Who was the first henzeguet then?
He's more of a foreign Zaha
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Watching him dribble reminds me of Faustino Asprilla.
Naively racist comment there.
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The money in the game is rapidly increasing. The TV and Adidas deal alone are eye watering. Whilst fees may be higher, you can't have your cake and eat it. We are never going to keep increasing our income like we have and pay what we would have paid 5 years ago for players.
30 million won't be an amount for elite players anymore. The bracket has increased. For a 19 year old with potential going to us from a team who by all accounts weren't exactly desperate to get rid, you aren't going to pay 20 million.
These fees will keep increasing, what would have been a 15 million transfer, will be 25 and so on. Especially when we are involved and everyone knows the ludicrous money we get paid. It's going to be an adjustment but we may as well just get used to it and try to not be hung up on transfer fees. Rather this than the days of 'no value in the market' and constant frustration at not buying.
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 16 minutes ago
The money in the game is rapidly increasing. The TV and Adidas deal alone are eye watering. Whilst fees may be higher, you can't have your cake and eat it. We are never going to keep increasing our income like we have and pay what we would have paid 5 years ago for players.
30 million won't be an amount for elite players anymore. The bracket has increased. For a 19 year old with potential going to us from a team who by all accounts weren't exactly desperate to get rid, you aren't going to pay 20 million.
These fees will keep increasing, what would have been a 15 million transfer, will be 25 and so on. Especially when we are involved and everyone knows the ludicrous money we get paid. It's going to be an adjustment but we may as well just get used to it and try to not be hung up on transfer fees. Rather this than the days of 'no value in the market' and constant frustration at not buying.
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Very true although 46m for this guy still looks awful value whichever way you paint it.
comment by Science (U19684)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 16 minutes ago
The money in the game is rapidly increasing. The TV and Adidas deal alone are eye watering. Whilst fees may be higher, you can't have your cake and eat it. We are never going to keep increasing our income like we have and pay what we would have paid 5 years ago for players.
30 million won't be an amount for elite players anymore. The bracket has increased. For a 19 year old with potential going to us from a team who by all accounts weren't exactly desperate to get rid, you aren't going to pay 20 million.
These fees will keep increasing, what would have been a 15 million transfer, will be 25 and so on. Especially when we are involved and everyone knows the ludicrous money we get paid. It's going to be an adjustment but we may as well just get used to it and try to not be hung up on transfer fees. Rather this than the days of 'no value in the market' and constant frustration at not buying.
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Very true although 46m for this guy still looks awful value whichever way you paint it.
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How many times... We only end up spending that much money if he turns out, quite literally, to be a world beater.
Which would mean it'd look like pretty good value
as far as I've heard you'll pay around 50 mil if he's just decent
36mil up front +
6 goals a season (25 in total) over 4 years = +7.2mil
25 caps for France = +7.2mil
the only unlikely one is the ballon d'or (another 7.2)
You'll pay 50 of the 57mil even if he's average.
you'll pay 57 if he's a world beater.
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 52 minutes ago
as far as I've heard you'll pay around 50 mil if he's just decent
36mil up front +
6 goals a season (25 in total) over 4 years = +7.2mil
25 caps for France = +7.2mil
the only unlikely one is the ballon d'or (another 7.2)
You'll pay 50 of the 57mil even if he's average.
you'll pay 57 if he's a world beater.
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Sauce?
comment by Shinjisshin (U1700)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 52 minutes ago
as far as I've heard you'll pay around 50 mil if he's just decent
36mil up front +
6 goals a season (25 in total) over 4 years = +7.2mil
25 caps for France = +7.2mil
the only unlikely one is the ballon d'or (another 7.2)
You'll pay 50 of the 57mil even if he's average.
you'll pay 57 if he's a world beater.
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Sauce?
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Likely TalkSport
comment by rossobianchi1980 (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Shinjisshin (U1700)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 52 minutes ago
as far as I've heard you'll pay around 50 mil if he's just decent
36mil up front +
6 goals a season (25 in total) over 4 years = +7.2mil
25 caps for France = +7.2mil
the only unlikely one is the ballon d'or (another 7.2)
You'll pay 50 of the 57mil even if he's average.
you'll pay 57 if he's a world beater.
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Sauce?
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Likely TalkSport
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A few papers have been running this as well, The Indy, The Sun to name two.
"United will be forced to pay United an extra £7.2m should Martial score 25 goals within the next four seasons, with an additional £7.2m set to be received if the 19-year-old goes on to make 25 international caps across the same period."
