, League Cup and Europa League/Uefa Cup.
Winning stuff like the community shield is nice and all but it's doesn't bother you much if your team loses.
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He may have missed Chelsea's Europa League title as well.
If you're talking 'spend v success' then why limit your post to only 5 teams?
Your definition of 'success' would help.
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 8 minutes ago
The only trophies that should be counted are CL, PL, FA Cup, League Cup and Europa League/Uefa Cup.
Winning stuff like the community shield is nice and all but it's doesn't bother you much if your team loses.
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Why does anybody bother playing in them if they don't count?
Look, I take your points. If I've missed one off, then my apologies. It's not been done on purpose, but if you continue to post sarcastic comments, then I'll just delete them.
Like I said in the introduction, if you bothered to read it, I've said it's PL, CL, FA LC.....not Europa Leagues, Community shields etc.
I've not posted this as a City fan to antagonise any fan of any club, just ask a simple question.
Maybe the facts aren't to your liking and you'd like me to manipulate to show you in a better light? If so, I could have done that for City, as for me, it shows that since we've actually had money to compete, we've won trophies. I wanted to ask if that is true of all clubs and are there any trends when it comes to spending.
Up to you.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 8 minutes ago
The only trophies that should be counted are CL, PL, FA Cup, League Cup and Europa League/Uefa Cup.
Winning stuff like the community shield is nice and all but it's doesn't bother you much if your team loses.
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Why does anybody bother playing in them if they don't count?
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Do you really think a one off game at the start of the season compares to winning any of the trophies I listed? I just don't think they should be taken into consideration when determining how successful a team has been.
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comment by raheemsnewtrophycleaner (U20585)
posted 1 minute ago
Look, I take your points. If I've missed one off, then my apologies. It's not been done on purpose, but if you continue to post sarcastic comments, then I'll just delete them.
Like I said in the introduction, if you bothered to read it, I've said it's PL, CL, FA LC.....not Europa Leagues, Community shields etc.
I've not posted this as a City fan to antagonise any fan of any club, just ask a simple question.
Maybe the facts aren't to your liking and you'd like me to manipulate to show you in a better light? If so, I could have done that for City, as for me, it shows that since we've actually had money to compete, we've won trophies. I wanted to ask if that is true of all clubs and are there any trends when it comes to spending.
Up to you.
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You have to include Europa Leagues/Uefa Cups way better trophy to win than the FA Cup or League Cup.
Why don't Europa Leagues count? Surely clubs in the Europa League spent the money you've posted(possibly made up) in order to compete in it? Not only that but it's widely considered on here that it's very difficult to compete in other competitions when you play in the Europa League yet when somebody wins it, and not only that, wins other trophies along with it, it doesn't count?
With that in mind, I'm out.
comment by TUX (U5315)
posted 3 minutes ago
If you're talking 'spend v success' then why limit your post to only 5 teams?
Your definition of 'success' would help.
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You define it? I'm sure we'd have LFC fans wanting every trophy prior to 1992 including - but as I mentioned, for ease of use, I've just taken 1992 - to the present.....isn't 23 years enough to demonstrate spend vs 'a definition of success?
We'd be all day arguing over what success means.
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 8 minutes ago
The only trophies that should be counted are CL, PL, FA Cup, League Cup and Europa League/Uefa Cup.
Winning stuff like the community shield is nice and all but it's doesn't bother you much if your team loses.
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Why does anybody bother playing in them if they don't count?
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Do you really think a one off game at the start of the season compares to winning any of the trophies I listed? I just don't think they should be taken into consideration when determining how successful a team has been.
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Do you really think I think they compare? What I'm stating is that it's ridiculous to say they don't count. I feel they do count and I was happy we won them. Each to their own.
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by raheemsnewtrophycleaner (U20585)
posted 1 minute ago
Look, I take your points. If I've missed one off, then my apologies. It's not been done on purpose, but if you continue to post sarcastic comments, then I'll just delete them.
