comment by yeah yeah (U17250)
posted 2 minutes ago
so it becomes a lot harder to turn down a transfer fee that = 25% of your annual revenues**
How much do you know about Everton's finances? we can turn down any bid we want to turn down...
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I know as much as I have read in the link I posted, which shows that your finances are closer to those of Swansea than those of Spurs.
I am well aware that you are able to, and may, turn down any bid you want to, you're not about to go bust/breach your banking covenants, so can do what you want.
My argument simply revolves around whether your owner would rather have Stones in his squad or £30m in his back pocket. But if you want to limit your debates to fellow Everton fans only then I'll leave you to it.
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 36 seconds ago
Still struggle to see where the club have put a value against him, all they have done is reject the silly low offers and tell Chelsea he is not for sale.
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Fair point, unlike say Sterling - where everyone was told, and told repeatedly, what the price was, even as Liverpool's official public statements were that he was not for sale - I haven't seen any price put on the player's head/
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by yeah yeah (U17250)
posted 2 minutes ago
so it becomes a lot harder to turn down a transfer fee that = 25% of your annual revenues**
How much do you know about Everton's finances? we can turn down any bid we want to turn down...
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I know as much as I have read in the link I posted, which shows that your finances are closer to those of Swansea than those of Spurs.
I am well aware that you are able to, and may, turn down any bid you want to, you're not about to go bust/breach your banking covenants, so can do what you want.
My argument simply revolves around whether your owner would rather have Stones in his squad or £30m in his back pocket. But if you want to limit your debates to fellow Everton fans only then I'll leave you to it.
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£30m in the bank doesn't perform on the pitch does it. I am sure Martinez woul drather lose him on a free in four years than try to replace a player Chelsea seem to want to break the bank for.
How do you replace a player that a club doesnt want to sell......
If a player exists that can do the same job as Stones, then Jose should go get him
My argument simply revolves around whether your owner would rather have Stones in his squad or £30m in his back pocket. But if you want to limit your debates to fellow Everton fans only then I'll leave you to it**
Trust me if that's your argument I can categorically tell you that he would rather have Stones in the squad and so would all Evertonians...we've told Chelsea more than once he isn't for Sale and the latest bid is as petulant as Mourinho on a good day, believe it or not we are a big football club too and we don't need to sell players
My argument simply revolves around whether your owner would rather have Stones in his squad or £30m in his back pocket. But if you want to limit your debates to fellow Everton fans only then I'll leave you to it**
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The Chairman is a fan, a long term fan and has been long involved with the club. He sure as hell would be happy to see Stones on the pitch, you can't replace a player of his quality for £30m
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 58 seconds ago
My argument simply revolves around whether your owner would rather have Stones in his squad or £30m in his back pocket. But if you want to limit your debates to fellow Everton fans only then I'll leave you to it**
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The Chairman is a fan, a long term fan and has been long involved with the club. He sure as hell would be happy to see Stones on the pitch, you can't replace a player of his quality for £30m
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For what it's worth I would much rather see him stay and develop as a player rather than go onto the Chelsea player merrygoround, so I'm with you.
comment by TacticsFC (U20646)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
I think Everton holding on for more than 30m is a perfect example that small clubs have caused this pathetic trend of price inflation for transfer fees. It's despicable that most fees are averaging 20-30m. A decade ago that would have bought you a proven world cup or champions league winner. Nowadays it doesn't even buy a young player with very little experience or proven pedigree.
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We don't want to sell, what part of that do you not understand?? Take your dirty oil money elsewhere.
I'll ignore your pathetic small club comment.
comment by TacticsFC (U20646)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
I think Everton holding on for more than 30m is a perfect example that small clubs have caused this pathetic trend of price inflation for transfer fees. It's despicable that most fees are averaging 20-30m. A decade ago that would have bought you a proven world cup or champions league winner. Nowadays it doesn't even buy a young player with very little experience or proven pedigree.
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We're not inflating the price though Chelsea are. He isn't for sale, we're not making Chelsea bid these amounts. We've firmly said we won't be accepting any bids, Chelsea are bidding in the hope of unsettling him and forcing a transfer request.
