I agree with you to an extent but I have to say that personally I'll blame Jose for most of the problems this season, Eva's wrongful dismissal is having far reaching effects and then the arrogant expulsion or sale of some of our talented players...
Just out of interest, how many teams have taken more points than this "sorry bunch" since Hiddink took over? Jose completely lost the dressing room and had to go. But your squad and results are still pretty strong imo, certainly in terms of this poor Premier League, if not Europe. You could be worse off, you could have got LVG, who ripped the United squad apart, and has given the next manager a huge job to do.
Mstv,
yes Guss has steadied the ship, but come on were 20 points off Leicester , out classed by PSg, and bounced out of the FAcup by Everton.
This squad is an insult to past squads and there achievements in the Abramovich era.
Yes I'm sure we doing better than some clubs, but when you look at the money these players are on and the expectation of the club we are not where we should be imo.
United have spent a lot more and are worse and still have the cancer in the dugout. Be thankful yous can at least look forward and have a smaller rebuilding job than we do. Not much to be thankful for, admittedly as LVG has taken the pee during his tenure
, agreed it could be worse, but Roman does need to start to change the way he is doing things.mo.
I can already predict what will happen with us this week too. We'll draw today and win 1 nil on Thursday, effectively being eliminated from two competitions and LVG will be bullish and assure us that we're progressing <where's that shudder smiley when you need it>
Going forward Roman needs to change the way he runs the club if he wants a long term sustainable format for running the club.
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What are your suggestions then ?
Suggestions , no problem, but before i start how do you feel about the prospects for the club going forward ?
Any ideas ?
In my opinion Roman re-hired Jose, had long term plans. In the nutshell the following main objectives were outlined to him prior to taking the job :-
Short term strategies (stage 1)
1) To achieve instant success, by adding selling few players to make the this team challenge for the title.
Long term strategy (stage 2)
2) To introduce youth players into the first team whilst sustaining success
3) To introduce a good brand of football
4) To maintain a good public image
My view on this is that the board was buoyant after Jose successfully completed stage 1 and trusted him to complete stage 2. Hence, rewarding Jose with another contract extension.
ok,
going over your comments,
1, Agreed
2, I think the clubs ambition effects our managers ability to nurture our younger players.
2, i also feel the club didn't back Jose properly going into this season.
3/4 , Well all know how that went.
But going forward imo, the club Roman need to balance the ambition by giving the manager room to give our best and brightest prospects the ability to flourish..
Our current loan system needs to be scrapped.
The footballing side of the club should be run by footballers, and not inadequately informed amateurs.
The club need to rebuild the spine, using a back bone of our best youth players along side key quality players.
Our managers need to backed and enabled to lead by example.
They are basically the key changes i would hope the owner consider.
As you well know Cfc have the EPLs highest wage bill,
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I thought that was no longer the case from quite a while back??
I am jus sick of it all,
Want this season to end and see what we do to make sure we are back in same mess again, as we all know this will happen time and time again as we have fools on the board
But right now I just want to say I have E lighted that hiddink will not stay on, don't know how much more i can of him laughing of defeats
We will never learn from our mistakes, wait and see, we shall jus wave the cheque book again as this is all we know
Chalobah, baker, Christiansen, kenedy, traore, and many more will all loaned out again replaced with mercenaries who know nothing about the club,
Alright Brummie
No last season we posted the highest bill at just over 200m in front of City ,Untd and AfC
Some one needs talking to imo
legend , oh come on don't be so harsh to Guss at least he restored some sanity
Morning iffy
I shall take your word for it then
Hi iffy
Didn't read you whole article but our wage bill is highest due to over youths(biggest in numbers) and loanees.
Throw in 10m for Pato and Falcao as well
Hello stranger, trust your al good, glad to the Tavernes been open
Yes i know our loanees are making up a significant part of our wages, money that should be going on a better quality 1st 11 imo .
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Exactly side show, but it does come to .a significant sum, i would prefer we gave the younger players more of a opportunity.
