World class player is bentaleb providing he shows it and stops his tantrums.
Has everything I never quite believe his hype coming through the youth system but I now see what others have seen he has everything. Vision positioning calmness aggression.
wouldnt mind seeing a 4-3-3 with dembs, bentaleb and dier running the midfield.
I agree, Bentaleb has all the talent to be a top top player. By all accounts he is a beast in training and is the fittest or one of the fittest players at the club.
I just hope he can get his head right because if he does we won't need to buy another CM.
Maybe I don't see what a lot of people see but what exactly has bentalab done to warrant potential "world class" status? All I see is a very tidy player who looks good on the ball. He was woeful last season when called upon and his only real positive influence was the period when Sherwood took over and he made his name from some decent performances. I'm all for giving people chances but is bentalab really that good? I certainly don't see it
think he became overconfident after signing his big new contract, a very talented player, just think he thinks he's better than he is. i just hope last season has humbled him and can go back to doing the basic things properly. if so i think he can be a huge asset for our league campaign while dembele will play the CL games
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 16 minutes ago
Maybe I don't see what a lot of people see but what exactly has bentalab done to warrant potential "world class" status? All I see is a very tidy player who looks good on the ball. He was woeful last season when called upon and his only real positive influence was the period when Sherwood took over and he made his name from some decent performances. I'm all for giving people chances but is bentalab really that good? I certainly don't see it
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you really do talk some tripe don.
bentaleb was good for pretty much the whole of poch first season, which was the season after he broke through with Sherwood.
I am willing to let him have last season as a learning curve, and see if he steps up.
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 16 minutes ago
Maybe I don't see what a lot of people see but what exactly has bentalab done to warrant potential "world class" status? All I see is a very tidy player who looks good on the ball. He was woeful last season when called upon and his only real positive influence was the period when Sherwood took over and he made his name from some decent performances. I'm all for giving people chances but is bentalab really that good? I certainly don't see it
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you really do talk some tripe don.
bentaleb was good for pretty much the whole of poch first season, which was the season after he broke through with Sherwood.
I am willing to let him have last season as a learning curve, and see if he steps up.
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Don actually said the same thing....
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comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 16 minutes ago
Maybe I don't see what a lot of people see but what exactly has bentalab done to warrant potential "world class" status? All I see is a very tidy player who looks good on the ball. He was woeful last season when called upon and his only real positive influence was the period when Sherwood took over and he made his name from some decent performances. I'm all for giving people chances but is bentalab really that good? I certainly don't see it
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you really do talk some tripe don.
bentaleb was good for pretty much the whole of poch first season, which was the season after he broke through with Sherwood.
I am willing to let him have last season as a learning curve, and see if he steps up.
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Don actually said the same thing....
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On this occasion I agree with Don, Bentaleb has a lot prove. If we trust Poch's judgement then the fact that he picked Mason and Carroll ahead of Bentaleb should speak volumes.
I just hope he proves me wrong and has a good pre-season.
As per usual chronic jumping on my comment without even reading it properly. Read properly chronic before posting your bulls** son
sorry what? you said that his only real positive influence was the period when Sherwood took over.
that's just not true. the whole season after that he was good, playing alongside the below par mason in CM all season.. and we came 5th... he did a good job.
it was only last season that he really fell away.
as usual don is wide of the mark with his comments.
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 3 minutes ago
sorry what? you said that his only real positive influence was the period when Sherwood took over.
that's just not true. the whole season after that he was good, playing alongside the below par mason in CM all season.. and we came 5th... he did a good job.
it was only last season that he really fell away.
as usual don is wide of the mark with his comments.
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Bentaleb can do a good job but I've never really seen him dominate a midfield or even out perform Mason.
I just can't see him breaking into our starting line up.
Dier, Wanyama and Dembele all ahead of him. Making him 4th choice and maybe 5th if you count Mason.
Doesn't seem like the kind of player that enjoys competition for places. If he does now is the time to show it.
Bentaleb was superb in Poch first season no doubt about it.
Just think he got to big for his boots and Poch has firmly out him in his place.
Now it's time for him to show what he can do and push on.
Apparently he's been superb in preseason
Yes that's correct. The period when Sherwood took over was when he made his name, hence why I mentioned it as a positive influence. He never dominated a game in pochettinos 1st season either so to say he is potentially " world class" is way over the top which is what I was replying to look like Modric. Until he proves otherwise, I will hold this opinion.
where did I say he is potentially world class? so actually despite you jumping straight on my comment, I was actually correct to pull you up on your incorrect statement.
Again read the f*** comment!!!!! I didn't say you said it did I? I said I was replying to look like modrics comments on him being world class potentially. No you was not correct at all. Just a typical chronic reply in thinking your correct all the time
Shouting down people's opinions on a daily basis dosn't make you correct chronic mate. Just makes you come across as an arrogant di** at times that never gives anyone a chance to have an opinion without ramming yours down everyone's throat.
no need to get leary don. I have merely challenged you on your point that bentaleb has only done well in the period when Sherwood was at the club, which is simply not true... as I have stated above, and was supported by Hengy.
as usual you cannot take anyone challenging your short sighted comments and resort to abuse when someone does.
