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I think perhaps you forget that packed out stadiums with passionate fans is the main reason why the 'product' became so sought alert abroad and therefor drove the foreign advertising revenue and rights deals.
No fans, then no product and no money.
Yeah can't really sell the "passion" of the PL to TV companies without actual fans in the ground.
Ginger
The NBA has capacities around the 20,000 mark for all the top teams. They do well enough.
The OP makes a good point, revenue wise it's not a big issue, and that's what the people running football care about. However if you care about anything other than revenue it's a horrible idea
The NBA has capacities around the 20,000 mark for all the top teams. They do well enough.
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They play 41 games at home compared to 19.
It does from a corporate hospitality perspective. That's where the real money is.
I was listening to the radio and for some reason they were saying that if Zlatan had the choice of West ham or Chelsea he may choose West Ham cos they have a bigger stadium.
I don't see the point of a bigger stadium if you are rarely going to fill it.
What is going to be the capacity of the Olympic Stadium, by the way?
I think West Ham will fill it. Apparently the capacity had to be increased from the demand from West Ham fans
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't see the point of a bigger stadium if you are rarely going to fill it.
What is going to be the capacity of the Olympic Stadium, by the way?
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60k ish. But apparently West Ham have sold a large number of season tickets and have a good ticketing policy.
The thing is that Spurs fans use the stadium as a selling point as to why player x will join Spus over United or Chelsea.
I'm sorry but a player does not ask for the capacity of a stadium when making a choice of who to join
It's always good to be slightly over capacity if you can. Most grounds are filled from a ticket sold perspective, lots of ST holders pick and choose though.
It's about supply and demand. The TV deals are huge in England because there is a huge demand for football and fans are willing to pay over the odds for match tickets and season passes.
If you reduce a stadium's capacity then you're reducing the number of fans who can go and watch the teams they love. This will end up reducing the fan base as people are less involved. A lower fan base will then mean that merchandise sales decline, it also means that people are not willing to spend money on Sports packages at home.
Corporations like Sky will in turn refuse to pay billions as their subscriptions fall and less income generated from adverts etc. Then the club ends up losing 45000 in seats as well as a lower TV rights deal and lower merchandise revenue like shirts sales.
A larger stadium means more people can attend. Feel involved and create a stronger bond. The TV rights are huge BECAUSE of fans who spend. Lose that and you lose the TV money.
Robb
I will be surprised if they fill it against the lesser teams.
They will for the big games, no doubt. But 20,000 is a lot more to find. Although they are well supported in Southern Essex.
There is an argument that if Arsenal had known how much TV money would increase by would they have bothered to move to the Emirates?
meltonblue (U10617)
posted 12 minutes ago
It does from a corporate hospitality perspective. That's where the real money is.
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But you keep those with your 10,000 capacity, it's simply they are the only people you have in the ground.
Arsenals match day revenue is about £100m a season compared to ours at £41m (2014/15 figures).
While they have less control over wages £101m vs £192m it will enable us to be competitive without having to sell players like we have in the past to make ends meet.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 22 seconds ago
Arsenals match day revenue is about £100m a season compared to ours at £41m (2014/15 figures).
While they have less control over wages £101m vs £192m it will enable us to be competitive without having to sell players like we have in the past to make ends meet.
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I still don't know how you guys will pay for that stadium
comment by SouthLondonManc (U12028)
posted 1 minute ago
There is an argument that if Arsenal had known how much TV money would increase by would they have bothered to move to the Emirates?
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I think they would have. Highbury was an old, decrepid ground which needed a massive amount of updating.
My mate actually lives in it now that they've turned it into flats. It still has the roof of the stands there and the pitch is just one massive garden. Quite an interesting development.
comment by SouthLondonManc (U12028)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 22 seconds ago
Arsenals match day revenue is about £100m a season compared to ours at £41m (2014/15 figures).
While they have less control over wages £101m vs £192m it will enable us to be competitive without having to sell players like we have in the past to make ends meet.
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I still don't know how you guys will pay for that stadium
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Selling stadium naming rights
We have made profit on transfers for years
Loans
Income from NFL deal
Scrapping the WHL metal
"It's about supply and demand. The TV deals are huge in England because there is a huge demand for football and fans are willing to pay over the odds for match tickets and season passes.
If you reduce a stadium's capacity then you're reducing the number of fans who can go and watch the teams they love. This will end up reducing the fan base as people are less involved. A lower fan base will then mean that merchandise sales decline, it also means that people are not willing to spend money on Sports packages at home."
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Boss
Sorry but I can't agree. The vast majority of people who watch Premier League football on TV have never even looked at the possibility of buying a match day ticket.
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SouthLondonManc (U12028)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 22 seconds ago
Arsenals match day revenue is about £100m a season compared to ours at £41m (2014/15 figures).
While they have less control over wages £101m vs £192m it will enable us to be competitive without having to sell players like we have in the past to make ends meet.
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I still don't know how you guys will pay for that stadium
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Selling stadium naming rights
We have made profit on transfers for years
Loans
Income from NFL deal
Scrapping the WHL metal
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Selling stadium naming rights - £10m a season
We have made profit on transfers for years - Have you? Thought you wasted the Bale money?
Loans - Which will have to be paid back
Income from NFL deal - How many games a season?
Scrapping the WHL metal - ???
Put it this way. Arsenal HAD to make CL every season as well as sell a £30m player every season.
How many £30m players do Spurs have and will you guys make CL every year?
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posted on 18/4/16
I think perhaps you forget that packed out stadiums with passionate fans is the main reason why the 'product' became so sought alert abroad and therefor drove the foreign advertising revenue and rights deals.
