This guy sounds like our IRU with his stats obsession.

Looks like plenty will be leaked soon in the press regarding this infamous transfer committee. I think Rodgers is trying to use them as an excuse for his failings on the pitch.

Daily mail article that doesn't actually clear up who this guy helped fine. The promising signings like Coutinho, Sakho, Moreno, Can....don't look like Rodgers signings to me. The likes of Allen, Borini, Lovren, Lallana do however.

The thing with Klopp is that he probably won't even want a place on the committee. He hates dealing with transfers, and never did so at Dortmund. So from now on FSG can't complain about Rodgers not playing their signings e.g Sakho, Markovic, Firmino

Alonso had the best stats for tackles in the league one season in pretty sure

'we need to get rid of this clown'

only if you believe everything that comes out of the Daily Fail!?

There is no way we should hide from stats as this is massively important in today's game AND i dont believe for a second that Neil Ashton is correct that this 'Nerd', 'did a number on Rodgers' ...his words not mine.

Too many cooks and all that.

As long as the manager has the final say seems a sensible format. Rodgers apparently had the final say. The problem I have is that I don't necessarily believe that.

We certainly have to improve our recruitment process if we want to improve. Under FSG imo we certainly have not acquired the quality we could/should have, given the money spent

There are a host of reason why we can't get the players we wanted, but our second options have to be better. If they are not then no matter who the manager is we are set to continue in the doldrums.

Sharticle inspired by a farticle.

First, the daily mail is a laughable publication, and know for its sensationalist hatchet jobs. You won't ever get a balanced or reasonable article from there.

You know it's cr*p when at the start it tells you he has no history in football. Before going on to tell you his 13 year career in it. One where redknapp thought enough of him, despite only being a video analyst (meaning he does know about football as he is tactically dissecting performances) to take him to Tottenham with a promotion to boot.

Levy thought enough of him to offer him a bumper wage rise to try and keep him, and was "distraught" that he left.

As for the op. In the article it clearly states that DMs are rated on interceptions and tackles. So yes alonso would have been highly valued!, your whole post smacks of someone who doesn't trust "stats"

Stats are just a representation of something that has happened in a quantifiable easy to understand way, they can be misconstrued or misused, but so long as they are recorded accurately and used appropriately they are infallible as a measure of what has happened.

Your whole life will be governed by statistics. The pay you receive, the mortgage you have, your energy bills, car tax, politics, newspaper articles, the adverts you see on TV. The TV scheduling, the food you eat. Absolutely everything is based on statistics. And they will continue to play a larger part in life.

Those who decry statistics as being false wizardry are basically the same as their grandparents generation who thought the Internet was going to steal their identity and don't trust online banking, or their parents generation who dident trust smartphones. It's anti progress, and it's usually based on ignorance

Did you know IRU that if someone pots a "stats" article on the Liverpool board there is exactly a 91.5% chance you will be on it at some point

Stats are an important part in football now and this information should be embraced.

However, the manager ultimately, once assessing everything should always get the final say on something as basic as identifying the players he wants to improve his team.

Taking into account what the club and Rodgers say, and the rumours which circulate about this committee I just don't know that is the case with Liverpool.

It maybe the case but we will never know, but the lack of transparency is unhelpful for the club imo.

I don't think Rodgers helped himself, while he is a progressive manager tactically, a lot of his beliefs are that of old fashioned managers in regards to being in control of the whole club.

Most clubs dont publicise it but all clubs have a committee, read about commoli and wengers relationship with regards to building the invincibles, commoli was head scout and personally in charge of France.

Read about both phelan and quieroz comments regarding working with fergie, especially his later years, both of them have made comments about them basically managing the team, which Ferguson has never challenged, Roy Keane did a TV interview about it. It seems Ferguson ran the show but delegated all training to them along with other responsibilities with him able to overrule them. They had the title "head coach" same as brendan.. Or klopp at dortmund. Or "managers" of any club with a "dof"

There's not many clubs where a manager has all the responsibility, it's just the labels given are new and people don't understand it,

Klopp has stated he prefers the DOF model as he gets to concentrate on coaching, and even then, his assistant is the tactician. Jurgen also embraces newer technology. Like the footbonaut, everyone at dortmund spends minimum of 20 minutes a week in there, including youth players.

I can't see him being g a man shying away from statistical analysis, whereas for me brendan saw himself more as a fergie type, or the impression You get of fergie and wenger without looking in to their staffing relationships.

I think this article should be re-named

"Goofy One needs to stop reading the Daily Hiel"

Just two things to consider about this cancerous rag.

1) In the 1930's they actively supported the rise of Hilter and Fascism in their editorials.

2) The owners are billionaire British tax avioders on a monumental scale.

The fact that the likes of Gerrard and Carra write for this black hole makes my blood boil.

Rant over

That article is terrible.

Funny that it complains about use of stats but reads like a Wikipedia entry with added baseless opinion thrown in

Usual drivel from the Mail, the worst paper/website in the world.

Someone is forgetting a certain red-top

But the mail is definitely the second worst!!

Also we need to remember that 73.4% of all statistics are made up....







including the one above.

That one is of course terrible as well Insert but doesn't have the reach and influence that the Mail does.

This article has all the hallmarks of bullsh 1t. High on speculation, low on information.

There is nothing wrong with using stats to get background information on a player. You are, after all, investing millions in him, and pretty much everybody does it, now.

What this muppet is claiming is that FSG use stats as the main criteria for choosing a player, but he doesn’t say how he knows this....largely because....er..... he doesn’t. He even concedes, in the small print at the end, that Rodgers had the final say on players.

I saw Werner on LFCtv, ages ago, saying that FSG quickly realised that a Moneyball strategy didn’t work as well in football as in baseball, so they only use it as background information, not as a strategy. Yet the whole premise of this article is that they have a Moneyball strategy

And Origi, a young player bought for development, is an “error” because he’s not yet playing much?
So presumably Sterling was an “error” for his first few years at the club, too. And if Origi plays, somebody else doesn’t, so presumably they then become the “error”. So somebody’s an “error”no matter who plays.

And Hoffenheim finished 8th in the Bundesliga, so that’s that then, Firmino must be sheite. We finished 8th with Suarez in our team, so he must have been sheite as well, according to this muppet, who is using stats like an 8-year-old might,( while accusing FSG of using stats: I doubt they use them as crudely as that).
Everton finished 11th last year, so Stones must be sheite, as well.

If a team's not playing well, then the individual players in it are not going to shine either. The Palace forwards made Sterling look like a Sunday footballer at Anfield last season, but clubs look beyond the form of their current team when evaluating a player, and for a football journo not to understand something as basic that makes him a fvckwit.

I suppose using this kind of guff for covering football is harmless enough, if there’s really people out there who can’t see through it, but this gutter rag uses this kind of guff logic for everything else, as well

most read paper in this country i believe, and part of the murdoch empire..

Yeah but DM is the most read news website in the world I believe.

Its not part of the Murdoch empire, its own by Lord Rothermere I believe. Who, is quite a lot like Murdorch, only a very British one

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Its not part of the Murdoch empire, its own by Lord Rothermere I believe. Who, is quite a lot like Murdorch, only a very British one
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I was referring to the s*n

Oh right, fair enough.

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