Like most problems it comes from a variety of issues but make no mistake the man who has decided to buy and sell the players we have over the past 18 months as well as deciding the style of football we play is primarily responsible.
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 4 minutes ago
How can you blame the players? LVG has spent big, they're the players he has chosen... they're the tactics he has chosen.
The blame for our boring, woeful performances lie at his feet. The league is the weakest it has been in years, and is there for the taking. And will be fortunate to finish 4th by the looks of it.
Terrible.
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THIS! Lvg has been financially backed. 21 shots means nothing they were mostly speculative strikes. United are not creating enough chances thats ALL down to Lvg (tactics and players bought)
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 28 minutes ago
LvG as the manager should be criticised for not getting the personnel to bury chances of that nature. There is no excuse for that.
I am not excusing the result, just making it clear that we also have an issue with poor finishing.
Why can people not see that? Highlighting the chances we missed in the game is not an excuse for the manager.
Inspite of his mistakes, we should be burying the chances.
What is wrong with saying that?
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Poor finishing because we have no strikers lol!!
Imagine if lvg sold shaw Rafael etc with no replacements and our number one backline consisted of young jones carrick and valencia!! It's a similar context he has done up front, to think when we got martial, he hinted he was hardly going to be relied on and was kne for the future, the deluded punk!
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 13 minutes ago
How can you blame the players? LVG has spent big, they're the players he has chosen... they're the tactics he has chosen.
The blame for our boring, woeful performances lie at his feet. The league is the weakest it has been in years, and is there for the taking. And will be fortunate to finish 4th by the looks of it.
Terrible.
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Fantastic. Dudd will no doubt discredit this as the players fault though. Even though during Moyes era he blamed the manager and not the players. Hypocrite liar.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 31 minutes ago
Calling LvG a clown or clueless is so evidently wrong it negates a lot of reasonable criticism.
He has shown he is a top manager over and over again. Who knows, we might even win the PL this year.
But there is no denying some of the football has been dire, and that is mainly, though not totally, down to him.
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Do you think bayern regret kicking him out in hindsight?? I'm sorry his reputation over the last few years was a brand of dire football
Not clueless maybe but 100% a wrong fit
Can't even finish sentences
Or was that the idea?
Good eye deer if so
The philosophy is defiantly a constraint,
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Totally!!!
That bloody philosophy should just accept it's role as a constraint without any defiance.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'The Bigger Picture' - #philosophy = 0-0 (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
I have not called a single person on this board a plastic or a fake fan.
That was what you did Cleverson during the Moyes' days.
I know you are upset because I asked you what the Cleverson then would say to this one but there is no need to make things up.
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Liar - you just called the op unreasonable because he shared his opinion which criticised LVG. Your a fraud like that useless Dutch clown.
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First of all, I was using Jis logic against him.
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Have
I did not call him unreasonable, dor you actually read my posts? I do not believe you do.
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You
Finally cosier ingredients how much you used the words plastics and fake fans under Moyes, it appears you do not know what the words mean
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Been on the sauce mate? I thought I was still inebriated, but that error strewn post has just sobered me up
Cosier ingredients
LOLLINGTONS
Freeyoung. He was voted the manager of the year in Germany when he won the title with Bayern and got to the CL final. There has been a fair amount of criticism about Pep too.
But as I say, some of our football has been awful, and that is largely down to him.
I meant to say "considering"
Cleverson was abusive and critical of anyone who pointed out the failings of Moyes
Calling them plastics and fake fans. Now he's calling for the managers head. All I did was ask him how Moyes' Cleverson would react to the current one.
A fair question to ask
comment by freeyoung (U18669)
posted 3 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 28 minutes ago
LvG as the manager should be criticised for not getting the personnel to bury chances of that nature. There is no excuse for that.
I am not excusing the result, just making it clear that we also have an issue with poor finishing.
Why can people not see that? Highlighting the chances we missed in the game is not an excuse for the manager.
Inspite of his mistakes, we should be burying the chances.
What is wrong with saying that?
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Poor finishing because we have no strikers lol!!
Imagine if lvg sold shaw Rafael etc with no replacements and our number one backline consisted of young jones carrick and valencia!! It's a similar context he has done up front, to think when we got martial, he hinted he was hardly going to be relied on and was kne for the future, the deluded punk!
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The strikers he got rid of were crap. I am upset with him for not getting someone like Muller
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 20 minutes ago
I meant to say "considering"
Cleverson was abusive and critical of anyone who pointed out the failings of Moyes
Calling them plastics and fake fans. Now he's calling for the managers head. All I did was ask him how Moyes' Cleverson would react to the current one.
