If LVG does what he says and plays 4-3-3 then Mata will unlikely get a look in on the front three if we sign another forward.
IMO he isn't good enough to be part of the midfield three unless we play teams that are parking the bus.
Herrera for me.
Mata, for me... We can now play two deep lying midfielders, meaning Mata can pull the strings without tracking back as much. Play him right and he can help win the league, just look at what he did at Chelsea.
LvG seems to know his worth now, goals and assists are a given.
Yeh maybe against teams doing a Chelsea he'd be ideal. Against attacking teams I feel Mata is a little too slow. I think he's good enough for the number ten role though.
Need to find a way of playing both. At moment it shouldn't be too hard.
Pedro joining, if that happens, could put the cat amongst the pigeons though.
Would love to see Mata, Herrera n Pedro all together. The Spanish armada.
Fellaini is our best player. He starts when available.
I disagree with that VC.
Mata could easily play in a midfield three if he is ahead of 2 of Morgan, Bastien or carrick.
where he would struggle in a three though is if Herrera was on of the 2 behind him.
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posted 1 minute ago
Fellaini is our best player. He starts when available.
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Se I doubt he's gonna fit both in. It would mean not playing Depay, Pedro, or one of the other Cm's. I can't see it happening too often.
My preference for the midfield 3 would be
Mata Schneiderlin herrera.
Herrera and Schneiderlin are both capable of playing offensively and defensively and at a and Herrera are our most creative players.
Rd I don't think that would work too well. Herrera isn't the most disciplined and Mata isn't defensive minded at all.
Herrera is arguably the most complete midfielder in the league and it's a joke that he isn't one of the first names on the team sheet.
Ideally they both should be playing as they combine brilliantly.
Depends who we are playing. If we play one of ottom teams and they park bus, it would be fine.
Against good teams no chance
comment by Dink Dunk, Donk, Denk and Dank and also now regrettably DOINK!!!! (U11713)
posted 6 minutes ago
I disagree with that VC.
.................
Of course you would. I never mentioned anyone's willy.
But at the end of the day IMO, Herrera is a better midfield player than Mata.
Herrera for me as well. If the rumours regarding Pedro are accurate;
We could line up like this;
Herr Schweinsteirgerlin
Pedro-------Rooney---------Depay
Herrera undisciplined,how exactly? I know LVG said so at 1 point put he then got in the side and performed well.
Herrera and Schneiderlin would be perfectly adequate defensively against most sides.
comment by Reddevils double (U12215)
posted 1 minute ago
Herrera undisciplined,how exactly? I know LVG said so at 1 point put he then got in the side and performed well.
..............
Indeed Reddevils. He is more disciplined than Mata.
If you guys sign Pedro, why no
Herrera Schneiderlin
Pedro---Mata---Depay
---------Rooney
What generally constitutes a creative player. Technically better, more imaginative, keener eye for the unexpected pass, better dribbler.
I've not been blown away by Mata's attacking influence and expected him to create more on a consistent basis but I think it's very hard to argue that Herrera is more creative. I like Herrera a lot too, but the way he's being painted as a Messiah on here is slightly laughable.
What I really like about Herrera is that he drives forward with the ball at his feet. He isn't afraid to go into the space like our other midfielders.
Who knows, maybe that's the trait that LVG doesn't like with space left in behind.
Anyhow, I'd like to see him ahead of Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger, Depay and Young either side.
the only way i would play Herrera and Mata together in a midfield 3 is if we had 2 top class CB's behind them.
as it is, we havent, so i wouldnt
for me, against Villa it would be
------------Schneiderlin----Schweinsteiger--------------
----------------------------Herrera------------------------------
Mata----------------------Rooney--------------------Depay
it doesnt matter though anyway, because until LVG comes to the understanding of many of us, and that is Depay should be on the left, Herrera wont be starting games regardless
I just don't see what Mata currently adds to the side, he is constantly muscled off the ball or fond too slow in possession, he doesn't seem to make too many decisive passes and has no physical attributes what so ever. He is a fantastic finisher which is about all he has proven since moving to us.
With the right players around him he's a good player, but we aren't going to build a team around him, he simply isn't good enough.
comment by Dink Dunk, Donk, Denk and Dank and also now regrettably DOINK!!!! (U11713)
posted 1 minute ago
for me, against Villa it would be
------------Schneiderlin----Schweinsteiger--------------
----------------------------Herrera------------------------------
Mata----------------------Rooney--------------------Depay
it doesnt matter though anyway, because until LVG comes to the understanding of many of us, and that is Depay should be on the left, Herrera wont be starting games regardless
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Busby
I take it you and Dunc are still at odds with each other?
I think he's only recently unfiltered me, unless he has been away for a while.
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posted on 13/8/15
If LVG does what he says and plays 4-3-3 then Mata will unlikely get a look in on the front three if we sign another forward.
IMO he isn't good enough to be part of the midfield three unless we play teams that are parking the bus.
Herrera for me.
posted on 13/8/15
Mata, for me... We can now play two deep lying midfielders, meaning Mata can pull the strings without tracking back as much. Play him right and he can help win the league, just look at what he did at Chelsea.