Unfortunately for them Stones isn't that type of player. It's very possible that he may go in a year or two and we will get top dollar (and rightly so). But until then we've made ourselves very clear on the matter NOT FOR SALE.
Roman must be asking the question......
If Jose is the best manager, why didn't he spot Stines while he was at Barnsley and buy him then?
Or look at his record with development of talent through the ranks at Chelsea, really....he is the special one at missing out on talent and buying it for a price
Jose doesn't stay anywhere long enough to reap the rewards of developing players, hence why he buy "ready made" ones. I reckon a Roman isn't best pleased with him wasting around £40m on luis abd cudrado
Chelsea have a nerve,considering what they sold David Luiz for.
Could be on borrowed time at Chelsea and looking at a move to United.
He never stays long and has made no secret he wants to be United boss. Rumours are that a deal has been done and Roman will not let him spend, how could anyone stay at Chelsea when a big club comes calling
Every small club doesn't want to sell their players, but it must become apparent after much less time than the current saga has drawn on that the player will ultimately want to play champions league football and get a better salary/record/trophies/sponsorship at a big club. So what Everton are currently doing with this stance is trying to haggle a bigger fee. No one buys the statement about not wanting to sell. Its obviously a negotiaiting tactic. The point is 10-15 years ago the club would have just realised their situation and accepted the <30 bid as a very significant amount of money. But greed has befallen even the smallest of clubs, for the most unproven of players. Might I ask what stones has achieved in his football career? Might I ask what your valuation of other centre backs would be if he is worth 40m? Smalling had a good game today is he worth 60 now/?
I am not a fan of Chelsea or any of the aforementioned clubs, but disgruntled at price inflation caused by small clubs.
It's disgraceful what small clubs are doing to price inflation, I mean Chelsea holding out for £50m for Luiz was undignified and ruins it for everyone. But that's small club behaviour for you.
comment by TacticsFC (U20646)
posted 20 minutes ago
Every small club doesn't want to sell their players, but it must become apparent after much less time than the current saga has drawn on that the player will ultimately want to play champions league football and get a better salary/record/trophies/sponsorship at a big club. So what Everton are currently doing with this stance is trying to haggle a bigger fee. No one buys the statement about not wanting to sell. Its obviously a negotiaiting tactic. The point is 10-15 years ago the club would have just realised their situation and accepted the <30 bid as a very significant amount of money. But greed has befallen even the smallest of clubs, for the most unproven of players. Might I ask what stones has achieved in his football career? Might I ask what your valuation of other centre backs would be if he is worth 40m? Smalling had a good game today is he worth 60 now/?
I am not a fan of Chelsea or any of the aforementioned clubs, but disgruntled at price inflation caused by small clubs.
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So we don't want to sell him, but because we are a small club ( your words). We should be thankful for any amount offered? Who do you support?
You mean david luiz the multiple cup winner amongst which a champions league and confed cup final against Spain. Not even a fan of him but he seems a bargain at 50m compared to 40m for someone with practically no experience or proven performance. Didn't they accept the first bid ?
comment by TacticsFC (U20646)
posted 7 hours, 17 minutes ago
You mean david luiz the multiple cup winner amongst which a champions league and confed cup final against Spain. Not even a fan of him but he seems a bargain at 50m compared to 40m for someone with practically no experience or proven performance. Didn't they accept the first bid ?
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I'm shocked that Jose would sell Luiz, when you put his list of achievements down. So you have to ask the question, why would Jose sell him and replace him with an expensive inferior quality player like Stones?
Balls in your court numb nuts
Phil Neville won more cups than Luiz does that make him worry over £50m?
We are trying to build a team by developing young talent to challenge at the top end of the premiership and John Stones is very much a part of that.
Everton know his worth but feel he is more valuable to Everton as he would be incredibly difficult to replace. He is unique, a ball playing centre back, a great athlete with leadership qualities. Future Everton captain, most probably England captain as well.
With the rise in TV revenue and our reduced debt we are in a position to keep our assets.
If 'multiple cup winner' David Luiz is so so obviously the better player why don't Chelsea admit their mistake and just buy him back. They can then stop their underhand tactics of leaking their bids to the gutter press to try and unsettle our player in a bid to force a transfer through.
