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So Jack it's time to put up and shut them up,he don't like Spurs so what, Alli don't like Arsenal it's not unusual
for players to have these sort of views.
Wilshere is fully fit and has had enough game time.
He's the best midfielder we have he has the ability to glide past other players with minimal fuss and there is no other player in midfield who can do that. I recall as well before the injury he had last season he was man of the match in about two or three games in a row for England. For all those saying he ain't fit there are a lot more qualified people who have said he is otherwise he wouldn't be in the squad.
Sizzle that's it. Who knows what Wilshere will even bring to the table. He was good and showed promise at one point, but since then Mourinho has came back to Chelsea, won the league then got sacked the following. Leicester, yes Leicester win the EPL. Wayne Rooney has magically pulled a new head of hair out of a hat, even though he was like a plucked chicken prior. So like Sizzle says who knows. Wilshere could be on par with Lee cattermole for all we know by now
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
Glad I'm not as bitter as some of my fellow spurs fans, he's clearly England's most talented cm
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comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
Glad I'm not as bitter as some of my fellow spurs fans, he's clearly England's most talented cm
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Like a flock of Sheep.....Baaaa.
Suppose, but rather a sheep, than a sheep in wolves clothing as with Bennyville et al. Simple logic would tell you that there is no argument, as to whether Wilshere is sharp, or whether his 'current' ability is quantifiable!
Wilshere has won 2 Goal of the Season awards in the last 3 seasons.
Alli has missed 2 open goals in the last 3 months.
Erik Edman won goal of the season if I recall. Doesn't make him the feckin Messiah does it.
Don't know who Edman is but if he'd outplayed Guardiola's prime-midfield the way JW did in 2011 in the CL, and been MOTM 6 out of 8 times for Eng, then it would have been fair to praise him.
2011, 5 years ago. No one doubts his early promise. He simply hasn't delivered though since.
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 15 minutes ago
Don't know who Edman is but if he'd outplayed Guardiola's prime-midfield the way JW did in 2011 in the CL, and been MOTM 6 out of 8 times for Eng, then it would have been fair to praise him.
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I Thought you said Xavi Iniesta and busquets were/are awful
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Exactly Sizzle. It seems never.
He's not a great midfielder but he's better than the other options, that's the reality. He might be a bit mouthy at times but that doesn't reduce his ability.
Comparing England to Spain, Germany etc isn't relevant as they have an abundance of talent in their squads - England don't.
Yeah Ledley, still believe a national team should be picked on form, chemistry and consistency. Not your name, previous or prior form and club you play for.
Hence all of these views I hold currently would see Wilshere as being a no-goer for me if I was selecting.
Also think about the likes of any English players, dreaming of making the national set-up. What message do they recieve when they see players performing week in, week out, only to see a unknown quantity with regards to form and fitness I'm the shape of JW make the cut. Purely on past endeavours, his perceived quality and household name and club.
Again the reasons I would prefer a different approach or strategy (if there ever has even been one) taken from the England management team.
Picking players on "form" is what gets Rickie Lambert on the plane to Brazil.
Form is often indicitive of a team rather than individuals, so picking players because their club is having a storming season often leads to poor international teams.
There aren't many English players playing at a high level, pretty evident judging by the number of foreign players in the league and how few English players there are abroad...
Simply put; England don't have much choice over who to pick due to the lack of quality.
I don't understand why English players dont move abroad more often.
Maybe its the money idk, but didnt Tom Ince pick Hull over Inter Milan?!
We might actually end up with players who are technically and tactically.
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't understand why English players dont move abroad more often.
Maybe its the money idk, but didnt Tom Ince pick Hull over Inter Milan?!
We might actually end up with players who are technically and tactically.
