comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 24 minutes ago
You would have no idea what constitutes the attributes of a Klopp player because your football knowledge could be written across the 1 remaining strand of Donald Trumps real hairline.
Bellerin a left back and on loan
FACK. ME.
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I'll still defend Moreno who's greatly improved under Klopp (wasn't playing at Southampton don't forget before you all blame him for that) and will continue to do so.
Why sell him and have to spend yet more money to replace him?!
I'd like us to go for some one like Cresswell but also keep Moreno as backup.
I know he's another saint but Bertrands as solid as they come even though he's not great going forward
In fact for the ridicule alone, better leave that one...
comment by 李贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 9 minutes ago
I'll still defend Moreno who's greatly improved under Klopp (wasn't playing at Southampton don't forget before you all blame him for that) and will continue to do so.
Why sell him and have to spend yet more money to replace him?!
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Totally agree. I think there's an excellent left back somewhere in Moreno and I'd like him to be given at least another season to show development.
The England LBs this summer will possibly be Rose, who was being dismissed by Spurs fans as not good enough a couple of years ago, and Bertrand, who Chelsea ditched and only Southampton showed interest in. In fact I remember plenty on here saying they didn't want Bertrand at the time - that he wasn't good enough.
The point is, players improve. Moreno can improve and Klopp clearly sees something in him because he's played a lot of games, albeit with a lack of competition.
Besides the fact that no Arsenal first team player would move from them to us(understandably) and he's a right back(you often get your sides messed up) and he's not on loan(no idea why you thought he was) I think he'd be a good target. Good scouting GB.
I'd definitely keep Moreno. He'll be a top left back soon enough. The potential he has shown is incredible. He makes way too many judgement errors but that can be cut out. He has everything you look for in a left back, when the errors have been cut, if indeed they are, he'll be one of the best in the world. He just needs to be managed and taught.
I see no reason to sell him, by all means get another left back in but we have no need to sell. Personally I'd stick with playing Flanagan or Clyne at left back when we need to play a more solid game, meaning plenty of games for all three of them.
Some people may say why talk about potential in regards to Moreno when he'll be 24 in July, however I think Moreno is very immature and that's the major reason why he makes these judgement errors. I think it will just click in the near future when he matures.
I do not envisage Joe Allen going, I think he will be staying. The same applies to Moreno. Hopefully, more effective coaching will make him a better defender than he presently is.
JimmyTheRed
Bellerin the LB on loan, jesus wept GB, learn something about football.
Still not sure on Moreno
He's a poor defender, loves a crazy tackle, makes rash decisions cause his positional sense is poor.
His attacking game is average at best, bar running fast with the ball and having a powerful left foot he's got nothing else, can't cross the ball just smashes it off the first defender.
I hope he improves if we keep him, which I think we will, and he's talented but his application leaves allot to be desired.
Hope I'm wrong.
I don't think many 1st team squad players will actually leave, think it'll be mainly fringe players - Wisdom, Bogdan, Alberto, Enrique, Ilori.
Only big players I can see going would be Mario and Benteke if we can find buyers and Toure.
Interesting one for me is the Henderson rumours. I can't really explain why because I'm usually very dismissive of such stories, but this has a ring of truth to it for me. He's looked quite rattled on the pitch of late, almost desperate to impress. Perhaps he's playing for his future? As I said, no reason to think it's true but still I wonder...
We've seen Klopp can get a trick out of the current squad, we've had some great performances under him.
But we are too inconsistent, hopefully a full preseason can address that to a degree.
For me 100% first signing has to be a keeper, Mig is just not good enough, and his 'shot stopping' can be decent but it's not amazing.
His distribution is shocking and again cost us a goal at the weekend.
3-4 quality players is all I hope we go for, problem is it's nearly a spine we need.
Have high hopes for Ings under Klopp though, he's almost forgotten about but ticks all the boxes Klopp want's in a striker. Joe Gomez too is another who could play a role next season.
I could see Toure, Skrtel, Illori, Wisdom, Balo, Benteke and Allen all being shown the door tbh.
I certainly don't think Moreno will leave and I'm pretty sure we'll bring in a keeper.
The club bidding big for Texiera is a sign of what kind of position Klopp has been looking at and I see Witzel has been in the rumour pages and I've been banging on about him for ages.