Like I said in the introduction, if you bothered to read it, I've said it's PL, CL, FA LC.....not Europa Leagues, Community shields etc.
I've not posted this as a City fan to antagonise any fan of any club, just ask a simple question.
Maybe the facts aren't to your liking and you'd like me to manipulate to show you in a better light? If so, I could have done that for City, as for me, it shows that since we've actually had money to compete, we've won trophies. I wanted to ask if that is true of all clubs and are there any trends when it comes to spending.
Up to you.
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You have to include Europa Leagues/Uefa Cups way better trophy to win than the FA Cup or League Cup.
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Well I haven't.
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posted on 22/7/15
Arsenal.
posted on 22/7/15
Is this just money spent or is it net spend?
posted on 22/7/15
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 seconds ago
Is this just money spent or is it net spend?
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Looks like money spent to me, otherwise Arsenal's would be significantly lower, even in the negative.
posted on 22/7/15
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posted on 22/7/15
comment by TikiTakaFootball49 (U17636)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 4 seconds ago
Is this just money spent or is it net spend?
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Looks like money spent to me, otherwise Arsenal's would be significantly lower, even in the negative.
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Yeah Arsenal have been excellent on that front.
posted on 22/7/15
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 34 seconds ago
Also you have Liverpool as winning two trophies between 97 and 2002 but in 2001 alone we won five. Did you make all of this up?
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You won 3 in 2001 not 5. Major trophies only.
posted on 22/7/15
Imo simple really. Spending doesnt ensure success but not spending is a sure way to fail. Arsenal limited their spending and it showed. Recently they have started to pay out again and cups are beginning to be within reach.
posted on 22/7/15
You've missed of a league cup and a Europa cup from LFC.
Just sayin.
posted on 22/7/15
comment by TikiTakaFootball49 (U17636)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 34 seconds ago
Also you have Liverpool as winning two trophies between 97 and 2002 but in 2001 alone we won five. Did you make all of this up?
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You won 3 in 2001 not 5. Major trophies only.
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There's no mention of it being only major trophies. I'm not sure why those considered not major don't count either. Seems all very selective to me.
posted on 22/7/15
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by TikiTakaFootball49 (U17636)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 34 seconds ago
Also you have Liverpool as winning two trophies between 97 and 2002 but in 2001 alone we won five. Did you make all of this up?
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You won 3 in 2001 not 5. Major trophies only.
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There's no mention of it being only major trophies. I'm not sure why those considered not major don't count either. Seems all very selective to me.
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You won the League Cup, UEFA Cup and FA Cup treble in 2001. They are all that count. The others are equivalent to the Asia Trophy that Arsenal have just won or an Emirates Cup. They don't count.
posted on 22/7/15
The only trophies that should be counted are CL, PL, FA Cup, League Cup and Europa League/Uefa Cup.
Winning stuff like the community shield is nice and all but it's doesn't bother you much if your team loses.
posted on 22/7/15
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posted on 22/7/15
He may have missed Chelsea's Europa League title as well.
posted on 22/7/15
If you're talking 'spend v success' then why limit your post to only 5 teams?
Your definition of 'success' would help.
posted on 22/7/15
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 8 minutes ago
The only trophies that should be counted are CL, PL, FA Cup, League Cup and Europa League/Uefa Cup.
Winning stuff like the community shield is nice and all but it's doesn't bother you much if your team loses.
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Why does anybody bother playing in them if they don't count?
posted on 22/7/15
Look, I take your points. If I've missed one off, then my apologies. It's not been done on purpose, but if you continue to post sarcastic comments, then I'll just delete them.
Like I said in the introduction, if you bothered to read it, I've said it's PL, CL, FA LC.....not Europa Leagues, Community shields etc.
I've not posted this as a City fan to antagonise any fan of any club, just ask a simple question.