No I just can't stand people resorting to jumping on an opinion at every opportunity. My opinion is I don't think bentalab has justified being labelled potential world class and I certainly don't think he's justified at this moment in time to be starting. I certainly haven't seen anything special from him in a while and until he proves otherwise then I won't change that. Anyway, I think I'll give this site a rest this season and go elsewhere. I feel you can't really have an opinion without being shouted down on here. Pointless even debating if all you ever get is stick when you make fair comments.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
No I just can't stand people resorting to jumping on an opinion at every opportunity. My opinion is I don't think bentalab has justified being labelled potential world class and I certainly don't think he's justified at this moment in time to be starting. I certainly haven't seen anything special from him in a while and until he proves otherwise then I won't change that. Anyway, I think I'll give this site a rest this season and go elsewhere. I feel you can't really have an opinion without being shouted down on here. Pointless even debating if all you ever get is stick when you make fair comments.
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you are a right sensitive little lamb aint you?
the whole point of a forum is that people challenge others ideas and debate it out.
I challenged your idea, but you are having a go at me for doing so
if you want to have your say uncontested then just start a blog that does not allow comments.
No chronic, I don't mind people challenging comments but when people come on calling people clueless etc for having an opinion. Basically bashing every single opinion you give just for the sake of arguing. Not to mention absolute bell ends on this site who I filtered ages ago but have this weird fascination in mentioning me every time I make a point. I can't be bothered with it.
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f me don is a sensitive soul, if he gets this wound up on a anonymous website when strangers challenge him, imagine what he must be like in real life. Ouch!
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comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 29 minutes ago
No chronic, I don't mind people challenging comments but when people come on calling people clueless etc for having an opinion. Basically bashing every single opinion you give just for the sake of arguing. Not to mention absolute bell ends on this site who I filtered ages ago but have this weird fascination in mentioning me every time I make a point. I can't be bothered with it.
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i don't argue with you for the sake of it. I argue if I dispute the point you are making.
you and I have agreed on lots of things over the years and have debated the same side against people in countless arguments.
lately however I happen to disagree with most things you say and am taking you to task on them.
several posters disagree with things I say and they all pull me up on it. and I usually defend my case.
you don't defend your case you just either get abusive or you say I am victimising you.
im not, I am just slightly irritated by your statement that bentaleb hasn't done much for spurs apart from under Sherwood as you are not giving the man due credit for his good performances in poch's first season.
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posted on 20/7/16
World class player is bentaleb providing he shows it and stops his tantrums.
Has everything I never quite believe his hype coming through the youth system but I now see what others have seen he has everything. Vision positioning calmness aggression.
wouldnt mind seeing a 4-3-3 with dembs, bentaleb and dier running the midfield.
posted on 20/7/16
I agree, Bentaleb has all the talent to be a top top player. By all accounts he is a beast in training and is the fittest or one of the fittest players at the club.
I just hope he can get his head right because if he does we won't need to buy another CM.
posted on 20/7/16
Maybe I don't see what a lot of people see but what exactly has bentalab done to warrant potential "world class" status? All I see is a very tidy player who looks good on the ball. He was woeful last season when called upon and his only real positive influence was the period when Sherwood took over and he made his name from some decent performances. I'm all for giving people chances but is bentalab really that good? I certainly don't see it
posted on 20/7/16
think he became overconfident after signing his big new contract, a very talented player, just think he thinks he's better than he is. i just hope last season has humbled him and can go back to doing the basic things properly. if so i think he can be a huge asset for our league campaign while dembele will play the CL games
posted on 20/7/16
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 16 minutes ago
Maybe I don't see what a lot of people see but what exactly has bentalab done to warrant potential "world class" status? All I see is a very tidy player who looks good on the ball. He was woeful last season when called upon and his only real positive influence was the period when Sherwood took over and he made his name from some decent performances. I'm all for giving people chances but is bentalab really that good? I certainly don't see it
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you really do talk some tripe don.
bentaleb was good for pretty much the whole of poch first season, which was the season after he broke through with Sherwood.
I am willing to let him have last season as a learning curve, and see if he steps up.
posted on 20/7/16
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 16 minutes ago
Maybe I don't see what a lot of people see but what exactly has bentalab done to warrant potential "world class" status? All I see is a very tidy player who looks good on the ball. He was woeful last season when called upon and his only real positive influence was the period when Sherwood took over and he made his name from some decent performances. I'm all for giving people chances but is bentalab really that good? I certainly don't see it
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you really do talk some tripe don.
bentaleb was good for pretty much the whole of poch first season, which was the season after he broke through with Sherwood.
I am willing to let him have last season as a learning curve, and see if he steps up.
