comment by Mr Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
posted 50 seconds ago
Like they have some insight or have a direct line to the club.
I believe the truth is a lot to do with preseason where we had a later than normal return to training and a few players have looked off the pace since. We also did not back Jose in the market. Business was left too late in window so the selling club had no chance to find replacements.
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On that same token Bov.. Have you got a direct line to the club? Everyone here are just posting what they believe too just like you have
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its more of a we are having a bad and some cant handle it and looking for a quick fix,
leaving our club with tag yet again.
To the Chelsea fans, from watching your side this season, is there anything obvious that stands out as letting you down? Something specific tactically, or choice of personnel? Or is everyone just performing a level below the first half of last season without a clear cause?
I ask, because when things are going wrong with Arsenal, it tends to be blindingly obviously poor tactical decisions that have frequently been the issue.
comment by Sömeday_693 - Källström will be... (U8892)
posted 1 minute ago
To the Chelsea fans, from watching your side this season, is there anything obvious that stands out as letting you down? Something specific tactically, or choice of personnel? Or is everyone just performing a level below the first half of last season without a clear cause?
I ask, because when things are going wrong with Arsenal, it tends to be blindingly obviously poor tactical decisions that have frequently been the issue.
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This is what's bizarre, is when I and a few of the other guys talk about it we just can't seem to think what it is that's wrong!?
It can't be the Eva thing because we were awful in pre season before that even happened!
It's almost like since the spurs drubbing we realised this was going to be difficult so we crawled over the line, completely burnt out and now the players are just mentally not interested in winning the trophy they worked so hard to win last season...
I have absolutely no idea what is going on. But I am convinced José should be allowed to have this year to try and recover our season. But only if he ceases our constricting, containment type style and actually grows a pair and unleashes the players potential.
To the Chelsea fans, from watching your side this season, is there anything obvious that stands out as letting you down? Something specific tactically, or choice of personnel? Or is everyone just performing a level below the first half of last season without a clear cause?
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I'm not saying that José shouldn't take his fair share of the blame because he obviously should.
But one of the biggest things I can see from the players is a collective lack of desire to the challenge of being Champions and it's undoubtedly a challenge when everyone wants to beat you.
It seems that our players were happy to come into the season without having to put much effort in having won the title last season and when they realised that this season would be even harder they've just totally shirked the challenge and looked more interested in running away from it.
comment by Bov "Envy is the biggest tribute that the shadows do to the man" (U6696)
posted 32 minutes ago
I believe the truth is a lot to do with preseason where we had a later than normal return to training and a few players have looked off the pace since.
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What a crock of 5h1t, the players have had 11 weeks or so to get up to speed and back on the pace. If a professional sportsman (who isn't injured) can't get himself up to scratch after 11 weeks then he has got a problem.
Stop making excuses. These players are just not interested in playing for Jose, unless you have some insider information on why the whole team cannot play for toffees,
They are interested in playing for him, I go week in week out and travel wherever we go to watch Chelsea play and it's as Jose said, the players are playing for him and they are trying.
Saying they aren't playing for him is stupid as they are, some players just don't have the bottle, Hazard and Fabregas being the main culprits. They've both been horrendous this season...
comment by Ronny Van (keeping a brave face) Banterous - ... (U5996)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Le Cocq POWER (U20300)
posted 6 minutes ago
What he did to Eva was sexist and embarrassing for Chelsea, only an apology will heal the current crisis. These players are champions and only some sort of internal tensions is to blame and Dr Eva's treatment must be one if not the most compelling of all.
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fook off you pathetic small minded piece of rat shlt, typical 1 dimension rtard that has all the medias shlt on his face
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Double that from me
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Bov "Envy is the biggest tribute that the shadows do to the man" (U6696)
posted 32 minutes ago
I believe the truth is a lot to do with preseason where we had a later than normal return to training and a few players have looked off the pace since.
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What a crock of 5h1t, the players have had 11 weeks or so to get up to speed and back on the pace. If a professional sportsman (who isn't injured) can't get himself up to scratch after 11 weeks then he has got a problem.
Stop making excuses. These players are just not interested in playing for Jose, unless you have some insider information on why the whole team cannot play for toffees,
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And who's your inside sauce
It's true that we haven't been that great for a while but the number of decisions that have gone against us has gone some way towards contributing to our poor form. I actually think that the officials are the "they" that Jose is referring to.
comment by TheWhiteWall (U17633)
posted 51 minutes ago
But I am convinced José should be allowed to have this year to try and recover our season. But only if he ceases our constricting, containment type style and actually grows a pair and unleashes the players potential
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This is my feeling too but I feel that's impossible for him.
Jose's built his whole career on making his teams compact and hard to beat. He'd literally have to do 180 turn on his managerial philosophy and I think he's way too stubborn to even consider that.
We've already lost 6 games in the PL but the Pool game still carried signs of our issues of old. If he was going to change he would've done it already
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
What he did to Eva was sexist and embarrassing for Chelsea
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Embarrassing ? Yes. Sexist ? Not a chance.