WE DO NOT HAVE TO SELL
Again, it's not that Everton have to sell but they will Need to sell. No player would prefer to stay in a mid-table team that hasn't won any trophies of late when given the opportunity to play in the champions league (not even listing all other advantages). I don't see the comparison between Luiz and Stones. Mourinho didn't like the former because he's a wannabe midfielder and used the money for a key striker and midfielder. It was good business. You're using this comparison as a smoke screen to avoid all the other questions I asked. Namely, why inflate the price of a completely unproven and overrated defender. Most modern centre backs are good on the ball. Stones has one of the worst individual error rates and low number of clearances for a CB since 2013. He's only played 45 odd games. He has a poor injury record. He's not worth the 40m everton are demanding. Isn't it the Everton 'legend' Andy Gray that's talking most about this transfer?
Namely, why inflate the price of a completely unproven and overrated defender. Most modern centre backs are good on the ball.
Why is Maureen upping the bids if this sack of shiitt Stones is so pisss poor.
Is Maureen losing the plot?
comment by TacticsFC (U20646)
posted 22 minutes ago
Again, it's not that Everton have to sell but they will Need to sell. No player would prefer to stay in a mid-table team that hasn't won any trophies of late when given the opportunity to play in the champions league (not even listing all other advantages). I don't see the comparison between Luiz and Stones. Mourinho didn't like the former because he's a wannabe midfielder and used the money for a key striker and midfielder. It was good business. You're using this comparison as a smoke screen to avoid all the other questions I asked. Namely, why inflate the price of a completely unproven and overrated defender. Most modern centre backs are good on the ball. Stones has one of the worst individual error rates and low number of clearances for a CB since 2013. He's only played 45 odd games. He has a poor injury record. He's not worth the 40m everton are demanding. Isn't it the Everton 'legend' Andy Gray that's talking most about this transfer?
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Why is your club willing to break the British transfer record for a defender,if Stones ain't up to much?
I don't see the comparison between Luiz and Stones?
You've just given us a list of reasons why Stones ain't worth £40,well I'll give you a reason why Luiz wasn't worth £50m,he can't fūcking defend,and believe it or not,that's what you buy a defender for.
We were mocked by Chelsea fans for paying £28m,for Lukaku,but when the roles are reversed you bītch about it.
The world and football club size according to Tactics FC - what a legend this guy is!
He's our player, we sell if we want, when we want and for what price we want, quite a simple concept
Don't feed the troll boys, old Tictac FC knows he's talking a huge pile of sheite. Laughable stuff really.....
comment by TacticsFC (U20646)
posted 13 minutes ago
Again, it's not that Everton have to sell but they will Need to sell. No player would prefer to stay in a mid-table team that hasn't won any trophies of late when given the opportunity to play in the champions league (not even listing all other advantages). I don't see the comparison between Luiz and Stones. Mourinho didn't like the former because he's a wannabe midfielder and used the money for a key striker and midfielder. It was good business. You're using this comparison as a smoke screen to avoid all the other questions I asked. Namely, why inflate the price of a completely unproven and overrated defender. Most modern centre backs are good on the ball. Stones has one of the worst individual error rates and low number of clearances for a CB since 2013. He's only played 45 odd games. He has a poor injury record. He's not worth the 40m everton are demanding. Isn't it the Everton 'legend' Andy Gray that's talking most about this transfer?
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So iif he isn't worth it either price or quality wise.....why does Jose keep persuing him.....Increasing his clubs valuation of the player up from the initial rejected bid of £20m?
Surely he is aware of the baseless facts you posted about errors and injury record
Makes me think you know more then Jose and a raft of ex pro's and pundits.
Also, if a club states he is not for sale.....how have they inflated the price....it's Chelsea who are doing this
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posted on 18/8/15
comment by yeah yeah (U17250)
posted 2 minutes ago
so it becomes a lot harder to turn down a transfer fee that = 25% of your annual revenues**
How much do you know about Everton's finances? we can turn down any bid we want to turn down...
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I know as much as I have read in the link I posted, which shows that your finances are closer to those of Swansea than those of Spurs.
