You worry too much.

We do need a chief exec (which Fawaz says is in the pipeline) who needs to be allowed to do his job. We need a half decent manager, who won't be easy to find I grant you. And we need a relatively (serious) injury free season.

I'm not saying we will turn things around, but I do think we will halt the decline. The problem is that might not be enough for Fawaz. He doesn't give his managers time to build a platform (or should that be a launch pad).

This season I think DF was doing just that. He had put together a back five who, until the injury to Lansbury, were not giving away many goals. He has proven he has some good contacts and has brought in some good players, including two fine left backs. Had he been allowed to repeat that modest success next season I think we might not have been too far off.

can't believe I am evening suggesting this but we need someone like Neil Warnock, not overly keen on the man as a person, but boy does he know his way around the championship. I thought Rotherham were dead and buried, there is every likelihood that next week they will go above us in the table, we will survive this season, almost certainly, but may well end up filling the slot above the drop zone. Quite simple nowhere near good enough. Could never see 'Colin' working for FAH but unfortunately he is exactly what we need.

With today's results we're definitely safe for this season, just with rotherhams recent resurgent under Colin we'll finished 4th from bottom.

A backroom restructure.
Clear out of high earners.
An influx of quality players.
A manager who works well under restrictions.
A CEO
Get out and stay out of embargo.


1) we needed before fawas came in.
2) we probably is the most likely to happen
3) won't happen without going back into embargo
4) evidently just sacked one
5) fawas has a track record of not listening to them

Hope for the best, with some shrewd business, but it's very unlikely in my eyes

I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't come out of embargo, or if we do, are restricted by the £39M over three seasons backdated to last year?

Al-Feckwit is already sounding like a spoilt kid who keeps asking 'but why can't I have it?'

The new's that we were still to be financially restricted may be what caused the row that got Doug sacked?

DF was watching Leeds today, and I suspect that he'll be their next boss, next season, and good luck to him, without that 13 game run we'd be in all sorts of brown stuff.

Funny how he's derided on twitter but when he had the players he signed fit and well we were very comfortable, and actually playing really well.

I think that had he been manager next year with restrictions lifted he'd get us a top 6 spot. Would have. God knows where the next mug will take us.

I agree Al. He was doing a decent job, had a great eye for a player and had to deal with so many injuries and set backs. He's hardly the grim reaper, Palace fans aren't complaining.

I would actually rate Freedman alongside SOD for wasted opportunities by Fawaz, and I truly do not understand the amount of hate he's getting from some fans.

If it was up to me he'd still be manager, and it's conjecture I know, but I bet we'd have more than 46 points now.

Funny how he's derided on twitter but when he had the players he signed fit and well we were very comfortable, and actually playing really well.
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I don't totally agree with that statement Al

It's easy to look back and paper over some of the woeful displays and results we had with Freedman, even with a relatively full squad

Bristol City away, bottom of the league, hadn't won or scored for ages...that was until we turned up

Plus many other suspect performances that resulted us in conceding last minute goals - I agree he was doing a half decent job under the circumstances, but Freedman was never, ever going to be anything more than a mid table manager - he was far too cautious and concerned about that opposition rather than concentrating on our teams ability .

That's my opinion anyway. He was OK, but some of our performances were absolute crap under him

If Fawaz wants promotion, he should beg Warnock to come, give him a budget that sticks to FFP, and then BOGGER OFF BACK TO KUWAIT for 9 months.

Since he took over at Rotherham, with the same squad they've had all season they're suddenly unbeatable - 6 wins and two draws out of the last 8. If he can do that there he surely could get the talented squad we have, promoted.

If Fawaz wants promotion, he should beg Warnock to come, give him a budget that sticks to FFP, and then BOGGER OFF BACK TO KUWAIT for 9 months.

Since he took over at Rotherham, with the same squad they've had all season they're suddenly unbeatable - 6 wins and two draws out of the last 8. If he can do that there he surely could get the talented squad we have, promoted.
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Now that I agree with - even though I really can't stand Warnock - he's exactly what we need to kick the ar$e of some of these players

Mind you if we ever go promoted, he'd need to be sacked immediately, cos he'd take us straight back down again

I totally accept what you're saying FBB, and agree there was some appalling dross under Freedman this season, but in that 13 game run we were largely sorted, but for a goal scorer we'd have won at least a dozen more points, and we'd be comfortably top half now, even after losing 7 of the last 9 games.