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English people are generally not comfortable living in any country that does not have English as the first language, and are often quite closed to adapting to other cultures. (this is of course not true of all, but is the main reason)
imagine a pri1111ck like wilshere trying to learn Spanish
We saw our well a Brit learns a foreign language with Moyes
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posted on 5/6/16
So Jack it's time to put up and shut them up,he don't like Spurs so what, Alli don't like Arsenal it's not unusual
for players to have these sort of views.
posted on 5/6/16
Wilshere is fully fit and has had enough game time.
posted on 5/6/16
He's the best midfielder we have he has the ability to glide past other players with minimal fuss and there is no other player in midfield who can do that. I recall as well before the injury he had last season he was man of the match in about two or three games in a row for England. For all those saying he ain't fit there are a lot more qualified people who have said he is otherwise he wouldn't be in the squad.
posted on 5/6/16
Sizzle that's it. Who knows what Wilshere will even bring to the table. He was good and showed promise at one point, but since then Mourinho has came back to Chelsea, won the league then got sacked the following. Leicester, yes Leicester win the EPL. Wayne Rooney has magically pulled a new head of hair out of a hat, even though he was like a plucked chicken prior. So like Sizzle says who knows. Wilshere could be on par with Lee cattermole for all we know by now
posted on 5/6/16
comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
Glad I'm not as bitter as some of my fellow spurs fans, he's clearly England's most talented cm
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posted on 5/6/16
comment by Chronic (U3423)
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comment by Bennyville (U8058)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
Glad I'm not as bitter as some of my fellow spurs fans, he's clearly England's most talented cm
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posted on 5/6/16
Like a flock of Sheep.....Baaaa.
posted on 5/6/16
Suppose, but rather a sheep, than a sheep in wolves clothing as with Bennyville et al. Simple logic would tell you that there is no argument, as to whether Wilshere is sharp, or whether his 'current' ability is quantifiable!
posted on 5/6/16
Wilshere has won 2 Goal of the Season awards in the last 3 seasons.
Alli has missed 2 open goals in the last 3 months.
posted on 5/6/16
Erik Edman won goal of the season if I recall. Doesn't make him the feckin Messiah does it.
posted on 5/6/16
Don't know who Edman is but if he'd outplayed Guardiola's prime-midfield the way JW did in 2011 in the CL, and been MOTM 6 out of 8 times for Eng, then it would have been fair to praise him.
posted on 5/6/16
2011, 5 years ago. No one doubts his early promise. He simply hasn't delivered though since.
posted on 5/6/16
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 15 minutes ago
Don't know who Edman is but if he'd outplayed Guardiola's prime-midfield the way JW did in 2011 in the CL, and been MOTM 6 out of 8 times for Eng, then it would have been fair to praise him.
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I Thought you said Xavi Iniesta and busquets were/are awful
posted on 5/6/16
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posted on 5/6/16
Exactly Sizzle. It seems never.
posted on 5/6/16
He's not a great midfielder but he's better than the other options, that's the reality. He might be a bit mouthy at times but that doesn't reduce his ability.
Comparing England to Spain, Germany etc isn't relevant as they have an abundance of talent in their squads - England don't.
posted on 5/6/16
Yeah Ledley, still believe a national team should be picked on form, chemistry and consistency. Not your name, previous or prior form and club you play for.
Hence all of these views I hold currently would see Wilshere as being a no-goer for me if I was selecting.
Also think about the likes of any English players, dreaming of making the national set-up. What message do they recieve when they see players performing week in, week out, only to see a unknown quantity with regards to form and fitness I'm the shape of JW make the cut. Purely on past endeavours, his perceived quality and household name and club.
Again the reasons I would prefer a different approach or strategy (if there ever has even been one) taken from the England management team.
posted on 5/6/16
Picking players on "form" is what gets Rickie Lambert on the plane to Brazil.
Form is often indicitive of a team rather than individuals, so picking players because their club is having a storming season often leads to poor international teams.
posted on 5/6/16
There aren't many English players playing at a high level, pretty evident judging by the number of foreign players in the league and how few English players there are abroad...
Simply put; England don't have much choice over who to pick due to the lack of quality.
posted on 5/6/16
I don't understand why English players dont move abroad more often.
Maybe its the money idk, but didnt Tom Ince pick Hull over Inter Milan?!
We might actually end up with players who are technically and tactically.
posted on 5/6/16
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posted on 5/6/16
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 2 minutes ago
I don't understand why English players dont move abroad more often.
Maybe its the money idk, but didnt Tom Ince pick Hull over Inter Milan?!
We might actually end up with players who are technically and tactically.
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English people are generally not comfortable living in any country that does not have English as the first language, and are often quite closed to adapting to other cultures. (this is of course not true of all, but is the main reason)
imagine a pri1111ck like wilshere trying to learn Spanish
posted on 5/6/16
We saw our well a Brit learns a foreign language with Moyes
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