LvG seems to know his worth now, goals and assists are a given.
posted on 13/8/15
Yeh maybe against teams doing a Chelsea he'd be ideal. Against attacking teams I feel Mata is a little too slow. I think he's good enough for the number ten role though.
posted on 13/8/15
Need to find a way of playing both. At moment it shouldn't be too hard.
Pedro joining, if that happens, could put the cat amongst the pigeons though.
Would love to see Mata, Herrera n Pedro all together. The Spanish armada.
posted on 13/8/15
Fellaini is our best player. He starts when available.
posted on 13/8/15
I disagree with that VC.
Mata could easily play in a midfield three if he is ahead of 2 of Morgan, Bastien or carrick.
where he would struggle in a three though is if Herrera was on of the 2 behind him.
posted on 13/8/15
comment by R... Rajkumar (U18090)
posted 1 minute ago
Fellaini is our best player. He starts when available.
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posted on 13/8/15
Se I doubt he's gonna fit both in. It would mean not playing Depay, Pedro, or one of the other Cm's. I can't see it happening too often.
posted on 13/8/15
My preference for the midfield 3 would be
Mata Schneiderlin herrera.
Herrera and Schneiderlin are both capable of playing offensively and defensively and at a and Herrera are our most creative players.
posted on 13/8/15
Rd I don't think that would work too well. Herrera isn't the most disciplined and Mata isn't defensive minded at all.
posted on 13/8/15
Herrera is arguably the most complete midfielder in the league and it's a joke that he isn't one of the first names on the team sheet.
Ideally they both should be playing as they combine brilliantly.
posted on 13/8/15
Depends who we are playing. If we play one of ottom teams and they park bus, it would be fine.
Against good teams no chance
posted on 13/8/15
comment by Dink Dunk, Donk, Denk and Dank and also now regrettably DOINK!!!! (U11713)
posted 6 minutes ago
I disagree with that VC.
.................
Of course you would. I never mentioned anyone's willy.
But at the end of the day IMO, Herrera is a better midfield player than Mata.
posted on 13/8/15
Herrera for me as well. If the rumours regarding Pedro are accurate;
We could line up like this;
Herr Schweinsteirgerlin
Pedro-------Rooney---------Depay
posted on 13/8/15
Herrera undisciplined,how exactly? I know LVG said so at 1 point put he then got in the side and performed well.
Herrera and Schneiderlin would be perfectly adequate defensively against most sides.
posted on 13/8/15
comment by Reddevils double (U12215)
posted 1 minute ago
Herrera undisciplined,how exactly? I know LVG said so at 1 point put he then got in the side and performed well.
..............
Indeed Reddevils. He is more disciplined than Mata.
posted on 13/8/15
If you guys sign Pedro, why no
Herrera Schneiderlin
Pedro---Mata---Depay
---------Rooney
posted on 13/8/15
What generally constitutes a creative player. Technically better, more imaginative, keener eye for the unexpected pass, better dribbler.
I've not been blown away by Mata's attacking influence and expected him to create more on a consistent basis but I think it's very hard to argue that Herrera is more creative. I like Herrera a lot too, but the way he's being painted as a Messiah on here is slightly laughable.
posted on 13/8/15
What I really like about Herrera is that he drives forward with the ball at his feet. He isn't afraid to go into the space like our other midfielders.
Who knows, maybe that's the trait that LVG doesn't like with space left in behind.
Anyhow, I'd like to see him ahead of Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger, Depay and Young either side.
posted on 13/8/15
the only way i would play Herrera and Mata together in a midfield 3 is if we had 2 top class CB's behind them.
as it is, we havent, so i wouldnt
posted on 13/8/15
for me, against Villa it would be
------------Schneiderlin----Schweinsteiger--------------
----------------------------Herrera------------------------------
Mata----------------------Rooney--------------------Depay
it doesnt matter though anyway, because until LVG comes to the understanding of many of us, and that is Depay should be on the left, Herrera wont be starting games regardless
posted on 13/8/15
I just don't see what Mata currently adds to the side, he is constantly muscled off the ball or fond too slow in possession, he doesn't seem to make too many decisive passes and has no physical attributes what so ever. He is a fantastic finisher which is about all he has proven since moving to us.
With the right players around him he's a good player, but we aren't going to build a team around him, he simply isn't good enough.
posted on 13/8/15
comment by Dink Dunk, Donk, Denk and Dank and also now regrettably DOINK!!!! (U11713)
posted 1 minute ago
for me, against Villa it would be
------------Schneiderlin----Schweinsteiger--------------
----------------------------Herrera------------------------------
Mata----------------------Rooney--------------------Depay
it doesnt matter though anyway, because until LVG comes to the understanding of many of us, and that is Depay should be on the left, Herrera wont be starting games regardless
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This would be my team Dunce.
posted on 13/8/15
Busby
I take it you and Dunc are still at odds with each other?
posted on 13/8/15
I think he's only recently unfiltered me, unless he has been away for a while.
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