Paul Williams never stood a chance, and if we get another point it will be a miracle, but fortunately it appears that 46 may be enough... just.

Yes there were some awful performances under Freedman but I think he was working with what he had. And no matter what some people think, our squad isn't that great, and when you take Britt, Fryatt, Reid, Cohen, Lansbury out of it then it is particularly poor. The signing of Oliveira has possibly saved us from relegation but having Dex and O'Grady as back up strikers has probably stopped us from doing much better. But I guess that's what you get when you have no money.

yep agree with both those above comments

Has O'Grady or Dex scored at all this season?

They've both definitely scored this season, and I think Dex may have got a couple, but no more than 4 goals between them at most. Very fearsome combination - for our fans!

He problems at Forest run a lot deeper than the management position. Too simplistic to try and lay all the problems at the door of DF. Worked fairly well with what he had. Certainly a lot better than Williams has managed since, although it was a poisoned chalice for whoever took the job in that situation.

If Forest struggle again next season, and the history of the club under the Al Hasawi regime points to this being the case, it will be more than just the previous manager's fault. Forest were going backwards quickly, finishing on average four places lower each season before DF arrived. This season they look set to break that pattern, though...😟

The whole squad looks demoralised. It is going to take a big personality to try and turn the situation around. I think Warnock is a good firefighter but don't think he has it in him over the course of a whole season.

I totally disagree Will, Warnock for all his dislikability, would certainly knock this set of players into shape, he'd stand for no nonesense of ship out the slackers - that's exactly what we need a strong character to bring some discipline and order back into this team - and Warnock would be a great acquisition

Still believe it is a complete joke that we sacked Dougie and it is clear as daylight to seen ow the good work he was doing. This sacking I think is even more of a mistake as SOD as we knew at the time the good work he was doing and how we would not improve if he went.

If he stayed we would have been safe by now even though midtable would have been where we would have finished which was expected and his target at the start of the season. I think in the summer with the fit players back he would have been able to play attacking football again and we could have challenged.

Now we have total uncertainty where fans and owner are at near loggerheads with the next few months being crucial to the maintaining of the relationship. We potentially could finish 21st and as Rev said next season could be relegation if things do not drastically change.

Either way as always next season will be a defining season for Fawaz and for Forest.

I thought last season was bad

Super, you are somewhat dishillousned if you there Dougie Freedman was doing a 'good work' at times we were absolutely inept under his direction, some of the performances and reaults were unforgivable, and although he was working under certain restrictions, the squad he had available to him at times did not reflect some of the crapnthat he served up

He was doing just about an 'OK' job, but certainly nothing more than that - some folk seem to think that because his sacking was unnecessary they overlook some of the rubbish he was also responsible for

Example: 1 up front at home to Huddersfield and the like which resulted in us defending at home rather than taking the initiative - crap like that people seem to forget

RFB, really don't like that nickname for GLO, probably as it comes from a real idiot sheep on here

Although Dougie didn't do brilliant at either club the positions and difficulties in both mean that most would struggle to do a job.

Fawaz is only talking about CEO, structure etc because fans are turning on him. Words are cheap and even if he started to, we'd still be wary they wouldn't be allowed to do the role. Plus Lalou and Fawaz interfere and make life difficult.


As for FFP, I read something recently that made me think the new manager will be given spending power. In other words it sounds like those that should be safeguarding future/progress would be willing to blow the boundaries, if so desired by the manager.

I have no/little faith left in those that run us, sorry. I'd love to change my mind, still not seen any crumbs to give me crumbs of hope back.

It's only a joke that Dougie was sacked because (IMO):
* he may as well had the season
* Fawaz hadn't good record on recruiting managers
* for some strange reason Williams was put in charge

Maybe others behind the scenes turned it down. Either way it's a bit alarming that he as picked

comment by ForestBootBoy (U20875)
posted 8 hours, 24 minutes ago
I totally disagree Will, Warnock for all his dislikability, would certainly knock this set of players into shape, he'd stand for no nonesense of ship out the slackers - that's exactly what we need a strong character to bring some discipline and order back into this team - and Warnock would be a great acquisition
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I don't think he can do it long term anymore. He was gash at QPR recently.