Jon Fearn (a man) received exactly the same treatment as Eva did that day by Jose, so it clearly had nothing to do with sexism whatsoever.
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Completely agree and for Eva to have worked in a very male dominated industry im sure she must have encountered some swearing and shouting before. She also looks like she is saying something back to Jose so I don't think it is as bad as everyone is making out. And this is coming from a woman's perspective too! Maybe it is just political correctness gone mad.
@Ronny Van (keeping a brave face) Banterous - #prayforjose (U5996)
Saying they aren't playing for him is stupid as they are, some players just don't have the bottle, Hazard and Fabregas being the main culprits. They've both been horrendous this season...
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Have you read this article by Danny Murphy on the BBC site? http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/34668718
He talks through quite a few of our issues, it's definitely worth a read. Anyway, he focuses on Hazard and he's playing arguably better than he was at this stage last season.
Fabregas on the other hand...
comment by petrescu (U14101)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
@Ronny Van (keeping a brave face) Banterous - #prayforjose (U5996)
Saying they aren't playing for him is stupid as they are, some players just don't have the bottle, Hazard and Fabregas being the main culprits. They've both been horrendous this season...
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Have you read this article by Danny Murphy on the BBC site? http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/34668718
He talks through quite a few of our issues, it's definitely worth a read. Anyway, he focuses on Hazard and he's playing arguably better than he was at this stage last season.
Fabregas on the other hand...
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Thanks! Yes I had a read through that the other day, it's weird how he's saying Hazard is playing well because it doesn't look like it in the games I've been too
I go all home and a few away. No way are the players not playing for him. They are below par by a long chalk. I feel the anxiety with every ball that's played into our box. Too many scuffed clearances. Players going for the same ball and some look scared to play the ball. I stand by my earlier comments re preseason. Sure they are fit now. I didn't say they weren't but when Costa and Fabregas came back looking over weight and unfit and we started so poorly the rot was setting in so dismissing these thought as a "crock" is short sighted from that poster.
I agree it's more complex but those points are some of the reasons I believe.
Jose isn't blameless. He would've set up preseason training so he should accept that as an error.
I don't believe anyone else will rally our squad either.
The pressure is well and truly on and it will pain me to see him sacked. He's not bigger than the club but he is a part of our recent history and should be given time
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posted on 31/10/15
comment by Mr Chelsea ✪ (U3579)
posted 50 seconds ago
Like they have some insight or have a direct line to the club.
I believe the truth is a lot to do with preseason where we had a later than normal return to training and a few players have looked off the pace since. We also did not back Jose in the market. Business was left too late in window so the selling club had no chance to find replacements.
______
On that same token Bov.. Have you got a direct line to the club? Everyone here are just posting what they believe too just like you have
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its more of a we are having a bad and some cant handle it and looking for a quick fix,
leaving our club with tag yet again.
posted on 31/10/15
bad patch
posted on 31/10/15
#prayforjose
posted on 31/10/15
To the Chelsea fans, from watching your side this season, is there anything obvious that stands out as letting you down? Something specific tactically, or choice of personnel? Or is everyone just performing a level below the first half of last season without a clear cause?
I ask, because when things are going wrong with Arsenal, it tends to be blindingly obviously poor tactical decisions that have frequently been the issue.
posted on 31/10/15
comment by Sömeday_693 - Källström will be... (U8892)
posted 1 minute ago
To the Chelsea fans, from watching your side this season, is there anything obvious that stands out as letting you down? Something specific tactically, or choice of personnel? Or is everyone just performing a level below the first half of last season without a clear cause?
I ask, because when things are going wrong with Arsenal, it tends to be blindingly obviously poor tactical decisions that have frequently been the issue.
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This is what's bizarre, is when I and a few of the other guys talk about it we just can't seem to think what it is that's wrong!?
It can't be the Eva thing because we were awful in pre season before that even happened!
It's almost like since the spurs drubbing we realised this was going to be difficult so we crawled over the line, completely burnt out and now the players are just mentally not interested in winning the trophy they worked so hard to win last season...
posted on 31/10/15
I have absolutely no idea what is going on. But I am convinced José should be allowed to have this year to try and recover our season. But only if he ceases our constricting, containment type style and actually grows a pair and unleashes the players potential.
posted on 31/10/15
To the Chelsea fans, from watching your side this season, is there anything obvious that stands out as letting you down? Something specific tactically, or choice of personnel? Or is everyone just performing a level below the first half of last season without a clear cause?
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I'm not saying that José shouldn't take his fair share of the blame because he obviously should.
But one of the biggest things I can see from the players is a collective lack of desire to the challenge of being Champions and it's undoubtedly a challenge when everyone wants to beat you.
It seems that our players were happy to come into the season without having to put much effort in having won the title last season and when they realised that this season would be even harder they've just totally shirked the challenge and looked more interested in running away from it.
posted on 31/10/15
comment by Bov "Envy is the biggest tribute that the shadows do to the man" (U6696)
posted 32 minutes ago
I believe the truth is a lot to do with preseason where we had a later than normal return to training and a few players have looked off the pace since.