That WILL happen, you can basically add 14 million to the fee right now, if he doesn't reach those targets it's one of the most ill-advised transfers of all time.
Paying for "potential" should mean 10-12 million for an unproven 19 year old not 57 million.
I wasn't having a dig
you can afford it so who cares.
You basically paid the same as City did for the 'French Sterling'
10-12mil gets you a pub player with the potential to be a gastropub player these days. Blame the market, not your management.
Bruce
The amount of money in the game is changing, and changing quickly. The new TV and kit deals are likely only the start of a commercial movement that's only going in one direction. The rate at which our own commercial revenue is increasing is in itself growing.
We have bucketloads of money, and a will to spend it on players. Don't be at all surprised if this trend continues.
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 1 minute ago
I wasn't having a dig
you can afford it so who cares.
You basically paid the same as City did for the 'French Sterling'
10-12mil gets you a pub player with the potential to be a gastropub player these days. Blame the market, not your management.
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Does it?
According to Sky Sports, Smalling cost 10 million, Darmian was 12, Blind was only two million more at 14, Courtois was 7.9, Azpilacueta was 7, Hart was 600k.
There's loads of player out there, capable of playing for top clubs, who cost between 10-12 million. Good players for reasonable prices are out there IMO.
I understand that there's more money in the PL than ever before and clubs will over pay for players and I, of course, hope he does well, but 50 million for a player that might be good one day?
I know most of those players were brought before the new TV deals but those prices can still get you good players, even in today's market IMO.
they're also all defensive players and keepers
The second coming of wayne bridge was a defensive player and he is still nowhere near convinced me he is worth anywhere near that value yet.
But you are right in that you pay more for attackers. Martial may become a great player, and prove his worth, he also might not, it's a gamble.
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The Second Coming of Henzeguet
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posted on 6/9/15
Who was the first henzeguet then?
posted on 6/9/15
Themselves?
posted on 6/9/15
Bellertan.
posted on 6/9/15
He's more of a foreign Zaha
posted on 6/9/15
Hes the black Platini.
posted on 6/9/15
The Zaranogo
posted on 6/9/15
Van Bastelrooy
posted on 6/9/15
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posted on 6/9/15
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posted on 6/9/15
Watching him dribble reminds me of Faustino Asprilla.
posted on 6/9/15
Naively racist comment there.
posted on 6/9/15
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posted on 6/9/15
The money in the game is rapidly increasing. The TV and Adidas deal alone are eye watering. Whilst fees may be higher, you can't have your cake and eat it. We are never going to keep increasing our income like we have and pay what we would have paid 5 years ago for players.
30 million won't be an amount for elite players anymore. The bracket has increased. For a 19 year old with potential going to us from a team who by all accounts weren't exactly desperate to get rid, you aren't going to pay 20 million.
These fees will keep increasing, what would have been a 15 million transfer, will be 25 and so on. Especially when we are involved and everyone knows the ludicrous money we get paid. It's going to be an adjustment but we may as well just get used to it and try to not be hung up on transfer fees. Rather this than the days of 'no value in the market' and constant frustration at not buying.
posted on 6/9/15
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 16 minutes ago
The money in the game is rapidly increasing. The TV and Adidas deal alone are eye watering. Whilst fees may be higher, you can't have your cake and eat it. We are never going to keep increasing our income like we have and pay what we would have paid 5 years ago for players.
30 million won't be an amount for elite players anymore. The bracket has increased. For a 19 year old with potential going to us from a team who by all accounts weren't exactly desperate to get rid, you aren't going to pay 20 million.
These fees will keep increasing, what would have been a 15 million transfer, will be 25 and so on. Especially when we are involved and everyone knows the ludicrous money we get paid. It's going to be an adjustment but we may as well just get used to it and try to not be hung up on transfer fees. Rather this than the days of 'no value in the market' and constant frustration at not buying.
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Very true although 46m for this guy still looks awful value whichever way you paint it.
posted on 6/9/15
comment by Science (U19684)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 16 minutes ago
The money in the game is rapidly increasing. The TV and Adidas deal alone are eye watering. Whilst fees may be higher, you can't have your cake and eat it. We are never going to keep increasing our income like we have and pay what we would have paid 5 years ago for players.
30 million won't be an amount for elite players anymore. The bracket has increased. For a 19 year old with potential going to us from a team who by all accounts weren't exactly desperate to get rid, you aren't going to pay 20 million.