No fans, then no product and no money.
posted on 18/4/16
Yeah can't really sell the "passion" of the PL to TV companies without actual fans in the ground.
posted on 18/4/16
Ginger
The NBA has capacities around the 20,000 mark for all the top teams. They do well enough.
posted on 18/4/16
The OP makes a good point, revenue wise it's not a big issue, and that's what the people running football care about. However if you care about anything other than revenue it's a horrible idea
posted on 18/4/16
The NBA has capacities around the 20,000 mark for all the top teams. They do well enough.
...............
They play 41 games at home compared to 19.
posted on 18/4/16
It does from a corporate hospitality perspective. That's where the real money is.
posted on 18/4/16
I was listening to the radio and for some reason they were saying that if Zlatan had the choice of West ham or Chelsea he may choose West Ham cos they have a bigger stadium.
posted on 18/4/16
are you Sane?
posted on 18/4/16
I don't see the point of a bigger stadium if you are rarely going to fill it.
What is going to be the capacity of the Olympic Stadium, by the way?
posted on 18/4/16
I think West Ham will fill it. Apparently the capacity had to be increased from the demand from West Ham fans
posted on 18/4/16
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't see the point of a bigger stadium if you are rarely going to fill it.
What is going to be the capacity of the Olympic Stadium, by the way?
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60k ish. But apparently West Ham have sold a large number of season tickets and have a good ticketing policy.
posted on 18/4/16
The thing is that Spurs fans use the stadium as a selling point as to why player x will join Spus over United or Chelsea.
I'm sorry but a player does not ask for the capacity of a stadium when making a choice of who to join
posted on 18/4/16
It's always good to be slightly over capacity if you can. Most grounds are filled from a ticket sold perspective, lots of ST holders pick and choose though.
posted on 18/4/16
It's about supply and demand. The TV deals are huge in England because there is a huge demand for football and fans are willing to pay over the odds for match tickets and season passes.
If you reduce a stadium's capacity then you're reducing the number of fans who can go and watch the teams they love. This will end up reducing the fan base as people are less involved. A lower fan base will then mean that merchandise sales decline, it also means that people are not willing to spend money on Sports packages at home.
Corporations like Sky will in turn refuse to pay billions as their subscriptions fall and less income generated from adverts etc. Then the club ends up losing 45000 in seats as well as a lower TV rights deal and lower merchandise revenue like shirts sales.
A larger stadium means more people can attend. Feel involved and create a stronger bond. The TV rights are huge BECAUSE of fans who spend. Lose that and you lose the TV money.
posted on 18/4/16
Robb
I will be surprised if they fill it against the lesser teams.
They will for the big games, no doubt. But 20,000 is a lot more to find. Although they are well supported in Southern Essex.
posted on 18/4/16
There is an argument that if Arsenal had known how much TV money would increase by would they have bothered to move to the Emirates?
posted on 18/4/16
meltonblue (U10617)
posted 12 minutes ago
It does from a corporate hospitality perspective. That's where the real money is.
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But you keep those with your 10,000 capacity, it's simply they are the only people you have in the ground.
posted on 18/4/16
Arsenals match day revenue is about £100m a season compared to ours at £41m (2014/15 figures).
While they have less control over wages £101m vs £192m it will enable us to be competitive without having to sell players like we have in the past to make ends meet.
posted on 18/4/16
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 22 seconds ago
Arsenals match day revenue is about £100m a season compared to ours at £41m (2014/15 figures).
While they have less control over wages £101m vs £192m it will enable us to be competitive without having to sell players like we have in the past to make ends meet.
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I still don't know how you guys will pay for that stadium
posted on 18/4/16
comment by SouthLondonManc (U12028)
posted 1 minute ago
There is an argument that if Arsenal had known how much TV money would increase by would they have bothered to move to the Emirates?
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I think they would have. Highbury was an old, decrepid ground which needed a massive amount of updating.
My mate actually lives in it now that they've turned it into flats. It still has the roof of the stands there and the pitch is just one massive garden. Quite an interesting development.
posted on 18/4/16
comment by SouthLondonManc (U12028)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 22 seconds ago
Arsenals match day revenue is about £100m a season compared to ours at £41m (2014/15 figures).
While they have less control over wages £101m vs £192m it will enable us to be competitive without having to sell players like we have in the past to make ends meet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I still don't know how you guys will pay for that stadium
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Selling stadium naming rights
We have made profit on transfers for years
Loans
Income from NFL deal
Scrapping the WHL metal
posted on 18/4/16
"It's about supply and demand. The TV deals are huge in England because there is a huge demand for football and fans are willing to pay over the odds for match tickets and season passes.
If you reduce a stadium's capacity then you're reducing the number of fans who can go and watch the teams they love. This will end up reducing the fan base as people are less involved. A lower fan base will then mean that merchandise sales decline, it also means that people are not willing to spend money on Sports packages at home."
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Boss
Sorry but I can't agree. The vast majority of people who watch Premier League football on TV have never even looked at the possibility of buying a match day ticket.
posted on 18/4/16
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SouthLondonManc (U12028)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 22 seconds ago
Arsenals match day revenue is about £100m a season compared to ours at £41m (2014/15 figures).
While they have less control over wages £101m vs £192m it will enable us to be competitive without having to sell players like we have in the past to make ends meet.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I still don't know how you guys will pay for that stadium
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Selling stadium naming rights
We have made profit on transfers for years
Loans
Income from NFL deal
Scrapping the WHL metal
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Selling stadium naming rights - £10m a season
We have made profit on transfers for years - Have you? Thought you wasted the Bale money?
Loans - Which will have to be paid back
Income from NFL deal - How many games a season?
Scrapping the WHL metal - ???
Put it this way. Arsenal HAD to make CL every season as well as sell a £30m player every season.
How many £30m players do Spurs have and will you guys make CL every year?
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