Local businesses will be withdrawing their support of the ST in the coming days due the ST failure to adhere to their own promise of being open and honest the ST have smashed any attempt by the fans to own their club now or in the future into the buffers by their inept self motivated greed.
We certainly haven't had any news of his recovery and his family have asked to be given privacy during this difficult time. Very convenient. I'm sure it's a difficult time but Gartside will come up smelling of roses. He has a very tasty pension to look forward to, whereas the employees of the club are looking to struggle their way through the next few weeks.
It is a proven fact that Davies, Gartside and probably all the remaining board members are a set of $cumbags..
It would seem that they don't want to be ousted from their roles in the club.
I think we all need to vote with our feet. will see this season out but if this board hang on to the club then thats me done as a season ticket holder. I don't think i will alone either.
I don' blame you Benny. All they want is the kudos of being a director of BWFC. NO NO NO. it's the money they get paid for knackering the club.
From what i hear. Gartside is in a critical condition. Little shameful what some.of u r suggesting. If he does die its not like he deserves it
Not sure what suggestions you are seeing, I don't see any personal remarks directed at Gartside implying he deserves his illness.
But he is partly responsible for where the club is today.
Not one person on this board has at any time since it was announced that he is ill in any way suggested that Gartside deserves it. In fact quite the opposite, even those who absolutely detest the man have sincerely wished him a full and speedy recovery.
What people are, understandably, becoming increasingly suspicious of is quite how ill he actually is. I say understandably because we have had no updates and he does have a track record of being shall we say "economical" with the truth. I would hate to think he would stoop as low as to claim he is critically ill in order to avoid his share of the blame for our current terrible position as a club on and off the field, however with how much of a shambles our club hierarchy has become, noting would shock me any more.
I don't believe anything that comes out of the club anymore. All crooks and liers imo.
ditto Benny.
I've just started a new thread for today up top.
BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 11 hours, 17 minutes ago
From what i hear. Gartside is in a critical condition. Little shameful what some.of u r suggesting. If he does die its not like he deserves it
You barer assuming too much with your pathetic comment that If he does die its not like he deserves it. I doubt anyone wants that.
What is your source that Gartside is critically ill? Please tell as we would all like to know. I think it's just a thought that you have conjured up in your head to have a go at some who are not sure that he is actually seriously ill. After all, there were reports that he had been seen out shortly after he departed from the club and what marvelous timing that was.
Also Clegg, I notice you didn't mention the staff having to struggle with not receiving their wages on time and not really knowing if they will get paid at all. No I suppose that's not something that you would think of.
We all know you think Gartside has been a fantastic chairman. Someday you may realize he has been a major factor in the downfall of the club but I doubt it.
The news was.....Gartside was seriously ill
- direct from the BEN - I’m sad to report that Phil is seriously ill at the moment and Trevor will now lead the negotiations on behalf of the board and the owner,” confirmed vice-chairman Brett Warburton.
Man of his age, seriously ill, is often life threatening.
What is abhorrent is to suggest that his illness is convenient........suggesting that its a lie, and that he has walked away.......Ive always been of the opinion, that if somebody says its life threatening, you take it as a truth at that time, as to sink that low would be disgusting. If it turns out it is a lie, then fair enough, Gartside is the one who has been morally repugnant!
SWIE - Its a shame for the BWFC staff and all that, its a shame for anybody who loses there jobs or made redundant. I just dont happen to feel the need to bang on about it and cry. Ive been made redundant, did BWFC offer cheaper tickets whilst looking for another job, was there a fund raiser for me.....or anybody else for that matter. No! its life, these things happen. I hope they find another job quickly.
i also didnt actually say any of you said he deserved it
Who has been made redundant at BWFC?
Do people lie?
Do some people take back handers?
People do die, it's a fact.
And some people actually pay Taxes.
working and not being paid for that work is different from being made redundant.
When made redundant and being on the dole, the dwp help you to get back into paid work, give vouchers for a new interview suit, pay towards travel to and from interviews.
The staff at BWFC do not qualify for those hand outs as they are technically in work.
BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 1 day, 12 hours ago
From what i hear. Gartside is in a critical condition. Little shameful what some.of u r suggesting. If he does die its not like he deserves it.
The clue in the fault of your last post indicating that you read the story in the BN. We all read that.
What you wrote is that you heard. That indicates that you had a conversation with someone, possibly in the know. So you actually tried to mislead members of the forum.
It's not abhorrent to suggest he lied. In case you have forgotten, he is a self confessed liar.
Just to remind you of your post here it is again.