These fees will keep increasing, what would have been a 15 million transfer, will be 25 and so on. Especially when we are involved and everyone knows the ludicrous money we get paid. It's going to be an adjustment but we may as well just get used to it and try to not be hung up on transfer fees. Rather this than the days of 'no value in the market' and constant frustration at not buying.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Very true although 46m for this guy still looks awful value whichever way you paint it.
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How many times... We only end up spending that much money if he turns out, quite literally, to be a world beater.
Which would mean it'd look like pretty good value
posted on 6/9/15
as far as I've heard you'll pay around 50 mil if he's just decent
36mil up front +
6 goals a season (25 in total) over 4 years = +7.2mil
25 caps for France = +7.2mil
the only unlikely one is the ballon d'or (another 7.2)
You'll pay 50 of the 57mil even if he's average.
you'll pay 57 if he's a world beater.
posted on 6/9/15
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 52 minutes ago
as far as I've heard you'll pay around 50 mil if he's just decent
36mil up front +
6 goals a season (25 in total) over 4 years = +7.2mil
25 caps for France = +7.2mil
the only unlikely one is the ballon d'or (another 7.2)
You'll pay 50 of the 57mil even if he's average.
you'll pay 57 if he's a world beater.
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Sauce?
posted on 6/9/15
comment by Shinjisshin (U1700)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 52 minutes ago
as far as I've heard you'll pay around 50 mil if he's just decent
36mil up front +
6 goals a season (25 in total) over 4 years = +7.2mil
25 caps for France = +7.2mil
the only unlikely one is the ballon d'or (another 7.2)
You'll pay 50 of the 57mil even if he's average.
you'll pay 57 if he's a world beater.
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Sauce?
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Likely TalkSport
posted on 6/9/15
comment by rossobianchi1980 (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by Shinjisshin (U1700)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 52 minutes ago
as far as I've heard you'll pay around 50 mil if he's just decent
36mil up front +
6 goals a season (25 in total) over 4 years = +7.2mil
25 caps for France = +7.2mil
the only unlikely one is the ballon d'or (another 7.2)
You'll pay 50 of the 57mil even if he's average.
you'll pay 57 if he's a world beater.
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Sauce?
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Likely TalkSport
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A few papers have been running this as well, The Indy, The Sun to name two.
"United will be forced to pay United an extra £7.2m should Martial score 25 goals within the next four seasons, with an additional £7.2m set to be received if the 19-year-old goes on to make 25 international caps across the same period."
That WILL happen, you can basically add 14 million to the fee right now, if he doesn't reach those targets it's one of the most ill-advised transfers of all time.
Paying for "potential" should mean 10-12 million for an unproven 19 year old not 57 million.
posted on 6/9/15
I wasn't having a dig
you can afford it so who cares.
You basically paid the same as City did for the 'French Sterling'
10-12mil gets you a pub player with the potential to be a gastropub player these days. Blame the market, not your management.
posted on 6/9/15
Bruce
The amount of money in the game is changing, and changing quickly. The new TV and kit deals are likely only the start of a commercial movement that's only going in one direction. The rate at which our own commercial revenue is increasing is in itself growing.
We have bucketloads of money, and a will to spend it on players. Don't be at all surprised if this trend continues.
posted on 6/9/15
comment by The Kaiser's Trainers (U5676)
posted 1 minute ago
I wasn't having a dig
you can afford it so who cares.
You basically paid the same as City did for the 'French Sterling'
10-12mil gets you a pub player with the potential to be a gastropub player these days. Blame the market, not your management.
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Does it?
According to Sky Sports, Smalling cost 10 million, Darmian was 12, Blind was only two million more at 14, Courtois was 7.9, Azpilacueta was 7, Hart was 600k.
There's loads of player out there, capable of playing for top clubs, who cost between 10-12 million. Good players for reasonable prices are out there IMO.
I understand that there's more money in the PL than ever before and clubs will over pay for players and I, of course, hope he does well, but 50 million for a player that might be good one day?
posted on 6/9/15
I know most of those players were brought before the new TV deals but those prices can still get you good players, even in today's market IMO.
posted on 6/9/15
they're also all defensive players and keepers
posted on 6/9/15
The second coming of wayne bridge was a defensive player and he is still nowhere near convinced me he is worth anywhere near that value yet.
But you are right in that you pay more for attackers. Martial may become a great player, and prove his worth, he also might not, it's a gamble.
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