I am well aware that you are able to, and may, turn down any bid you want to, you're not about to go bust/breach your banking covenants, so can do what you want.
My argument simply revolves around whether your owner would rather have Stones in his squad or £30m in his back pocket. But if you want to limit your debates to fellow Everton fans only then I'll leave you to it.
posted on 18/8/15
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 36 seconds ago
Still struggle to see where the club have put a value against him, all they have done is reject the silly low offers and tell Chelsea he is not for sale.
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Fair point, unlike say Sterling - where everyone was told, and told repeatedly, what the price was, even as Liverpool's official public statements were that he was not for sale - I haven't seen any price put on the player's head/
posted on 18/8/15
comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by yeah yeah (U17250)
posted 2 minutes ago
so it becomes a lot harder to turn down a transfer fee that = 25% of your annual revenues**
How much do you know about Everton's finances? we can turn down any bid we want to turn down...
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I know as much as I have read in the link I posted, which shows that your finances are closer to those of Swansea than those of Spurs.
I am well aware that you are able to, and may, turn down any bid you want to, you're not about to go bust/breach your banking covenants, so can do what you want.
My argument simply revolves around whether your owner would rather have Stones in his squad or £30m in his back pocket. But if you want to limit your debates to fellow Everton fans only then I'll leave you to it.
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£30m in the bank doesn't perform on the pitch does it. I am sure Martinez woul drather lose him on a free in four years than try to replace a player Chelsea seem to want to break the bank for.
How do you replace a player that a club doesnt want to sell......
If a player exists that can do the same job as Stones, then Jose should go get him
posted on 18/8/15
My argument simply revolves around whether your owner would rather have Stones in his squad or £30m in his back pocket. But if you want to limit your debates to fellow Everton fans only then I'll leave you to it**
Trust me if that's your argument I can categorically tell you that he would rather have Stones in the squad and so would all Evertonians...we've told Chelsea more than once he isn't for Sale and the latest bid is as petulant as Mourinho on a good day, believe it or not we are a big football club too and we don't need to sell players
posted on 18/8/15
My argument simply revolves around whether your owner would rather have Stones in his squad or £30m in his back pocket. But if you want to limit your debates to fellow Everton fans only then I'll leave you to it**
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The Chairman is a fan, a long term fan and has been long involved with the club. He sure as hell would be happy to see Stones on the pitch, you can't replace a player of his quality for £30m
posted on 18/8/15
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 58 seconds ago
My argument simply revolves around whether your owner would rather have Stones in his squad or £30m in his back pocket. But if you want to limit your debates to fellow Everton fans only then I'll leave you to it**
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The Chairman is a fan, a long term fan and has been long involved with the club. He sure as hell would be happy to see Stones on the pitch, you can't replace a player of his quality for £30m
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For what it's worth I would much rather see him stay and develop as a player rather than go onto the Chelsea player merrygoround, so I'm with you.
posted on 18/8/15
comment by TacticsFC (U20646)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
I think Everton holding on for more than 30m is a perfect example that small clubs have caused this pathetic trend of price inflation for transfer fees. It's despicable that most fees are averaging 20-30m. A decade ago that would have bought you a proven world cup or champions league winner. Nowadays it doesn't even buy a young player with very little experience or proven pedigree.
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We don't want to sell, what part of that do you not understand?? Take your dirty oil money elsewhere.
I'll ignore your pathetic small club comment.
posted on 18/8/15
comment by TacticsFC (U20646)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
I think Everton holding on for more than 30m is a perfect example that small clubs have caused this pathetic trend of price inflation for transfer fees. It's despicable that most fees are averaging 20-30m. A decade ago that would have bought you a proven world cup or champions league winner. Nowadays it doesn't even buy a young player with very little experience or proven pedigree.
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We're not inflating the price though Chelsea are. He isn't for sale, we're not making Chelsea bid these amounts. We've firmly said we won't be accepting any bids, Chelsea are bidding in the hope of unsettling him and forcing a transfer request.