A fair question to ask
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Your about as entertaining as the clown in charge of United. Cleverson under Moyes backed Moyes. Cleverson after Moyes also admitted to being wrong and sacking Moyes was the right decision.
Dudd under LVG backs him with no critics. Anyone going against the grain is accused of all sorts.
Mudd is a fake fan, a hypocrite and a liar.
Where is the mudd of the Moyes season? "A fair question to ask?"
The difference is that LVG is getting results. Loads of great ones this season so far. Too many to name tbh
comment by Robb - Save us Carlo (U20351)
posted 19 seconds ago
The difference is that LVG is getting results. Loads of great ones this season so far. Too many to name tbh
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I loved that 0-0 we had last week..it was fantastic
Robb where is the mudd of the Moyes season- or is a hypocrite and a liar?
My fave was the other 0-0 draw. Remember? Nope?
Mudd sadly will back LVG no matter what even though he's a dud
comment by Robb - Save us Carlo (U20351)
posted 20 minutes ago
My fave was the other 0-0 draw. Remember? Nope?
Mudd sadly will back LVG no matter what even though he's a dud
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Ah well another 18 months of pass pass hoof to endure then the Dutch clown will be gone.
Cleverson, on this very thread I have criticised the manager.
I do not enjoy the way we play but I can see what he is trying to achieve and he is getting results
I backed Moyes and was willing to give him time provided I could see signs of promise. He failed.
LvG is not doing a great job but has not failed. In the grand scheme of things we are 3 points off top spot in our league.
I have never accused anyone of being a poor fan or a plastic like you and Robbie did under Moyes.
I even remember an article Robbie did when he said in time people like him, the better fans would bask in their superior knowledge.
Me asking you both why you are not abiding by your own principles should not offend you so much. After all they are your principles.
Do you not believe in your own principles? I believe in mine.
When LvG fails like Moyesie I will call for his head. That day has not arrived yet.
Please try and stick to your principles, they were actually praiseworthy.
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 8 minutes ago
Cleverson, on this very thread I have criticised the manager.
I do not enjoy the way we play but I can see what he is trying to achieve and he is getting results
I backed Moyes and was willing to give him time provided I could see signs of promise. He failed.
LvG is not doing a great job but has not failed. In the grand scheme of things we are 3 points off top spot in our league.
I have never accused anyone of being a poor fan or a plastic like you and Robbie did under Moyes.
I even remember an article Robbie did when he said in time people like him, the better fans would bask in their superior knowledge.
Me asking you both why you are not abiding by your own principles should not offend you so much. After all they are your principles.
Do you not believe in your own principles? I believe in mine.
When LvG fails like Moyesie I will call for his head. That day has not arrived yet.
Please try and stick to your principles, they were actually praiseworthy.
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250 million spent and he still can't score goals and cries for the right players. He has failed. A season and a half all that money spent and no trophies. Even Moyes won a trophy. I'll stick to my principles. The guy is a fraud and I can't wait till he's gone.
I backed Moyes and was willing to give him time provided I could see signs of promise. He failed.
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Prove it mr principle. Prove where u backed Moyes?
I have in previous threads said I was happy to be wrong regarding Moyes and eveytine you've bleated on about principles I've shown you articles praising the dull one too.
Where's your proof or are you a hypocritical liar?
A couple of examples
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/211147
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/254584
As you've stated in the past, can you not read mudd? I asked for proof of your backing of Moyes. Of which neither of those articles prove. The one I posted below is a cracking one though - also proving LVG has failed thus far as the game we love is about trophies regardless of how u dress it up.
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/265529
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 11 minutes ago
A couple of examples
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/211147
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/254584
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Comment from the first article:
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted on 12/2/14
Guys, top 4 has gone, just try and enjoy the rest of the season and hope we get some players in as well as a new manager.
The team defended like the Utd of old, it was nice to see. Fergie give a team talk?
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Fantastic suppor there Dudd. Outed as a hypocrite and liar.
#principles
You claim you showed Moyes support, proceeded to post links that 'prove this' and I those very links post this:
Moderator
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted on 12/2/14
Guys, top 4 has gone, just try and enjoy the rest of the season and hope we get some players in as well as a new manager.
The team defended like the Utd of old, it was nice to see. Fergie give a team talk?
Which bit am I not reading liar?
Stick to your principles my good man
Like I've asked you before, what will the Moyes Cleverson say to you
Sign in if you want to comment
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posted on 6/12/15
Like most problems it comes from a variety of issues but make no mistake the man who has decided to buy and sell the players we have over the past 18 months as well as deciding the style of football we play is primarily responsible.
posted on 6/12/15
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 4 minutes ago
How can you blame the players? LVG has spent big, they're the players he has chosen... they're the tactics he has chosen.