If we don't bring in some experience though, and just keep signing potential which so far we have in Grujic, Allan and so on then we'll remain inconsistent.
be-Wan Kenobi (U6997)
posted 40 minutes ago
I don't think many 1st team squad players will actually leave, think it'll be mainly fringe players - Wisdom, Bogdan, Alberto, Enrique, Ilori.
Only big players I can see going would be Mario and Benteke if we can find buyers and Toure
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^ This and I don't really want them to either. Maybe it would be time for Lucas to be given a decent send off if we are going to bring in a couple of MF's.
My point this summer would be to upgrade the first 11 by around 4 players (GK/LB/MF/AM) and possibly add a CB if we can.
After that id keep everyone else as its a long season and if some of our current first team players end up as squad players to cover for injuries etc I will be very happy with the squad.
Only concern would be is that the players coming in are an upgrade as when BR tried to do this it didn't work at all.
oh and yeah id be happy to sell Skrtel which is not knee jerk from Sunday I just think that Lovren, Matip, Sakho are all ahead of him now. Bring one more in (Sule maybe) and id be happy with that knowing that we also have Gomez to develop.
How will you pay for these players Got_better, Mane, Lacazette and Gotze would cost you in the region of 90m alone
comment by Rauben_Hoody - gesticulation doesn't bother me (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
With money I think MUDD.
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What about livestock?
We could throw in some chickens?
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 36 minutes ago
Joe Allen keeps chickens
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hens and he only has 14 and all have names... surely we wouldn't give Joe's birds away?
comment by Scouse-Heart (U3234)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 36 minutes ago
Joe Allen keeps chickens
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hens and he only has 14 and all have names... surely we wouldn't give Joe's birds away?
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Could be a way to motivate Joe...
Play well or your bird gets it!
Apparently John Terry uses this technique.
That's not how Terry works. No motivational speeches at all.
Play good or bad and Terry gives it to your bird anyway
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posted on 23/3/16
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 24 minutes ago
You would have no idea what constitutes the attributes of a Klopp player because your football knowledge could be written across the 1 remaining strand of Donald Trumps real hairline.
Bellerin a left back and on loan
FACK. ME.
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posted on 23/3/16
I'll still defend Moreno who's greatly improved under Klopp (wasn't playing at Southampton don't forget before you all blame him for that) and will continue to do so.
Why sell him and have to spend yet more money to replace him?!
posted on 23/3/16
I'd like us to go for some one like Cresswell but also keep Moreno as backup.
posted on 23/3/16
I know he's another saint but Bertrands as solid as they come even though he's not great going forward
In fact for the ridicule alone, better leave that one...
posted on 23/3/16
comment by 李贝 If anyone can, Emre Can... And don't call me Schürrle (U3979)
posted 9 minutes ago
I'll still defend Moreno who's greatly improved under Klopp (wasn't playing at Southampton don't forget before you all blame him for that) and will continue to do so.
Why sell him and have to spend yet more money to replace him?!
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Totally agree. I think there's an excellent left back somewhere in Moreno and I'd like him to be given at least another season to show development.
The England LBs this summer will possibly be Rose, who was being dismissed by Spurs fans as not good enough a couple of years ago, and Bertrand, who Chelsea ditched and only Southampton showed interest in. In fact I remember plenty on here saying they didn't want Bertrand at the time - that he wasn't good enough.
The point is, players improve. Moreno can improve and Klopp clearly sees something in him because he's played a lot of games, albeit with a lack of competition.
posted on 23/3/16
Besides the fact that no Arsenal first team player would move from them to us(understandably) and he's a right back(you often get your sides messed up) and he's not on loan(no idea why you thought he was) I think he'd be a good target. Good scouting GB.
posted on 23/3/16
I'd definitely keep Moreno. He'll be a top left back soon enough. The potential he has shown is incredible. He makes way too many judgement errors but that can be cut out. He has everything you look for in a left back, when the errors have been cut, if indeed they are, he'll be one of the best in the world. He just needs to be managed and taught.
I see no reason to sell him, by all means get another left back in but we have no need to sell. Personally I'd stick with playing Flanagan or Clyne at left back when we need to play a more solid game, meaning plenty of games for all three of them.
posted on 23/3/16
Some people may say why talk about potential in regards to Moreno when he'll be 24 in July, however I think Moreno is very immature and that's the major reason why he makes these judgement errors. I think it will just click in the near future when he matures.
posted on 23/3/16
I do not envisage Joe Allen going, I think he will be staying. The same applies to Moreno. Hopefully, more effective coaching will make him a better defender than he presently is.
