Cameron trumped him by standing down and not triggering article 50. He didn't have the balls to do it himself.
"Why did boris pull out?"
He didn't have a condom
I don't believe he ever wanted to leave the EU, was just using the vacant pedestal of the campaign to further his career. He didn't look particularly pleased when the news of the decision came through. I think he knows that no-one has a plan for what's to happen now this decision has been made.
I, for one, am relieved but none of the candidates look particularly appetising.
Gove needed someone with 'star-power' to appeal to the public on Leave vote. Boris is not nearly as popular in Commons, Gove saw his chance after Brexit vote and dumped Boris - Boris completely ambushed (both by this and Cameron decision) and steps away before bloodbath in leadership race - (probably hoping he can come again at some point).
comment by Tiddles LFC (U17634)
posted 5 minutes ago
"Why did boris pull out?"
He didn't have a condom
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I'll get yer coat.
I don’t think he had any other choice to be honest.
Gove, Dacre, and Murdoch royally stitched him up.
Over the last few days The S*n and Mail have been promoting his leadership candidacy, and how he will deliver on his referendum promises. As they were fraudulent there’s no way he could deliver.
After Gove’s wife, (who works for the Mail) leaked the email referring to Dacre and Murdoch giving a favourable press, there was no way he could run for PM.
comment by BATTYWACK (U2254)
posted 3 minutes ago
Cameron trumped him by standing down and not triggering article 50. He didn't have the balls to do it himself.
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Rightly so. I don't particularly like Cameron but he campaigned for the remain group so he shouldn't be the one to trigger art. 50.
Is it because he realised that the next PMs job is a poisoned chalice with so much time spent negotiating leaving the EU and sorting out new trade agreements with all and sundry?
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Yep, and anyone with common sense should stay clear from the job, at least for 5 years. The cynical in me can't help to think that this what Johnson doing.
The PM cannot trigger Art 50 without it firstly being put to Parliament. It is put to a vote, and then (assuming the Act passes) either the PM or Parliament ‘pull the trigger.’
If a PM attempted to do so before a statute was passed, the declaration would be legally unenforceable.
Well, because the 50% that voted to remain don't like him. And some of the 50% that voted leave probably don't either.
Still better than Gove. Ugh.
Still has more chance of being the next pm than Corbyn. Pretty sad state of affairs really what with all the embarrassing bleating of the remain voters whose harbinger of doom mantra has been fully exposed as tripe with ftse highest in 10 months and the pound not getting any worse than last Friday.
Boris could not get the support to win.
comment by bertrand small (U19359)
posted 7 minutes ago
Still has more chance of being the next pm than Corbyn. Pretty sad state of affairs really what with all the embarrassing bleating of the remain voters whose harbinger of doom mantra has been fully exposed as tripe with ftse highest in 10 months and the pound not getting any worse than last Friday.
Boris could not get the support to win.
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I personally think that the markets have settled down because everyone realises that we won't be leaving the EU for several years yet, if at all. And we'll have to accept EU conditions for access to the single market. Nothing much will actually change.
bertrand small
You are aware the Brexit has plunged the UK into political/economic turmoil?
Economists forecast financial volatility will persist, and will continue into 2017, with a 8% reduction in UK investment. GDP is also forecast to be 4% lower than referendum forecasts. The likelihood of a recession in 2017 is legitimate.
29/06/2016 President Obama:
"I think there are some genuine longer-term concerns about global growth if in fact Brexit goes through and that freezes the possibilities of investment in Great Britain or in Europe as a whole.
"At a time when global growth rates were weak already, this doesn't help,"
The economy isn’t in any shape or form out of the woods yet, as we haven’t actually entered them, (Art 50 still has to be triggered).
To suggest otherwise demonstrates a complete ignorance to the (ongoing) situation.
Boris didn't go for the gig because he knows, ultimately, that the right wing media determine who leads the country and he did not have the support of the right wing press.
Although pleasantly the Mail has mugged off Gove and his star columnist wife by backing Theresa May.
But at least we've "got our country back" and are "taking back control" and have our "independence" from Brussels.
Because Gove is a snake, basically.
comment by bertrand small (U19359)
posted 58 minutes ago
Still has more chance of being the next pm than Corbyn. Pretty sad state of affairs really what with all the embarrassing bleating of the remain voters whose harbinger of doom mantra has been fully exposed as tripe with ftse highest in 10 months and the pound not getting any worse than last Friday.
Boris could not get the support to win.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you have not understood the FTSE at all ever since the referendum was announced the FTSE fell
Number 1
The FTSE fell as traders believed Remain were going to win. At close on the 23rd I recall a Brexit odds being around 15/1. The markets therefore gambled on a Remain vote and traded accordingly.
Nadine Doris cried when Boris made his announcement. At least some good came of it.
embarrassing bleating of the remain voters whose harbinger of doom mantra has been fully exposed as tripe with ftse highest in 10 months and the pound not getting any worse than last Friday.
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How has it been fully exposed? The U.K. Government hasn't made a decision yet on whether to invoke article 50.
Nothing has changed so far.
When the commons vote on it, then you can see what reaction the markets will give.
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posted on 1/7/16
Cameron trumped him by standing down and not triggering article 50. He didn't have the balls to do it himself.
posted on 1/7/16
"Why did boris pull out?"