The blame for our boring, woeful performances lie at his feet. The league is the weakest it has been in years, and is there for the taking. And will be fortunate to finish 4th by the looks of it.
Terrible.
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THIS! Lvg has been financially backed. 21 shots means nothing they were mostly speculative strikes. United are not creating enough chances thats ALL down to Lvg (tactics and players bought)
posted on 6/12/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 28 minutes ago
LvG as the manager should be criticised for not getting the personnel to bury chances of that nature. There is no excuse for that.
I am not excusing the result, just making it clear that we also have an issue with poor finishing.
Why can people not see that? Highlighting the chances we missed in the game is not an excuse for the manager.
Inspite of his mistakes, we should be burying the chances.
What is wrong with saying that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poor finishing because we have no strikers lol!!
Imagine if lvg sold shaw Rafael etc with no replacements and our number one backline consisted of young jones carrick and valencia!! It's a similar context he has done up front, to think when we got martial, he hinted he was hardly going to be relied on and was kne for the future, the deluded punk!
posted on 6/12/15
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 13 minutes ago
How can you blame the players? LVG has spent big, they're the players he has chosen... they're the tactics he has chosen.
The blame for our boring, woeful performances lie at his feet. The league is the weakest it has been in years, and is there for the taking. And will be fortunate to finish 4th by the looks of it.
Terrible.
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Fantastic. Dudd will no doubt discredit this as the players fault though. Even though during Moyes era he blamed the manager and not the players. Hypocrite liar.
posted on 6/12/15
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 31 minutes ago
Calling LvG a clown or clueless is so evidently wrong it negates a lot of reasonable criticism.
He has shown he is a top manager over and over again. Who knows, we might even win the PL this year.
But there is no denying some of the football has been dire, and that is mainly, though not totally, down to him.
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Do you think bayern regret kicking him out in hindsight?? I'm sorry his reputation over the last few years was a brand of dire football
Not clueless maybe but 100% a wrong fit
posted on 6/12/15
Can't even finish sentences
Or was that the idea?
Good eye deer if so
posted on 6/12/15
The philosophy is defiantly a constraint,
------------------
Totally!!!
That bloody philosophy should just accept it's role as a constraint without any defiance.
posted on 6/12/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'The Bigger Picture' - #philosophy = 0-0 (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 minute ago
I have not called a single person on this board a plastic or a fake fan.
That was what you did Cleverson during the Moyes' days.
I know you are upset because I asked you what the Cleverson then would say to this one but there is no need to make things up.
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Liar - you just called the op unreasonable because he shared his opinion which criticised LVG. Your a fraud like that useless Dutch clown.
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First of all, I was using Jis logic against him.
----------
Have
I did not call him unreasonable, dor you actually read my posts? I do not believe you do.
--------------
You
Finally cosier ingredients how much you used the words plastics and fake fans under Moyes, it appears you do not know what the words mean
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Been on the sauce mate? I thought I was still inebriated, but that error strewn post has just sobered me up
Cosier ingredients
LOLLINGTONS
posted on 6/12/15
Freeyoung. He was voted the manager of the year in Germany when he won the title with Bayern and got to the CL final. There has been a fair amount of criticism about Pep too.
But as I say, some of our football has been awful, and that is largely down to him.
posted on 6/12/15
I meant to say "considering"
Cleverson was abusive and critical of anyone who pointed out the failings of Moyes
Calling them plastics and fake fans. Now he's calling for the managers head. All I did was ask him how Moyes' Cleverson would react to the current one.
A fair question to ask
posted on 6/12/15
comment by freeyoung (U18669)
posted 3 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 28 minutes ago
LvG as the manager should be criticised for not getting the personnel to bury chances of that nature. There is no excuse for that.
I am not excusing the result, just making it clear that we also have an issue with poor finishing.
Why can people not see that? Highlighting the chances we missed in the game is not an excuse for the manager.
Inspite of his mistakes, we should be burying the chances.
What is wrong with saying that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poor finishing because we have no strikers lol!!
Imagine if lvg sold shaw Rafael etc with no replacements and our number one backline consisted of young jones carrick and valencia!! It's a similar context he has done up front, to think when we got martial, he hinted he was hardly going to be relied on and was kne for the future, the deluded punk!
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The strikers he got rid of were crap. I am upset with him for not getting someone like Muller
posted on 6/12/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 20 minutes ago
I meant to say "considering"
Cleverson was abusive and critical of anyone who pointed out the failings of Moyes
Calling them plastics and fake fans. Now he's calling for the managers head. All I did was ask him how Moyes' Cleverson would react to the current one.