Maybe the facts aren't to your liking and you'd like me to manipulate to show you in a better light? If so, I could have done that for City, as for me, it shows that since we've actually had money to compete, we've won trophies. I wanted to ask if that is true of all clubs and are there any trends when it comes to spending.
Up to you.
posted on 22/7/15
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 8 minutes ago
The only trophies that should be counted are CL, PL, FA Cup, League Cup and Europa League/Uefa Cup.
Winning stuff like the community shield is nice and all but it's doesn't bother you much if your team loses.
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Why does anybody bother playing in them if they don't count?
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Do you really think a one off game at the start of the season compares to winning any of the trophies I listed? I just don't think they should be taken into consideration when determining how successful a team has been.
posted on 22/7/15
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posted on 22/7/15
comment by raheemsnewtrophycleaner (U20585)
posted 1 minute ago
Look, I take your points. If I've missed one off, then my apologies. It's not been done on purpose, but if you continue to post sarcastic comments, then I'll just delete them.
Like I said in the introduction, if you bothered to read it, I've said it's PL, CL, FA LC.....not Europa Leagues, Community shields etc.
I've not posted this as a City fan to antagonise any fan of any club, just ask a simple question.
Maybe the facts aren't to your liking and you'd like me to manipulate to show you in a better light? If so, I could have done that for City, as for me, it shows that since we've actually had money to compete, we've won trophies. I wanted to ask if that is true of all clubs and are there any trends when it comes to spending.
Up to you.
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You have to include Europa Leagues/Uefa Cups way better trophy to win than the FA Cup or League Cup.
posted on 22/7/15
Why don't Europa Leagues count? Surely clubs in the Europa League spent the money you've posted(possibly made up) in order to compete in it? Not only that but it's widely considered on here that it's very difficult to compete in other competitions when you play in the Europa League yet when somebody wins it, and not only that, wins other trophies along with it, it doesn't count?
With that in mind, I'm out.
posted on 22/7/15
comment by TUX (U5315)
posted 3 minutes ago
If you're talking 'spend v success' then why limit your post to only 5 teams?
Your definition of 'success' would help.
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You define it? I'm sure we'd have LFC fans wanting every trophy prior to 1992 including - but as I mentioned, for ease of use, I've just taken 1992 - to the present.....isn't 23 years enough to demonstrate spend vs 'a definition of success?
We'd be all day arguing over what success means.
posted on 22/7/15
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 8 minutes ago
The only trophies that should be counted are CL, PL, FA Cup, League Cup and Europa League/Uefa Cup.
Winning stuff like the community shield is nice and all but it's doesn't bother you much if your team loses.
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Why does anybody bother playing in them if they don't count?
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Do you really think a one off game at the start of the season compares to winning any of the trophies I listed? I just don't think they should be taken into consideration when determining how successful a team has been.
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Do you really think I think they compare? What I'm stating is that it's ridiculous to say they don't count. I feel they do count and I was happy we won them. Each to their own.
posted on 22/7/15
comment by LocoLiverpool (U18018)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by raheemsnewtrophycleaner (U20585)
posted 1 minute ago
Look, I take your points. If I've missed one off, then my apologies. It's not been done on purpose, but if you continue to post sarcastic comments, then I'll just delete them.
Like I said in the introduction, if you bothered to read it, I've said it's PL, CL, FA LC.....not Europa Leagues, Community shields etc.
I've not posted this as a City fan to antagonise any fan of any club, just ask a simple question.
Maybe the facts aren't to your liking and you'd like me to manipulate to show you in a better light? If so, I could have done that for City, as for me, it shows that since we've actually had money to compete, we've won trophies. I wanted to ask if that is true of all clubs and are there any trends when it comes to spending.
Up to you.
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You have to include Europa Leagues/Uefa Cups way better trophy to win than the FA Cup or League Cup.
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Well I haven't.
posted on 22/7/15
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