JimmyTheRed
posted on 23/3/16
Bellerin the LB on loan, jesus wept GB, learn something about football.
posted on 23/3/16
Still not sure on Moreno
He's a poor defender, loves a crazy tackle, makes rash decisions cause his positional sense is poor.
His attacking game is average at best, bar running fast with the ball and having a powerful left foot he's got nothing else, can't cross the ball just smashes it off the first defender.
I hope he improves if we keep him, which I think we will, and he's talented but his application leaves allot to be desired.
Hope I'm wrong.
posted on 23/3/16
I don't think many 1st team squad players will actually leave, think it'll be mainly fringe players - Wisdom, Bogdan, Alberto, Enrique, Ilori.
Only big players I can see going would be Mario and Benteke if we can find buyers and Toure.
Interesting one for me is the Henderson rumours. I can't really explain why because I'm usually very dismissive of such stories, but this has a ring of truth to it for me. He's looked quite rattled on the pitch of late, almost desperate to impress. Perhaps he's playing for his future? As I said, no reason to think it's true but still I wonder...
posted on 23/3/16
We've seen Klopp can get a trick out of the current squad, we've had some great performances under him.
But we are too inconsistent, hopefully a full preseason can address that to a degree.
For me 100% first signing has to be a keeper, Mig is just not good enough, and his 'shot stopping' can be decent but it's not amazing.
His distribution is shocking and again cost us a goal at the weekend.
3-4 quality players is all I hope we go for, problem is it's nearly a spine we need.
Have high hopes for Ings under Klopp though, he's almost forgotten about but ticks all the boxes Klopp want's in a striker. Joe Gomez too is another who could play a role next season.
posted on 23/3/16
I could see Toure, Skrtel, Illori, Wisdom, Balo, Benteke and Allen all being shown the door tbh.
I certainly don't think Moreno will leave and I'm pretty sure we'll bring in a keeper.
The club bidding big for Texiera is a sign of what kind of position Klopp has been looking at and I see Witzel has been in the rumour pages and I've been banging on about him for ages.
If we don't bring in some experience though, and just keep signing potential which so far we have in Grujic, Allan and so on then we'll remain inconsistent.
posted on 23/3/16
be-Wan Kenobi (U6997)
posted 40 minutes ago
I don't think many 1st team squad players will actually leave, think it'll be mainly fringe players - Wisdom, Bogdan, Alberto, Enrique, Ilori.
Only big players I can see going would be Mario and Benteke if we can find buyers and Toure
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^ This and I don't really want them to either. Maybe it would be time for Lucas to be given a decent send off if we are going to bring in a couple of MF's.
My point this summer would be to upgrade the first 11 by around 4 players (GK/LB/MF/AM) and possibly add a CB if we can.
After that id keep everyone else as its a long season and if some of our current first team players end up as squad players to cover for injuries etc I will be very happy with the squad.
Only concern would be is that the players coming in are an upgrade as when BR tried to do this it didn't work at all.
posted on 23/3/16
oh and yeah id be happy to sell Skrtel which is not knee jerk from Sunday I just think that Lovren, Matip, Sakho are all ahead of him now. Bring one more in (Sule maybe) and id be happy with that knowing that we also have Gomez to develop.
posted on 23/3/16
How will you pay for these players Got_better, Mane, Lacazette and Gotze would cost you in the region of 90m alone
posted on 23/3/16
With money I think MUDD.
posted on 23/3/16
comment by Rauben_Hoody - gesticulation doesn't bother me (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
With money I think MUDD.
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What about livestock?
posted on 23/3/16
We could throw in some chickens?
posted on 23/3/16
Joe Allen keeps chickens
posted on 23/3/16
Livestock 😂😂😂
posted on 23/3/16
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 36 minutes ago
Joe Allen keeps chickens
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hens and he only has 14 and all have names... surely we wouldn't give Joe's birds away?
posted on 23/3/16
comment by Scouse-Heart (U3234)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 36 minutes ago
Joe Allen keeps chickens
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hens and he only has 14 and all have names... surely we wouldn't give Joe's birds away?
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Could be a way to motivate Joe...
Play well or your bird gets it!
Apparently John Terry uses this technique.
posted on 23/3/16
That's not how Terry works. No motivational speeches at all.
Play good or bad and Terry gives it to your bird anyway
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