Unfortunately for them Stones isn't that type of player. It's very possible that he may go in a year or two and we will get top dollar (and rightly so). But until then we've made ourselves very clear on the matter NOT FOR SALE.
posted on 18/8/15
Roman must be asking the question......
If Jose is the best manager, why didn't he spot Stines while he was at Barnsley and buy him then?
Or look at his record with development of talent through the ranks at Chelsea, really....he is the special one at missing out on talent and buying it for a price
posted on 18/8/15
Jose doesn't stay anywhere long enough to reap the rewards of developing players, hence why he buy "ready made" ones. I reckon a Roman isn't best pleased with him wasting around £40m on luis abd cudrado
posted on 18/8/15
Chelsea have a nerve,considering what they sold David Luiz for.
posted on 18/8/15
Could be on borrowed time at Chelsea and looking at a move to United.
He never stays long and has made no secret he wants to be United boss. Rumours are that a deal has been done and Roman will not let him spend, how could anyone stay at Chelsea when a big club comes calling
posted on 18/8/15
Every small club doesn't want to sell their players, but it must become apparent after much less time than the current saga has drawn on that the player will ultimately want to play champions league football and get a better salary/record/trophies/sponsorship at a big club. So what Everton are currently doing with this stance is trying to haggle a bigger fee. No one buys the statement about not wanting to sell. Its obviously a negotiaiting tactic. The point is 10-15 years ago the club would have just realised their situation and accepted the <30 bid as a very significant amount of money. But greed has befallen even the smallest of clubs, for the most unproven of players. Might I ask what stones has achieved in his football career? Might I ask what your valuation of other centre backs would be if he is worth 40m? Smalling had a good game today is he worth 60 now/?
I am not a fan of Chelsea or any of the aforementioned clubs, but disgruntled at price inflation caused by small clubs.
posted on 18/8/15
It's disgraceful what small clubs are doing to price inflation, I mean Chelsea holding out for £50m for Luiz was undignified and ruins it for everyone. But that's small club behaviour for you.
posted on 18/8/15
comment by TacticsFC (U20646)
posted 20 minutes ago
Every small club doesn't want to sell their players, but it must become apparent after much less time than the current saga has drawn on that the player will ultimately want to play champions league football and get a better salary/record/trophies/sponsorship at a big club. So what Everton are currently doing with this stance is trying to haggle a bigger fee. No one buys the statement about not wanting to sell. Its obviously a negotiaiting tactic. The point is 10-15 years ago the club would have just realised their situation and accepted the <30 bid as a very significant amount of money. But greed has befallen even the smallest of clubs, for the most unproven of players. Might I ask what stones has achieved in his football career? Might I ask what your valuation of other centre backs would be if he is worth 40m? Smalling had a good game today is he worth 60 now/?
I am not a fan of Chelsea or any of the aforementioned clubs, but disgruntled at price inflation caused by small clubs.
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So we don't want to sell him, but because we are a small club ( your words). We should be thankful for any amount offered? Who do you support?
posted on 18/8/15
You mean david luiz the multiple cup winner amongst which a champions league and confed cup final against Spain. Not even a fan of him but he seems a bargain at 50m compared to 40m for someone with practically no experience or proven performance. Didn't they accept the first bid ?
posted on 19/8/15
comment by TacticsFC (U20646)
posted 7 hours, 17 minutes ago
You mean david luiz the multiple cup winner amongst which a champions league and confed cup final against Spain. Not even a fan of him but he seems a bargain at 50m compared to 40m for someone with practically no experience or proven performance. Didn't they accept the first bid ?
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I'm shocked that Jose would sell Luiz, when you put his list of achievements down. So you have to ask the question, why would Jose sell him and replace him with an expensive inferior quality player like Stones?
Balls in your court numb nuts
posted on 19/8/15
Phil Neville won more cups than Luiz does that make him worry over £50m?
posted on 19/8/15
We are trying to build a team by developing young talent to challenge at the top end of the premiership and John Stones is very much a part of that.
Everton know his worth but feel he is more valuable to Everton as he would be incredibly difficult to replace. He is unique, a ball playing centre back, a great athlete with leadership qualities. Future Everton captain, most probably England captain as well.
With the rise in TV revenue and our reduced debt we are in a position to keep our assets.
