Email me. I'll give you the skinny next week.
Surely they can link it too your name and address.
Due to responsible gambing, the site has to be able to know who's betting.
Mainly because of USA regulation where there is no online betting
"Surely they can link it too your name and address."
Hiya mate, I've got a betting opportunity, just set up an account with xyz, I'll send you the stake money and if it wins we'll go halves. Suddenly there's 5 different names.
comment by Sir Kenneth Bates (U8238)
posted 18 minutes ago
contact@ja606.co.uk
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Yeah
Yes, via the device MAC address. They'll refuse any payout and possibly ban you.
comment by Pro - WSAIWB - 'Whoever Is The Manager' Out!! (U7053)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes, via the device MAC address. They'll refuse any payout and possibly ban you.
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The MAC address of a client (in the sense of the computer that issued the HTTP request) is overwritten by every router between the client and the server.
So definitely not using that.
Well they do know. I've worked in the gambling history, and when you're using online they know everything about you. Finding multiple accounts is easy.
comment by Pro - WSAIWB - 'Whoever Is The Manager' Out!! (U7053)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well they do know. I've worked in the gambling history, and when you're using online they know everything about you. Finding multiple accounts is easy.
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I've been banned from a few bookies, so i know a few of the tricks they use to detect accounts, but unless you are using a betting app, the source mac address by the very nature of networking is unobtainable.
Pro
Is there any threshold for amount of money withdrawn before it is checked how it was won. For example soon as it reaches a £1,000 it is looked into. Might not be your area, and suppose it will vary bookie by bookie.
comment by Sir Kenneth Bates (U8238)
posted 4 minutes ago
Pro
Is there any threshold for amount of money withdrawn before it is checked how it was won. For example soon as it reaches a £1,000 it is looked into. Might not be your area, and suppose it will vary bookie by bookie.
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Ladbrokes, used to ban me after £450
William Hill typically about £800
Paddy Power on average £2,500
Sometimes a trick is to appear like a fairly high roller, so start with a large deposit in the account. So if you deposit £5+k and win £1k it doesn't seem overly untoward. Deposit £100 and win £1k you are more likely to be banned. Also flushing money in the casino, so betting for example Red and Black, and taking the occasional hair cut, makes them a bit less focused on the account.
I might add that I once turned £10 into a few thousand, by winning lots of modest bets, I was astounded i got a way with that. But most bookies should be on their toes regarding, spotting outliers like that.
They have a whole department at William Hill head office in Leeds and use a colour code system that denotes the skill of each account. They're more likely to begin restricting your bets as you move up in the colour system which indicates your win to loss ratio is higher than the average person. If they don't want you at William Hill because you're winning too much, they'll 99% of the time restrict your bets on certain markets to a ridiculous amount.
comment by Pro - WSAIWB - 'Whoever Is The Manager' Out!! (U7053)
posted 4 minutes ago
They have a whole department at William Hill head office in Leeds and use a colour code system that denotes the skill of each account. They're more likely to begin restricting your bets as you move up in the colour system which indicates your win to loss ratio is higher than the average person. If they don't want you at William Hill because you're winning too much, they'll 99% of the time restrict your bets on certain markets to a ridiculous amount.
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I'd love to get the inside scoop in those departments.
Well I did a Coral account last couple of weeks. Initial deposit was £300 or £350, lost a few initial bets, ending up at a balance at around £287. Found a duplicate, turned it into over £2100. Left it a week and in the meantime placed a few small fiver/tenner bets. Withdrew £800 Wednesday got the money. Went to place a bet Friday and my bet max was £0, so £1,253 withdrawal, result......
I have looked intoyour query and can advise, that your account has been frozen due bet O/12370973/00000XX being resettled. This has in turn left your account in a negative balance of £-502.00 and will need to be paid back before the account can be reopend.
SKB
What was the resettled bet? They don't usually settle a bet until it's set in stone.
Well it was a betlike this-
Bet Type Bet Date Channel Result Date Status Unit Stake Total Stake Returns Bonus
Double
(To Win) 05/02/2016 17:57:04 coral web 2016-02-06 03:06:26 Win £40.00 £40.00 £1960.00 £0.00
1 Deportivo Municipal 1-0 - San Martin v Deportivo Municipal - Correct Score 7.00 Won
2 Club Deportivo Municipal 1-0 - Universidad San Matrin de Porres v Club Deportivo Municipal - Correct Score 7.00 Won
So obviously within their terms and conditions that they can either cancel the bet, or settle it as a single.
So you placed a double and both lines won. Surely they had no case then?
comment by Pro - WSAIWB - 'Whoever Is The Manager' Out!! (U7053)
posted 1 minute ago
So you placed a double and both lines won. Surely they had no case then?
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It's the same team for both parts of the double. Essentially turning the bookies vig into something like -96%. A dream bet for the punter.
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posted on 28/5/16
Email me. I'll give you the skinny next week.
posted on 28/5/16
contact@ja606.co.uk
?
posted on 29/5/16
Surely they can link it too your name and address.
Due to responsible gambing, the site has to be able to know who's betting.