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posted on 13/3/16
I agree with you to an extent but I have to say that personally I'll blame Jose for most of the problems this season, Eva's wrongful dismissal is having far reaching effects and then the arrogant expulsion or sale of some of our talented players...
posted on 13/3/16
posted on 13/3/16
Just out of interest, how many teams have taken more points than this "sorry bunch" since Hiddink took over? Jose completely lost the dressing room and had to go. But your squad and results are still pretty strong imo, certainly in terms of this poor Premier League, if not Europe. You could be worse off, you could have got LVG, who ripped the United squad apart, and has given the next manager a huge job to do.
posted on 13/3/16
Mstv,
yes Guss has steadied the ship, but come on were 20 points off Leicester , out classed by PSg, and bounced out of the FAcup by Everton.
This squad is an insult to past squads and there achievements in the Abramovich era.
Yes I'm sure we doing better than some clubs, but when you look at the money these players are on and the expectation of the club we are not where we should be imo.
posted on 13/3/16
United have spent a lot more and are worse and still have the cancer in the dugout. Be thankful yous can at least look forward and have a smaller rebuilding job than we do. Not much to be thankful for, admittedly as LVG has taken the pee during his tenure
posted on 13/3/16
, agreed it could be worse, but Roman does need to start to change the way he is doing things.mo.
posted on 13/3/16
Agreed
posted on 13/3/16
I can already predict what will happen with us this week too. We'll draw today and win 1 nil on Thursday, effectively being eliminated from two competitions and LVG will be bullish and assure us that we're progressing <where's that shudder smiley when you need it>
posted on 13/3/16
Going forward Roman needs to change the way he runs the club if he wants a long term sustainable format for running the club.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
What are your suggestions then ?
posted on 13/3/16
Suggestions , no problem, but before i start how do you feel about the prospects for the club going forward ?
Any ideas ?
posted on 13/3/16
posted on 13/3/16
agreed
posted on 13/3/16
In my opinion Roman re-hired Jose, had long term plans. In the nutshell the following main objectives were outlined to him prior to taking the job :-
Short term strategies (stage 1)
1) To achieve instant success, by adding selling few players to make the this team challenge for the title.
Long term strategy (stage 2)
2) To introduce youth players into the first team whilst sustaining success
3) To introduce a good brand of football
4) To maintain a good public image
My view on this is that the board was buoyant after Jose successfully completed stage 1 and trusted him to complete stage 2. Hence, rewarding Jose with another contract extension.
posted on 13/3/16
ok,
going over your comments,
1, Agreed
2, I think the clubs ambition effects our managers ability to nurture our younger players.
2, i also feel the club didn't back Jose properly going into this season.
3/4 , Well all know how that went.
But going forward imo, the club Roman need to balance the ambition by giving the manager room to give our best and brightest prospects the ability to flourish..
Our current loan system needs to be scrapped.
The footballing side of the club should be run by footballers, and not inadequately informed amateurs.
The club need to rebuild the spine, using a back bone of our best youth players along side key quality players.
Our managers need to backed and enabled to lead by example.
They are basically the key changes i would hope the owner consider.
posted on 13/3/16
As you well know Cfc have the EPLs highest wage bill,
------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought that was no longer the case from quite a while back??
posted on 13/3/16
I am jus sick of it all,
Want this season to end and see what we do to make sure we are back in same mess again, as we all know this will happen time and time again as we have fools on the board
But right now I just want to say I have E lighted that hiddink will not stay on, don't know how much more i can of him laughing of defeats
We will never learn from our mistakes, wait and see, we shall jus wave the cheque book again as this is all we know
Chalobah, baker, Christiansen, kenedy, traore, and many more will all loaned out again replaced with mercenaries who know nothing about the club,
posted on 13/3/16
Alright Brummie
No last season we posted the highest bill at just over 200m in front of City ,Untd and AfC
Some one needs talking to imo
posted on 13/3/16
legend , oh come on don't be so harsh to Guss at least he restored some sanity
posted on 13/3/16
Morning iffy
I shall take your word for it then
posted on 13/3/16
Hi iffy
Didn't read you whole article but our wage bill is highest due to over youths(biggest in numbers) and loanees.
Throw in 10m for Pato and Falcao as well
posted on 13/3/16
Hello stranger, trust your al good, glad to the Tavernes been open
Yes i know our loanees are making up a significant part of our wages, money that should be going on a better quality 1st 11 imo .
posted on 13/3/16
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posted on 13/3/16
Exactly side show, but it does come to .a significant sum, i would prefer we gave the younger players more of a opportunity.
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