If you think about managing a squad Sandy, you've got to give these players minutes to a) keep them happy b)develop them as players so they are ready to step in. In hindsight Fazio and Vorm should've been Toby and Lloris, but we just needed that little bit of luck after a dominating performance.
If you think about managing a squad Sandy
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and if you think his job as manger is to WIN games particularly home cup games
We have City at home and Monaco away ( the toughest in our group) next. Whilst I agree his job is to win games, not getting a pasting against city and nicking something from them will be a tough job as will the Monaco game, especially in a comp many of us want to take more seriously.
I suspect that while Poch realised it wasn't the strongest defence he could have played, he had hoped it was good enough to still get a result. I must admit I didn't think Fazio would be as bad as that either.
We have City at home and Monaco away
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I dont care who we are playing next weekend or next week or next month Poch's job today was to get us thru to the next round of the cup and just like last season in the FA Cup at WHL he lost.
He is a damned joke as a manager and today proved it and when city beat us at the weekend wtf are you going to say then?
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but the team out there was good enough to win the game.
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Well obviously they were not because they lost the game
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Couldn't agree more. I said on the match thread I was really worried about that defence. Fazio really is the biggest bolt headed useless Frankenstein sh** c*** in the universe. He can't pass, he can't tackle and has about as much pace as a 1 legged donkey. If we were going to make changes to the defence then you paid Wimner up with either Verts or Alderweireld. To literally change the whole backline was suicide and poch is totally to blame for this. Won't make a difference Saturday as we are in for our annual dicking to City where Aguero runs rings around us as per usual
You should have won the game. We had dross all over the pitch - Chambers, Debuchy, Arteta, Flamini, Campbell, Giroud. All garbage 3rd rate footballers. We played a stronger team vs Dynamo Zagreb and lost
He is a damned joke as a manager and today proved it and when city beat us at the weekend wtf are you going to say then?
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Whilst I agree his stubbornness will be Poch's undoing and yeh we probably will get a spanking from City which will get people moaning even more, but up until tonight we'd won three on the bounce without conceding, it's not like we are in turmoil as you are insinuating grand mate
we'd won three on the bounce without conceding
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Carrier bag never scored against us then two games ago?
it's not like we are in turmoil as you are insinuating grand mate
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Who said we are in turmoil? I said that an idiot of a manager fielded a drastically weakened side agaisnt our biggest rivals and got us knocked out of the cup.
I never mentioned turmoil
apologies, 1 goal in 3 games which we won.
Tbh the way you are going on Grand, you'd think we had just got drubbed by 4/5/6 goals.
YES fazio was rank and more than likely Poch's stubbornness will let us down at times, but every gaffer has a weakness and this is his.
MoPo's Top 4 Project (Formely AVBdot)
As you say Spurs had won three on the bounce without conceding, and WTF does Poch do, he changes the entire back four and goalie and gets beaten at home by our nearest and dearest. FFS that is astonishingly good management.
MoPO
To be honest mate, Poch is pretty clueless. Everytime he picks a weakened team, Spurs lose. He doesn`t seem to be learning at all from his mistakes. Some of his substitutions are pretty shocking as well.
but every gaffer has a weakness and this is his.
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Just stubbornness?
How about not having a plan B?
How about the boring predictable turgid style of football we now play?
He has more than one weakness I could list plenty more but really cant be bothered we only have to put up with him until about February anyway.
Tbh the way you are going on Grand, you'd think we had just got drubbed by 4/5/6 goals.
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Why the hell do we have to get thrashed for it to hurt?
Are you telling me if your wife cheated it would only hurt if she was involved in a GB? One guy is ok yes?
hahaha come on mate, you know what I mean. It always hurts to lose the gooners, but realistically we had them against the ropes only for Fazio to mess it up.
Just stubbornness?
How about not having a plan B?
How about the boring predictable turgid style of football we now play?
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both stem from his stubborness
but realistically we had them against the ropes only for Fazio to mess it up.
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No realistically until the 2nd half when they sat back we virtually never created a thing then once they scored for us cos we could not get a shot on target they then opened up again and had at least 3 good chances to score against our one.
Thats the realism
Whilst we lacked service in the first half, we easily bossed an hour of that game Grand. We needed a bit of luck and to take our chances better; one off the line and one disallowed!
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One off the line yes the disallowed goal was because he was 3 yards offside ffs?
We never bossed an hour of that game they sat back with a lead and let us have the ball for 25 minutes as soon as the equaliser went in and they made a substitution there was only ever going to be one winner full stop
I disagree, up until their goal we had the better of it in the first 20/ 25 mins and then half hour of the second half we were the better side, again up until they scored.
On a different day, kane would've had the spacial awareness to stay onside, that comes down to the luck element I've mentioned.
I disagree, up until their goal we had the better of it in the first 20/ 25
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Really? How many times did we go close before they scored? They went close twice before they scored BTW and then about 4 times after we scored to our once.
On a different day, kane would've had the spacial awareness to stay onside, that comes down to the luck element I've mentioned.