From what i hear. Gartside is in a critical condition. Little shameful what some.of u r suggesting. If he does die its not like he deserves it
The important part I now refer to is, From what i hear. Gartside is in a critical condition. Little shameful what some.of u r suggesting. If he does die its not like he deserves it.
Well as I said I didn't imply that and never would. It's quite shameful that you would suggest that.
The problem with you is your a little man trying to have a go when it's not warranted and as an argument goes on you change tack to suit your own needs of trying to make a valid point. As I said before your pathetic you really should grow up.
This is my last post to you on this subject because no doubt you will only come up with a load of dribble.
Thank you for your contribution.
Its really easy and quite funny winding you up lol!
It's not abhorrent to suggest he lied. In case you have forgotten, he is a self confessed liar.....
it isnt abhorrent to suggest he lied about sayyyy transfer dealings, orrrrrrr players wages, or where he puts his wi11y at night.
Its abhorrent to suggest he has lied about his potential death. As i said, i feel that is morally the wrong thing to do. I prefer to assume that when talking about life and death, people tell the truth. HOWEVER, if found that he was lying, then it is him who has been morally repugnant.
Your easy pickings SWIE, far too easy
Your easy pickings because you pick out the little details and emphasize them to help your own ends. Whether heard, read or touched up in braille is irrelevant. The information available to YOU is the BEN article. I happen to have another source of information.....which only stands to confirm the BEN article, so was largely irrelevant on mentioning.
Perhaps in your exile you have forgotten what Boltons like, for its size its quite close knit, people seem to know each other, much more than similiar big towns i have lived in and been to, or have friends in. So its isnt beyond the realms of reality for me to know gartside personally, know someone who knows him personally, or know someone who knows someone who knows him personally.
Perhaps your fault is your dislike of my opinion.....you seem to take reservation against to opinions.....on the whole i think Gartside has been a good chairman - my opinion largely swayed by us experiencing the best ever period in the clubs history, i accept there have been failures that have cost us dearly, i just believe the decisions at the time where difficult.
You really hate that opinion. Its a shame for you really.
A lot of people on here disagree with my opinion, thats fine, im happy with that, and in fact see there opinion against mine as completely valid and understandable. Yet your the only one who displays the vitriol. So we ask ourselves who is the little pathetic man........i wonder
In reading your 1st comment on this thread, MY opinion is that you appear to suggest some of us should be shameful.
just because someone is 'seriously ill' does not translate to 'critically ill' that is just your assumption.
over his tenure as chairman, there seem to be some ambiguous and differing reports of his many deals, some of which warranted investigation.
It may just be coincidental that his illness was reported at the same time as the seriousness of he clubs current state.
Others have an opinion that he is indeed trying to pull a fast one In the seriousness of his illness, time will no doubt tell.
After all, we are all entitled to our own opinions and they will always differ from each others
comment by Isaac Hunt (Just like Them) (U2586)
posted 57 minutes ago
In reading your 1st comment on this thread, MY opinion is that you appear to suggest some of us should be shameful.
just because someone is 'seriously ill' does not translate to 'critically ill' that is just your assumption.
over his tenure as chairman, there seem to be some ambiguous and differing reports of his many deals, some of which warranted investigation.
It may just be coincidental that his illness was reported at the same time as the seriousness of he clubs current state.
Others have an opinion that he is indeed trying to pull a fast one In the seriousness of his illness, time will no doubt tell.
After all, we are all entitled to our own opinions and they will always differ from each others
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Indeed you are....i have no reservations with your opinions or have any hate or vitriol towards any of you. I just think its a shameful thing to do when considering life and death. That is my opinion, yours is different, great, fine.....surely thats the point?
Some interesting comments from mr gartside in 2004 http://www.leedsunited-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/bolton_chief_leeds_action_wrong__unfair_155483/index.shtml
Also http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/01/28/take-it-on-the-chin-boltons-gartsides-comments-about-leeds-finan/ Mr gartside re leeds 2004 "pledged that he would never let it get this bad". "If you gamble and fail you have to take the consequences"
I also seen that Ken Bates didn't want anything to do with a takeover bid after being approached by clever trevor
But Benny its not real debt at Bolton its magic debt I would have thought the board member (Brett) who wants his money paying back would have listened to his chairman when he said it wasn't real debt.
Not long less than four weeks before its down to London again to see the judge again do you think the car park deal will be done by then or has the judge got one of those special 48hr watches I keep hearing about.
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posted on 26/1/16
Local businesses will be withdrawing their support of the ST in the coming days due the ST failure to adhere to their own promise of being open and honest the ST have smashed any attempt by the fans to own their club now or in the future into the buffers by their inept self motivated greed.
posted on 26/1/16
We certainly haven't had any news of his recovery and his family have asked to be given privacy during this difficult time. Very convenient. I'm sure it's a difficult time but Gartside will come up smelling of roses. He has a very tasty pension to look forward to, whereas the employees of the club are looking to struggle their way through the next few weeks.