If 'multiple cup winner' David Luiz is so so obviously the better player why don't Chelsea admit their mistake and just buy him back. They can then stop their underhand tactics of leaking their bids to the gutter press to try and unsettle our player in a bid to force a transfer through.
WE DO NOT HAVE TO SELL
posted on 19/8/15
Again, it's not that Everton have to sell but they will Need to sell. No player would prefer to stay in a mid-table team that hasn't won any trophies of late when given the opportunity to play in the champions league (not even listing all other advantages). I don't see the comparison between Luiz and Stones. Mourinho didn't like the former because he's a wannabe midfielder and used the money for a key striker and midfielder. It was good business. You're using this comparison as a smoke screen to avoid all the other questions I asked. Namely, why inflate the price of a completely unproven and overrated defender. Most modern centre backs are good on the ball. Stones has one of the worst individual error rates and low number of clearances for a CB since 2013. He's only played 45 odd games. He has a poor injury record. He's not worth the 40m everton are demanding. Isn't it the Everton 'legend' Andy Gray that's talking most about this transfer?
posted on 19/8/15
Namely, why inflate the price of a completely unproven and overrated defender. Most modern centre backs are good on the ball.
Why is Maureen upping the bids if this sack of shiitt Stones is so pisss poor.
Is Maureen losing the plot?
posted on 19/8/15
comment by TacticsFC (U20646)
posted 22 minutes ago
Again, it's not that Everton have to sell but they will Need to sell. No player would prefer to stay in a mid-table team that hasn't won any trophies of late when given the opportunity to play in the champions league (not even listing all other advantages). I don't see the comparison between Luiz and Stones. Mourinho didn't like the former because he's a wannabe midfielder and used the money for a key striker and midfielder. It was good business. You're using this comparison as a smoke screen to avoid all the other questions I asked. Namely, why inflate the price of a completely unproven and overrated defender. Most modern centre backs are good on the ball. Stones has one of the worst individual error rates and low number of clearances for a CB since 2013. He's only played 45 odd games. He has a poor injury record. He's not worth the 40m everton are demanding. Isn't it the Everton 'legend' Andy Gray that's talking most about this transfer?
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Why is your club willing to break the British transfer record for a defender,if Stones ain't up to much?
I don't see the comparison between Luiz and Stones?
You've just given us a list of reasons why Stones ain't worth £40,well I'll give you a reason why Luiz wasn't worth £50m,he can't fūcking defend,and believe it or not,that's what you buy a defender for.
We were mocked by Chelsea fans for paying £28m,for Lukaku,but when the roles are reversed you bītch about it.
posted on 19/8/15
The world and football club size according to Tactics FC - what a legend this guy is!
He's our player, we sell if we want, when we want and for what price we want, quite a simple concept
posted on 19/8/15
Don't feed the troll boys, old Tictac FC knows he's talking a huge pile of sheite. Laughable stuff really.....
posted on 19/8/15
comment by TacticsFC (U20646)
posted 13 minutes ago
Again, it's not that Everton have to sell but they will Need to sell. No player would prefer to stay in a mid-table team that hasn't won any trophies of late when given the opportunity to play in the champions league (not even listing all other advantages). I don't see the comparison between Luiz and Stones. Mourinho didn't like the former because he's a wannabe midfielder and used the money for a key striker and midfielder. It was good business. You're using this comparison as a smoke screen to avoid all the other questions I asked. Namely, why inflate the price of a completely unproven and overrated defender. Most modern centre backs are good on the ball. Stones has one of the worst individual error rates and low number of clearances for a CB since 2013. He's only played 45 odd games. He has a poor injury record. He's not worth the 40m everton are demanding. Isn't it the Everton 'legend' Andy Gray that's talking most about this transfer?
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So iif he isn't worth it either price or quality wise.....why does Jose keep persuing him.....Increasing his clubs valuation of the player up from the initial rejected bid of £20m?
Surely he is aware of the baseless facts you posted about errors and injury record
Makes me think you know more then Jose and a raft of ex pro's and pundits.
Also, if a club states he is not for sale.....how have they inflated the price....it's Chelsea who are doing this
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