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Had he have been onside he would not have got the rebound and I dotn know if you noticed but THEY never had two defenders keeping him onside like we did for Flamini
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posted on 23/9/15
If you think about managing a squad Sandy, you've got to give these players minutes to a) keep them happy b)develop them as players so they are ready to step in. In hindsight Fazio and Vorm should've been Toby and Lloris, but we just needed that little bit of luck after a dominating performance.
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If you think about managing a squad Sandy
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and if you think his job as manger is to WIN games particularly home cup games
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We have City at home and Monaco away ( the toughest in our group) next. Whilst I agree his job is to win games, not getting a pasting against city and nicking something from them will be a tough job as will the Monaco game, especially in a comp many of us want to take more seriously.
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I suspect that while Poch realised it wasn't the strongest defence he could have played, he had hoped it was good enough to still get a result. I must admit I didn't think Fazio would be as bad as that either.
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We have City at home and Monaco away
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I dont care who we are playing next weekend or next week or next month Poch's job today was to get us thru to the next round of the cup and just like last season in the FA Cup at WHL he lost.
He is a damned joke as a manager and today proved it and when city beat us at the weekend wtf are you going to say then?
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but the team out there was good enough to win the game.
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Well obviously they were not because they lost the game
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Couldn't agree more. I said on the match thread I was really worried about that defence. Fazio really is the biggest bolt headed useless Frankenstein sh** c*** in the universe. He can't pass, he can't tackle and has about as much pace as a 1 legged donkey. If we were going to make changes to the defence then you paid Wimner up with either Verts or Alderweireld. To literally change the whole backline was suicide and poch is totally to blame for this. Won't make a difference Saturday as we are in for our annual dicking to City where Aguero runs rings around us as per usual
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You should have won the game. We had dross all over the pitch - Chambers, Debuchy, Arteta, Flamini, Campbell, Giroud. All garbage 3rd rate footballers. We played a stronger team vs Dynamo Zagreb and lost
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He is a damned joke as a manager and today proved it and when city beat us at the weekend wtf are you going to say then?
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Whilst I agree his stubbornness will be Poch's undoing and yeh we probably will get a spanking from City which will get people moaning even more, but up until tonight we'd won three on the bounce without conceding, it's not like we are in turmoil as you are insinuating grand mate
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we'd won three on the bounce without conceding
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Carrier bag never scored against us then two games ago?
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it's not like we are in turmoil as you are insinuating grand mate
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Who said we are in turmoil? I said that an idiot of a manager fielded a drastically weakened side agaisnt our biggest rivals and got us knocked out of the cup.
I never mentioned turmoil
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apologies, 1 goal in 3 games which we won.
Tbh the way you are going on Grand, you'd think we had just got drubbed by 4/5/6 goals.
YES fazio was rank and more than likely Poch's stubbornness will let us down at times, but every gaffer has a weakness and this is his.
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MoPo's Top 4 Project (Formely AVBdot)
As you say Spurs had won three on the bounce without conceding, and WTF does Poch do, he changes the entire back four and goalie and gets beaten at home by our nearest and dearest. FFS that is astonishingly good management.
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MoPO
To be honest mate, Poch is pretty clueless. Everytime he picks a weakened team, Spurs lose. He doesn`t seem to be learning at all from his mistakes. Some of his substitutions are pretty shocking as well.
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but every gaffer has a weakness and this is his.
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Just stubbornness?
How about not having a plan B?
How about the boring predictable turgid style of football we now play?
He has more than one weakness I could list plenty more but really cant be bothered we only have to put up with him until about February anyway.
Tbh the way you are going on Grand, you'd think we had just got drubbed by 4/5/6 goals.
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Why the hell do we have to get thrashed for it to hurt?
Are you telling me if your wife cheated it would only hurt if she was involved in a GB? One guy is ok yes?
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hahaha come on mate, you know what I mean. It always hurts to lose the gooners, but realistically we had them against the ropes only for Fazio to mess it up.
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Just stubbornness?
How about not having a plan B?
How about the boring predictable turgid style of football we now play?
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both stem from his stubborness
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but realistically we had them against the ropes only for Fazio to mess it up.
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No realistically until the 2nd half when they sat back we virtually never created a thing then once they scored for us cos we could not get a shot on target they then opened up again and had at least 3 good chances to score against our one.
Thats the realism
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Whilst we lacked service in the first half, we easily bossed an hour of that game Grand. We needed a bit of luck and to take our chances better; one off the line and one disallowed!
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one off the line and one disallowed!
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One off the line yes the disallowed goal was because he was 3 yards offside ffs?
We never bossed an hour of that game they sat back with a lead and let us have the ball for 25 minutes as soon as the equaliser went in and they made a substitution there was only ever going to be one winner full stop
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I disagree, up until their goal we had the better of it in the first 20/ 25 mins and then half hour of the second half we were the better side, again up until they scored.
On a different day, kane would've had the spacial awareness to stay onside, that comes down to the luck element I've mentioned.
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I disagree, up until their goal we had the better of it in the first 20/ 25
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Really? How many times did we go close before they scored? They went close twice before they scored BTW and then about 4 times after we scored to our once.
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On a different day, kane would've had the spacial awareness to stay onside, that comes down to the luck element I've mentioned.
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Had he have been onside he would not have got the rebound and I dotn know if you noticed but THEY never had two defenders keeping him onside like we did for Flamini
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