It is a proven fact that Davies, Gartside and probably all the remaining board members are a set of $cumbags..
It would seem that they don't want to be ousted from their roles in the club.
posted on 26/1/16
I think we all need to vote with our feet. will see this season out but if this board hang on to the club then thats me done as a season ticket holder. I don't think i will alone either.
posted on 26/1/16
I don' blame you Benny. All they want is the kudos of being a director of BWFC. NO NO NO. it's the money they get paid for knackering the club.
posted on 26/1/16
From what i hear. Gartside is in a critical condition. Little shameful what some.of u r suggesting. If he does die its not like he deserves it
posted on 26/1/16
Not sure what suggestions you are seeing, I don't see any personal remarks directed at Gartside implying he deserves his illness.
But he is partly responsible for where the club is today.
posted on 26/1/16
Not one person on this board has at any time since it was announced that he is ill in any way suggested that Gartside deserves it. In fact quite the opposite, even those who absolutely detest the man have sincerely wished him a full and speedy recovery.
What people are, understandably, becoming increasingly suspicious of is quite how ill he actually is. I say understandably because we have had no updates and he does have a track record of being shall we say "economical" with the truth. I would hate to think he would stoop as low as to claim he is critically ill in order to avoid his share of the blame for our current terrible position as a club on and off the field, however with how much of a shambles our club hierarchy has become, noting would shock me any more.
posted on 27/1/16
I don't believe anything that comes out of the club anymore. All crooks and liers imo.
posted on 27/1/16
ditto Benny.
I've just started a new thread for today up top.
posted on 27/1/16
BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 11 hours, 17 minutes ago
From what i hear. Gartside is in a critical condition. Little shameful what some.of u r suggesting. If he does die its not like he deserves it
You barer assuming too much with your pathetic comment that If he does die its not like he deserves it. I doubt anyone wants that.
What is your source that Gartside is critically ill? Please tell as we would all like to know. I think it's just a thought that you have conjured up in your head to have a go at some who are not sure that he is actually seriously ill. After all, there were reports that he had been seen out shortly after he departed from the club and what marvelous timing that was.
posted on 27/1/16
Also Clegg, I notice you didn't mention the staff having to struggle with not receiving their wages on time and not really knowing if they will get paid at all. No I suppose that's not something that you would think of.
We all know you think Gartside has been a fantastic chairman. Someday you may realize he has been a major factor in the downfall of the club but I doubt it.
posted on 27/1/16
The news was.....Gartside was seriously ill
- direct from the BEN - I’m sad to report that Phil is seriously ill at the moment and Trevor will now lead the negotiations on behalf of the board and the owner,” confirmed vice-chairman Brett Warburton.
Man of his age, seriously ill, is often life threatening.
What is abhorrent is to suggest that his illness is convenient........suggesting that its a lie, and that he has walked away.......Ive always been of the opinion, that if somebody says its life threatening, you take it as a truth at that time, as to sink that low would be disgusting. If it turns out it is a lie, then fair enough, Gartside is the one who has been morally repugnant!
SWIE - Its a shame for the BWFC staff and all that, its a shame for anybody who loses there jobs or made redundant. I just dont happen to feel the need to bang on about it and cry. Ive been made redundant, did BWFC offer cheaper tickets whilst looking for another job, was there a fund raiser for me.....or anybody else for that matter. No! its life, these things happen. I hope they find another job quickly.
i also didnt actually say any of you said he deserved it
posted on 27/1/16
Who has been made redundant at BWFC?
Do people lie?
Do some people take back handers?
People do die, it's a fact.
And some people actually pay Taxes.
posted on 27/1/16
working and not being paid for that work is different from being made redundant.
When made redundant and being on the dole, the dwp help you to get back into paid work, give vouchers for a new interview suit, pay towards travel to and from interviews.
The staff at BWFC do not qualify for those hand outs as they are technically in work.
posted on 28/1/16
BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 1 day, 12 hours ago
From what i hear. Gartside is in a critical condition. Little shameful what some.of u r suggesting. If he does die its not like he deserves it.
The clue in the fault of your last post indicating that you read the story in the BN. We all read that.
What you wrote is that you heard. That indicates that you had a conversation with someone, possibly in the know. So you actually tried to mislead members of the forum.
It's not abhorrent to suggest he lied. In case you have forgotten, he is a self confessed liar.
Just to remind you of your post here it is again.