Mainly because of USA regulation where there is no online betting
posted on 29/5/16
"Surely they can link it too your name and address."
Hiya mate, I've got a betting opportunity, just set up an account with xyz, I'll send you the stake money and if it wins we'll go halves. Suddenly there's 5 different names.
posted on 29/5/16
comment by Sir Kenneth Bates (U8238)
posted 18 minutes ago
contact@ja606.co.uk
?
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Yeah
posted on 29/5/16
Yes, via the device MAC address. They'll refuse any payout and possibly ban you.
posted on 29/5/16
comment by Pro - WSAIWB - 'Whoever Is The Manager' Out!! (U7053)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes, via the device MAC address. They'll refuse any payout and possibly ban you.
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The MAC address of a client (in the sense of the computer that issued the HTTP request) is overwritten by every router between the client and the server.
So definitely not using that.
posted on 29/5/16
Well they do know. I've worked in the gambling history, and when you're using online they know everything about you. Finding multiple accounts is easy.
posted on 29/5/16
comment by Pro - WSAIWB - 'Whoever Is The Manager' Out!! (U7053)
posted 2 minutes ago
Well they do know. I've worked in the gambling history, and when you're using online they know everything about you. Finding multiple accounts is easy.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've been banned from a few bookies, so i know a few of the tricks they use to detect accounts, but unless you are using a betting app, the source mac address by the very nature of networking is unobtainable.
posted on 29/5/16
Pro
Is there any threshold for amount of money withdrawn before it is checked how it was won. For example soon as it reaches a £1,000 it is looked into. Might not be your area, and suppose it will vary bookie by bookie.
posted on 29/5/16
comment by Sir Kenneth Bates (U8238)
posted 4 minutes ago
Pro
Is there any threshold for amount of money withdrawn before it is checked how it was won. For example soon as it reaches a £1,000 it is looked into. Might not be your area, and suppose it will vary bookie by bookie.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ladbrokes, used to ban me after £450
William Hill typically about £800
Paddy Power on average £2,500
Sometimes a trick is to appear like a fairly high roller, so start with a large deposit in the account. So if you deposit £5+k and win £1k it doesn't seem overly untoward. Deposit £100 and win £1k you are more likely to be banned. Also flushing money in the casino, so betting for example Red and Black, and taking the occasional hair cut, makes them a bit less focused on the account.
I might add that I once turned £10 into a few thousand, by winning lots of modest bets, I was astounded i got a way with that. But most bookies should be on their toes regarding, spotting outliers like that.
posted on 29/5/16
They have a whole department at William Hill head office in Leeds and use a colour code system that denotes the skill of each account. They're more likely to begin restricting your bets as you move up in the colour system which indicates your win to loss ratio is higher than the average person. If they don't want you at William Hill because you're winning too much, they'll 99% of the time restrict your bets on certain markets to a ridiculous amount.
posted on 29/5/16
comment by Pro - WSAIWB - 'Whoever Is The Manager' Out!! (U7053)
posted 4 minutes ago
They have a whole department at William Hill head office in Leeds and use a colour code system that denotes the skill of each account. They're more likely to begin restricting your bets as you move up in the colour system which indicates your win to loss ratio is higher than the average person. If they don't want you at William Hill because you're winning too much, they'll 99% of the time restrict your bets on certain markets to a ridiculous amount.
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I'd love to get the inside scoop in those departments.
posted on 29/5/16
Well I did a Coral account last couple of weeks. Initial deposit was £300 or £350, lost a few initial bets, ending up at a balance at around £287. Found a duplicate, turned it into over £2100. Left it a week and in the meantime placed a few small fiver/tenner bets. Withdrew £800 Wednesday got the money. Went to place a bet Friday and my bet max was £0, so £1,253 withdrawal, result......
I have looked intoyour query and can advise, that your account has been frozen due bet O/12370973/00000XX being resettled. This has in turn left your account in a negative balance of £-502.00 and will need to be paid back before the account can be reopend.
posted on 29/5/16
SKB
What was the resettled bet? They don't usually settle a bet until it's set in stone.
posted on 29/5/16
Well it was a betlike this-
Bet Type Bet Date Channel Result Date Status Unit Stake Total Stake Returns Bonus
Double
(To Win) 05/02/2016 17:57:04 coral web 2016-02-06 03:06:26 Win £40.00 £40.00 £1960.00 £0.00
1 Deportivo Municipal 1-0 - San Martin v Deportivo Municipal - Correct Score 7.00 Won
2 Club Deportivo Municipal 1-0 - Universidad San Matrin de Porres v Club Deportivo Municipal - Correct Score 7.00 Won
So obviously within their terms and conditions that they can either cancel the bet, or settle it as a single.
posted on 29/5/16
So you placed a double and both lines won. Surely they had no case then?
posted on 29/5/16
comment by Pro - WSAIWB - 'Whoever Is The Manager' Out!! (U7053)
posted 1 minute ago
So you placed a double and both lines won. Surely they had no case then?
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It's the same team for both parts of the double. Essentially turning the bookies vig into something like -96%. A dream bet for the punter.
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