A14

I am a Pak fan
Just a realist one

Trust me - these players dont care but we are the ones with abuse on the streets of England.

That is why im dreading this summer.
4-0
5-0
1-0

10-0 to England.

There is absolutely NOTHING exciting about this Pak team.
It wud be the a miracle if Pak won any match becos they are horrendously bad.
They have even got the wrong Flower in charge..

Pak have got no match-winners

They have no x factor like Stokes or M Marsh.

Bowling is average at best.
Batting is so horrendously bad.
No partnerships, no game changers.
absolutely nothing

Look at all the rest. they have moved on. Pak are going backwards and downwards.

Thats Real Talk.

Even Usman Khawaja is laughing Pak.

Grand

Did you watch yesterday's game? I find your comments about about nothing exciting / good about this team hard to digest... Amir, irfan, wahab and Anwar Ali is a bloody good attack by anyone's standards - home or away.

Like I said, the fact that some games are going to be played in traditionally flat wickets in England and with it not starting until July, I am more hopeful than you are at this stage.

A14

Learn to be humble or you will be humbled

Remember last year
I have withnessed the beautiful game a long time.

I know when i see a strong team & when i see a weak team.

Pak are full of flaws.

As for this bowling attack.
Ridiculous bowling attack.

Simple rule in cricket - when you are on top you stay on top whereas Pak (yesterday) when back to the dark days of 2009-10.

No disrespect to Kiwis - Pak let them win because they cant "kill" teams off ruthlessly like Stuart Broad England or Australia would.

Grand,

I am humble (), don't think we will wipe the floor with England, course they are massive favourites at home and have a sensational record here. Not doubting that... But I think your "sajdah" to the three lions is a bit premature and unfounded....

Some them 4 quicks in an odi is a ridiculous bowling attack? Lol... Jeez, i give up bro

So***

Grand,

I often slate Pakistan on here, but you take the biscuit mate

Also, just a piece of advice, don't say anything about sheezad, the OP is related to him and will delete comments that he thinks are anti- sheezad....

Now let's take a look at shehzads recent form:

last 12 innings for Pakistan:

7 17 7 12 32 13 28 4 16 9 8 & 13
Total 166 runs at an average of 12.33

You have your opinion & i have mine

I am not as cocky and arrogant as you.

I am and always have been humble & a realist.

As for "sajdah" - i dont give it to any lion or animal or people.

Unlike you Mr Asabiya.

Tell him (Amir) to get rid of that "tahweez" No wonder he gets bad luck/karma.

They need to come backk to Tawheed.

Bowling is so bad even Salman Butt can smash them all around the park.
Never mind that - Hales would be in dreamland facing this bowling attack, they might make him a guaranteed England opener.
Not only that they will make Cook get 11000 Test runs by the end of the series.

Flat pitch or green pitch. Pak only perform in one innings. When they get 4-5-6 even 7 wickets - they take their foot off the gas.

Peace.

Ehh, what's arrogant or cocky about saying Pakistan won't get whitewashed in England? Grand, I know wobblers are well known for their hardline views, but come on that's a bit harsh man

Nothing wrong with Amir wearing a tahweez, each to their own, completely acceptable and doesn't conflict with taweed at all. No relevance there bro.

Sums up a lot of what is actually wrong with Pakistan and why is sad to see no cricket being played there, when you are bickering about a religious (symbol?).

What happened to freedom of choice eh?

Serial - you often chat nonsense, but your spot on on this occasion. Freedom of choice. Boom. Enough said.

You are obviously not from the north

Media only likes to attack 2

Muslims & Pakistan Cricket Team.

Guess what - the sheeps believe them (the media)

6 years is a long time for justice/redemption.

I just dont see anything in this Pak team to convince me that they have a bright future.

I guess im not blind like you. Take the green tinted glasses off. Come back to the real world or England destruction f Pak criket will.
Never mind England - even Moeen Ali & Adil Rashid will.

Salaams (peace)

Grand,

Actually I am from the north

I think we have a bright future bowling wise. No question about that. Batting is a concern but has been like that for many years, so what's changed? We'll win some and we'll lose some.... You're making out like we're the next Zimbabwe... We'll have our ups and downs bro.... That's what makes us a sporting team, no team has the divine right to 100% perfection


Anyway, when Pakistan do win a game (test odi or T20) please make sure you come and visit us on here.... I'll order the pies..... In fact the OP works at greggs the bakery- so he'll bring some...... If not the Indian bowlers always have plenty of pies to spare so shouldn't be a problem

I wish i had your optimism

However i will always be a realist. (& Humble - lol)

I care about Pak cricket however the scars of 2009-10 scandal still hurts. Its easy for you to move on and yes we had some good times like smashing England & Australia in Tests in the UAE

However none of that matters.

What matters is how you perform against England in Englands backyard.

We need unity and be motivated to right the wrongs and rise to the challenge.

Above all else - we need Tawheed otherwise "He" will not grant us victory.

Pakistan will not win in England. Not against Englands bowling unit.. Only chance if its a dry hot summer and the wickets are extremly flat. if they are Pakistan will have trouble bowling England out aswell

Grand,

You have to move on man, what's happened is done and we are now in a new era. Shtttt batsmen but different era still

If England beat us in England, so be it. We screw them over when we're on home conditions they do the same to us... Big deal. It's a draw. we've a history of doing better away from home than the other subcontinent teams... That gives us some hope....

Tawheed is in the heart mate... And so we can't and shouldn't judge others intentions... So someone wearing a tahweez is perfectly normal behaviour...

A14

Agree to disagree

Peace be with you

comment by englandwhoelse (U16825)
posted 4 minutes ago
Pakistan will not win in England. Not against Englands bowling unit.. Only chance if its a dry hot summer and the wickets are extremly flat. if they are Pakistan will have trouble bowling England out aswell
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England,

Agree on an England victory... But this guy seems to suggest that pak will lose every game they play in England in summer. I don't buy that. I don't even think we'll get a 4-0 whitewash in tests either. I really don't.

Grand


Salaam

Yawn

No because the weather is never guranteed in England..But if we get 4 interupted matches england will win 3 of em.. Not being biased. Trying to be honest . There will be times in test matches when the likes of Broad and Anderson will run through the pakistani top order like knife through butter..

Broad and Anderson are world class bowlers and they are pretty consistent in line these days..

(U16825)

Me & A14 are 2 very different Pak fans

A14 has his opinions & i have mine

So please do not associate his comments with mine.

I genuinely believe England will humiliate Pak 10-0.

As for the current series Kiwis will win 2-1 or 3-0. Quite possibly the latter due to Pak inability to "kill" teams off.

In England Anderson and Broad turn into world class bowlers. I can't see Pakistan doing much,especially considering they lack mental grit, ie. Bottle

(U16825)

Not just them (Anderson & Broad)
but they will make Finn & Woakes look world class to.

Pak batsmen are too weak. they have no fight.
They are not prepared to stand tall and stand their ground.
They are not prepared to fight fire with fire.

Its not just the physical contest on the pitch but also the mental test. 4 tests is a lot.

England will have played 7 tests matches this years before they play Pak while Pak will have played a big fat zero.

woakes wont get anywhere near the 11 when wood or finn is fit..