From what i hear. Gartside is in a critical condition. Little shameful what some.of u r suggesting. If he does die its not like he deserves it
The important part I now refer to is, From what i hear. Gartside is in a critical condition. Little shameful what some.of u r suggesting. If he does die its not like he deserves it.
Well as I said I didn't imply that and never would. It's quite shameful that you would suggest that.
The problem with you is your a little man trying to have a go when it's not warranted and as an argument goes on you change tack to suit your own needs of trying to make a valid point. As I said before your pathetic you really should grow up.
This is my last post to you on this subject because no doubt you will only come up with a load of dribble.
Thank you for your contribution.
posted on 28/1/16
Its really easy and quite funny winding you up lol!
posted on 28/1/16
It's not abhorrent to suggest he lied. In case you have forgotten, he is a self confessed liar.....
it isnt abhorrent to suggest he lied about sayyyy transfer dealings, orrrrrrr players wages, or where he puts his wi11y at night.
Its abhorrent to suggest he has lied about his potential death. As i said, i feel that is morally the wrong thing to do. I prefer to assume that when talking about life and death, people tell the truth. HOWEVER, if found that he was lying, then it is him who has been morally repugnant.
Your easy pickings SWIE, far too easy
posted on 28/1/16
Your easy pickings because you pick out the little details and emphasize them to help your own ends. Whether heard, read or touched up in braille is irrelevant. The information available to YOU is the BEN article. I happen to have another source of information.....which only stands to confirm the BEN article, so was largely irrelevant on mentioning.
Perhaps in your exile you have forgotten what Boltons like, for its size its quite close knit, people seem to know each other, much more than similiar big towns i have lived in and been to, or have friends in. So its isnt beyond the realms of reality for me to know gartside personally, know someone who knows him personally, or know someone who knows someone who knows him personally.
Perhaps your fault is your dislike of my opinion.....you seem to take reservation against to opinions.....on the whole i think Gartside has been a good chairman - my opinion largely swayed by us experiencing the best ever period in the clubs history, i accept there have been failures that have cost us dearly, i just believe the decisions at the time where difficult.
You really hate that opinion. Its a shame for you really.
A lot of people on here disagree with my opinion, thats fine, im happy with that, and in fact see there opinion against mine as completely valid and understandable. Yet your the only one who displays the vitriol. So we ask ourselves who is the little pathetic man........i wonder
posted on 28/1/16
In reading your 1st comment on this thread, MY opinion is that you appear to suggest some of us should be shameful.
just because someone is 'seriously ill' does not translate to 'critically ill' that is just your assumption.
over his tenure as chairman, there seem to be some ambiguous and differing reports of his many deals, some of which warranted investigation.
It may just be coincidental that his illness was reported at the same time as the seriousness of he clubs current state.
Others have an opinion that he is indeed trying to pull a fast one In the seriousness of his illness, time will no doubt tell.
After all, we are all entitled to our own opinions and they will always differ from each others
posted on 28/1/16
comment by Isaac Hunt (Just like Them) (U2586)
posted 57 minutes ago
In reading your 1st comment on this thread, MY opinion is that you appear to suggest some of us should be shameful.
just because someone is 'seriously ill' does not translate to 'critically ill' that is just your assumption.
over his tenure as chairman, there seem to be some ambiguous and differing reports of his many deals, some of which warranted investigation.
It may just be coincidental that his illness was reported at the same time as the seriousness of he clubs current state.
Others have an opinion that he is indeed trying to pull a fast one In the seriousness of his illness, time will no doubt tell.
After all, we are all entitled to our own opinions and they will always differ from each others
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Indeed you are....i have no reservations with your opinions or have any hate or vitriol towards any of you. I just think its a shameful thing to do when considering life and death. That is my opinion, yours is different, great, fine.....surely thats the point?
posted on 28/1/16
posted on 28/1/16
Some interesting comments from mr gartside in 2004 http://www.leedsunited-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/bolton_chief_leeds_action_wrong__unfair_155483/index.shtml
posted on 28/1/16
Also http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/01/28/take-it-on-the-chin-boltons-gartsides-comments-about-leeds-finan/ Mr gartside re leeds 2004 "pledged that he would never let it get this bad". "If you gamble and fail you have to take the consequences"
posted on 28/1/16
I also seen that Ken Bates didn't want anything to do with a takeover bid after being approached by clever trevor
posted on 28/1/16
But Benny its not real debt at Bolton its magic debt I would have thought the board member (Brett) who wants his money paying back would have listened to his chairman when he said it wasn't real debt.
Not long less than four weeks before its down to London again to see the judge again do you think the car park deal will be done by then or has the judge got one of those special 48hr watches I keep hearing about.
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