A fair question to ask
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Your about as entertaining as the clown in charge of United. Cleverson under Moyes backed Moyes. Cleverson after Moyes also admitted to being wrong and sacking Moyes was the right decision.
Dudd under LVG backs him with no critics. Anyone going against the grain is accused of all sorts.
Mudd is a fake fan, a hypocrite and a liar.
Where is the mudd of the Moyes season? "A fair question to ask?"
posted on 6/12/15
The difference is that LVG is getting results. Loads of great ones this season so far. Too many to name tbh
posted on 6/12/15
comment by Robb - Save us Carlo (U20351)
posted 19 seconds ago
The difference is that LVG is getting results. Loads of great ones this season so far. Too many to name tbh
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I loved that 0-0 we had last week..it was fantastic
Robb where is the mudd of the Moyes season- or is a hypocrite and a liar?
posted on 6/12/15
My fave was the other 0-0 draw. Remember? Nope?
Mudd sadly will back LVG no matter what even though he's a dud
posted on 6/12/15
comment by Robb - Save us Carlo (U20351)
posted 20 minutes ago
My fave was the other 0-0 draw. Remember? Nope?
Mudd sadly will back LVG no matter what even though he's a dud
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Ah well another 18 months of pass pass hoof to endure then the Dutch clown will be gone.
posted on 6/12/15
Cleverson, on this very thread I have criticised the manager.
I do not enjoy the way we play but I can see what he is trying to achieve and he is getting results
I backed Moyes and was willing to give him time provided I could see signs of promise. He failed.
LvG is not doing a great job but has not failed. In the grand scheme of things we are 3 points off top spot in our league.
I have never accused anyone of being a poor fan or a plastic like you and Robbie did under Moyes.
I even remember an article Robbie did when he said in time people like him, the better fans would bask in their superior knowledge.
Me asking you both why you are not abiding by your own principles should not offend you so much. After all they are your principles.
Do you not believe in your own principles? I believe in mine.
When LvG fails like Moyesie I will call for his head. That day has not arrived yet.
Please try and stick to your principles, they were actually praiseworthy.
posted on 6/12/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 8 minutes ago
Cleverson, on this very thread I have criticised the manager.
I do not enjoy the way we play but I can see what he is trying to achieve and he is getting results
I backed Moyes and was willing to give him time provided I could see signs of promise. He failed.
LvG is not doing a great job but has not failed. In the grand scheme of things we are 3 points off top spot in our league.
I have never accused anyone of being a poor fan or a plastic like you and Robbie did under Moyes.
I even remember an article Robbie did when he said in time people like him, the better fans would bask in their superior knowledge.
Me asking you both why you are not abiding by your own principles should not offend you so much. After all they are your principles.
Do you not believe in your own principles? I believe in mine.
When LvG fails like Moyesie I will call for his head. That day has not arrived yet.
Please try and stick to your principles, they were actually praiseworthy.
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250 million spent and he still can't score goals and cries for the right players. He has failed. A season and a half all that money spent and no trophies. Even Moyes won a trophy. I'll stick to my principles. The guy is a fraud and I can't wait till he's gone.
posted on 6/12/15
I backed Moyes and was willing to give him time provided I could see signs of promise. He failed.
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Prove it mr principle. Prove where u backed Moyes?
I have in previous threads said I was happy to be wrong regarding Moyes and eveytine you've bleated on about principles I've shown you articles praising the dull one too.
Where's your proof or are you a hypocritical liar?
posted on 6/12/15
A couple of examples
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/211147
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/254584
posted on 6/12/15
As you've stated in the past, can you not read mudd? I asked for proof of your backing of Moyes. Of which neither of those articles prove. The one I posted below is a cracking one though - also proving LVG has failed thus far as the game we love is about trophies regardless of how u dress it up.
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/265529
posted on 6/12/15
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 11 minutes ago
A couple of examples
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/211147
http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/254584
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Comment from the first article:
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted on 12/2/14
Guys, top 4 has gone, just try and enjoy the rest of the season and hope we get some players in as well as a new manager.
The team defended like the Utd of old, it was nice to see. Fergie give a team talk?
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Fantastic suppor there Dudd. Outed as a hypocrite and liar.
#principles
posted on 6/12/15
Clearly cannot read
posted on 6/12/15
You claim you showed Moyes support, proceeded to post links that 'prove this' and I those very links post this:
Moderator
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted on 12/2/14
Guys, top 4 has gone, just try and enjoy the rest of the season and hope we get some players in as well as a new manager.
The team defended like the Utd of old, it was nice to see. Fergie give a team talk?
Which bit am I not reading liar?
posted on 6/12/15
Stick to your principles my good man
Like I've asked you before, what will the Moyes Cleverson say to you
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