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What a crock of 5h1t, the players have had 11 weeks or so to get up to speed and back on the pace. If a professional sportsman (who isn't injured) can't get himself up to scratch after 11 weeks then he has got a problem.
Stop making excuses. These players are just not interested in playing for Jose, unless you have some insider information on why the whole team cannot play for toffees,
posted on 31/10/15
They are interested in playing for him, I go week in week out and travel wherever we go to watch Chelsea play and it's as Jose said, the players are playing for him and they are trying.
Saying they aren't playing for him is stupid as they are, some players just don't have the bottle, Hazard and Fabregas being the main culprits. They've both been horrendous this season...
posted on 31/10/15
comment by Ronny Van (keeping a brave face) Banterous - ... (U5996)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Le Cocq POWER (U20300)
posted 6 minutes ago
What he did to Eva was sexist and embarrassing for Chelsea, only an apology will heal the current crisis. These players are champions and only some sort of internal tensions is to blame and Dr Eva's treatment must be one if not the most compelling of all.
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fook off you pathetic small minded piece of rat shlt, typical 1 dimension rtard that has all the medias shlt on his face
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Double that from me
posted on 31/10/15
comment by sᴉɥƃuǝlפ (U19365)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Bov "Envy is the biggest tribute that the shadows do to the man" (U6696)
posted 32 minutes ago
I believe the truth is a lot to do with preseason where we had a later than normal return to training and a few players have looked off the pace since.
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What a crock of 5h1t, the players have had 11 weeks or so to get up to speed and back on the pace. If a professional sportsman (who isn't injured) can't get himself up to scratch after 11 weeks then he has got a problem.
Stop making excuses. These players are just not interested in playing for Jose, unless you have some insider information on why the whole team cannot play for toffees,
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And who's your inside sauce
posted on 31/10/15
It's true that we haven't been that great for a while but the number of decisions that have gone against us has gone some way towards contributing to our poor form. I actually think that the officials are the "they" that Jose is referring to.
posted on 31/10/15
comment by TheWhiteWall (U17633)
posted 51 minutes ago
But I am convinced José should be allowed to have this year to try and recover our season. But only if he ceases our constricting, containment type style and actually grows a pair and unleashes the players potential
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This is my feeling too but I feel that's impossible for him.
Jose's built his whole career on making his teams compact and hard to beat. He'd literally have to do 180 turn on his managerial philosophy and I think he's way too stubborn to even consider that.
We've already lost 6 games in the PL but the Pool game still carried signs of our issues of old. If he was going to change he would've done it already
posted on 31/10/15
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
What he did to Eva was sexist and embarrassing for Chelsea
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Embarrassing ? Yes. Sexist ? Not a chance.
Jon Fearn (a man) received exactly the same treatment as Eva did that day by Jose, so it clearly had nothing to do with sexism whatsoever.
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Completely agree and for Eva to have worked in a very male dominated industry im sure she must have encountered some swearing and shouting before. She also looks like she is saying something back to Jose so I don't think it is as bad as everyone is making out. And this is coming from a woman's perspective too! Maybe it is just political correctness gone mad.
posted on 31/10/15
@Ronny Van (keeping a brave face) Banterous - #prayforjose (U5996)
Saying they aren't playing for him is stupid as they are, some players just don't have the bottle, Hazard and Fabregas being the main culprits. They've both been horrendous this season...
---------------------------
Have you read this article by Danny Murphy on the BBC site? http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/34668718
He talks through quite a few of our issues, it's definitely worth a read. Anyway, he focuses on Hazard and he's playing arguably better than he was at this stage last season.
Fabregas on the other hand...
posted on 31/10/15
comment by petrescu (U14101)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
@Ronny Van (keeping a brave face) Banterous - #prayforjose (U5996)
Saying they aren't playing for him is stupid as they are, some players just don't have the bottle, Hazard and Fabregas being the main culprits. They've both been horrendous this season...
---------------------------
Have you read this article by Danny Murphy on the BBC site? http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/34668718
He talks through quite a few of our issues, it's definitely worth a read. Anyway, he focuses on Hazard and he's playing arguably better than he was at this stage last season.
Fabregas on the other hand...
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Thanks! Yes I had a read through that the other day, it's weird how he's saying Hazard is playing well because it doesn't look like it in the games I've been too
posted on 31/10/15
I go all home and a few away. No way are the players not playing for him. They are below par by a long chalk. I feel the anxiety with every ball that's played into our box. Too many scuffed clearances. Players going for the same ball and some look scared to play the ball. I stand by my earlier comments re preseason. Sure they are fit now. I didn't say they weren't but when Costa and Fabregas came back looking over weight and unfit and we started so poorly the rot was setting in so dismissing these thought as a "crock" is short sighted from that poster.
I agree it's more complex but those points are some of the reasons I believe.
Jose isn't blameless. He would've set up preseason training so he should accept that as an error.
I don't believe anyone else will rally our squad either.
The pressure is well and truly on and it will pain me to see him sacked. He's not bigger than the club but he is a part of our recent history and should be given time
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