He didn't have a condom
posted on 1/7/16
I don't believe he ever wanted to leave the EU, was just using the vacant pedestal of the campaign to further his career. He didn't look particularly pleased when the news of the decision came through. I think he knows that no-one has a plan for what's to happen now this decision has been made.
I, for one, am relieved but none of the candidates look particularly appetising.
posted on 1/7/16
Gove needed someone with 'star-power' to appeal to the public on Leave vote. Boris is not nearly as popular in Commons, Gove saw his chance after Brexit vote and dumped Boris - Boris completely ambushed (both by this and Cameron decision) and steps away before bloodbath in leadership race - (probably hoping he can come again at some point).
posted on 1/7/16
comment by Tiddles LFC (U17634)
posted 5 minutes ago
"Why did boris pull out?"
He didn't have a condom
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'll get yer coat.
posted on 1/7/16
I don’t think he had any other choice to be honest.
Gove, Dacre, and Murdoch royally stitched him up.
Over the last few days The S*n and Mail have been promoting his leadership candidacy, and how he will deliver on his referendum promises. As they were fraudulent there’s no way he could deliver.
After Gove’s wife, (who works for the Mail) leaked the email referring to Dacre and Murdoch giving a favourable press, there was no way he could run for PM.
posted on 1/7/16
comment by BATTYWACK (U2254)
posted 3 minutes ago
Cameron trumped him by standing down and not triggering article 50. He didn't have the balls to do it himself.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rightly so. I don't particularly like Cameron but he campaigned for the remain group so he shouldn't be the one to trigger art. 50.
Is it because he realised that the next PMs job is a poisoned chalice with so much time spent negotiating leaving the EU and sorting out new trade agreements with all and sundry?
-------------------
Yep, and anyone with common sense should stay clear from the job, at least for 5 years. The cynical in me can't help to think that this what Johnson doing.
posted on 1/7/16
The PM cannot trigger Art 50 without it firstly being put to Parliament. It is put to a vote, and then (assuming the Act passes) either the PM or Parliament ‘pull the trigger.’
If a PM attempted to do so before a statute was passed, the declaration would be legally unenforceable.
posted on 1/7/16
Well, because the 50% that voted to remain don't like him. And some of the 50% that voted leave probably don't either.
Still better than Gove. Ugh.
posted on 1/7/16
Still has more chance of being the next pm than Corbyn. Pretty sad state of affairs really what with all the embarrassing bleating of the remain voters whose harbinger of doom mantra has been fully exposed as tripe with ftse highest in 10 months and the pound not getting any worse than last Friday.
Boris could not get the support to win.
posted on 1/7/16
comment by bertrand small (U19359)
posted 7 minutes ago
Still has more chance of being the next pm than Corbyn. Pretty sad state of affairs really what with all the embarrassing bleating of the remain voters whose harbinger of doom mantra has been fully exposed as tripe with ftse highest in 10 months and the pound not getting any worse than last Friday.
Boris could not get the support to win.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I personally think that the markets have settled down because everyone realises that we won't be leaving the EU for several years yet, if at all. And we'll have to accept EU conditions for access to the single market. Nothing much will actually change.
posted on 1/7/16
bertrand small
You are aware the Brexit has plunged the UK into political/economic turmoil?
Economists forecast financial volatility will persist, and will continue into 2017, with a 8% reduction in UK investment. GDP is also forecast to be 4% lower than referendum forecasts. The likelihood of a recession in 2017 is legitimate.
29/06/2016 President Obama:
"I think there are some genuine longer-term concerns about global growth if in fact Brexit goes through and that freezes the possibilities of investment in Great Britain or in Europe as a whole.
"At a time when global growth rates were weak already, this doesn't help,"
The economy isn’t in any shape or form out of the woods yet, as we haven’t actually entered them, (Art 50 still has to be triggered).
To suggest otherwise demonstrates a complete ignorance to the (ongoing) situation.
posted on 1/7/16
Boris didn't go for the gig because he knows, ultimately, that the right wing media determine who leads the country and he did not have the support of the right wing press.
Although pleasantly the Mail has mugged off Gove and his star columnist wife by backing Theresa May.
But at least we've "got our country back" and are "taking back control" and have our "independence" from Brussels.
posted on 1/7/16
Because Gove is a snake, basically.
posted on 1/7/16
comment by bertrand small (U19359)
posted 58 minutes ago
Still has more chance of being the next pm than Corbyn. Pretty sad state of affairs really what with all the embarrassing bleating of the remain voters whose harbinger of doom mantra has been fully exposed as tripe with ftse highest in 10 months and the pound not getting any worse than last Friday.
Boris could not get the support to win.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you have not understood the FTSE at all ever since the referendum was announced the FTSE fell
posted on 1/7/16
Number 1
The FTSE fell as traders believed Remain were going to win. At close on the 23rd I recall a Brexit odds being around 15/1. The markets therefore gambled on a Remain vote and traded accordingly.
posted on 1/7/16
Nadine Doris cried when Boris made his announcement. At least some good came of it.
posted on 1/7/16
embarrassing bleating of the remain voters whose harbinger of doom mantra has been fully exposed as tripe with ftse highest in 10 months and the pound not getting any worse than last Friday.
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How has it been fully exposed? The U.K. Government hasn't made a decision yet on whether to invoke article 50.
Nothing has changed so far.
When the commons vote on it, then you can see what reaction the markets will give.
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