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Don actually said the same thing....
posted on 20/7/16
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 16 minutes ago
Maybe I don't see what a lot of people see but what exactly has bentalab done to warrant potential "world class" status? All I see is a very tidy player who looks good on the ball. He was woeful last season when called upon and his only real positive influence was the period when Sherwood took over and he made his name from some decent performances. I'm all for giving people chances but is bentalab really that good? I certainly don't see it
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you really do talk some tripe don.
bentaleb was good for pretty much the whole of poch first season, which was the season after he broke through with Sherwood.
I am willing to let him have last season as a learning curve, and see if he steps up.
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Don actually said the same thing....
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On this occasion I agree with Don, Bentaleb has a lot prove. If we trust Poch's judgement then the fact that he picked Mason and Carroll ahead of Bentaleb should speak volumes.
I just hope he proves me wrong and has a good pre-season.
posted on 20/7/16
As per usual chronic jumping on my comment without even reading it properly. Read properly chronic before posting your bulls** son
posted on 20/7/16
sorry what? you said that his only real positive influence was the period when Sherwood took over.
that's just not true. the whole season after that he was good, playing alongside the below par mason in CM all season.. and we came 5th... he did a good job.
it was only last season that he really fell away.
as usual don is wide of the mark with his comments.
posted on 20/7/16
comment by Chronic (U3423)
posted 3 minutes ago
sorry what? you said that his only real positive influence was the period when Sherwood took over.
that's just not true. the whole season after that he was good, playing alongside the below par mason in CM all season.. and we came 5th... he did a good job.
it was only last season that he really fell away.
as usual don is wide of the mark with his comments.
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Bentaleb can do a good job but I've never really seen him dominate a midfield or even out perform Mason.
I just can't see him breaking into our starting line up.
Dier, Wanyama and Dembele all ahead of him. Making him 4th choice and maybe 5th if you count Mason.
Doesn't seem like the kind of player that enjoys competition for places. If he does now is the time to show it.
posted on 20/7/16
Bentaleb was superb in Poch first season no doubt about it.
Just think he got to big for his boots and Poch has firmly out him in his place.
Now it's time for him to show what he can do and push on.
Apparently he's been superb in preseason
posted on 20/7/16
Yes that's correct. The period when Sherwood took over was when he made his name, hence why I mentioned it as a positive influence. He never dominated a game in pochettinos 1st season either so to say he is potentially " world class" is way over the top which is what I was replying to look like Modric. Until he proves otherwise, I will hold this opinion.
posted on 20/7/16
where did I say he is potentially world class? so actually despite you jumping straight on my comment, I was actually correct to pull you up on your incorrect statement.
posted on 20/7/16
Again read the f*** comment!!!!! I didn't say you said it did I? I said I was replying to look like modrics comments on him being world class potentially. No you was not correct at all. Just a typical chronic reply in thinking your correct all the time
posted on 20/7/16
Shouting down people's opinions on a daily basis dosn't make you correct chronic mate. Just makes you come across as an arrogant di** at times that never gives anyone a chance to have an opinion without ramming yours down everyone's throat.
posted on 20/7/16
no need to get leary don. I have merely challenged you on your point that bentaleb has only done well in the period when Sherwood was at the club, which is simply not true... as I have stated above, and was supported by Hengy.
as usual you cannot take anyone challenging your short sighted comments and resort to abuse when someone does.
posted on 20/7/16
No I just can't stand people resorting to jumping on an opinion at every opportunity. My opinion is I don't think bentalab has justified being labelled potential world class and I certainly don't think he's justified at this moment in time to be starting. I certainly haven't seen anything special from him in a while and until he proves otherwise then I won't change that. Anyway, I think I'll give this site a rest this season and go elsewhere. I feel you can't really have an opinion without being shouted down on here. Pointless even debating if all you ever get is stick when you make fair comments.
posted on 20/7/16
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
No I just can't stand people resorting to jumping on an opinion at every opportunity. My opinion is I don't think bentalab has justified being labelled potential world class and I certainly don't think he's justified at this moment in time to be starting. I certainly haven't seen anything special from him in a while and until he proves otherwise then I won't change that. Anyway, I think I'll give this site a rest this season and go elsewhere. I feel you can't really have an opinion without being shouted down on here. Pointless even debating if all you ever get is stick when you make fair comments.
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you are a right sensitive little lamb aint you?
the whole point of a forum is that people challenge others ideas and debate it out.
I challenged your idea, but you are having a go at me for doing so
if you want to have your say uncontested then just start a blog that does not allow comments.
posted on 20/7/16
No chronic, I don't mind people challenging comments but when people come on calling people clueless etc for having an opinion. Basically bashing every single opinion you give just for the sake of arguing. Not to mention absolute bell ends on this site who I filtered ages ago but have this weird fascination in mentioning me every time I make a point. I can't be bothered with it.
posted on 20/7/16
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posted on 20/7/16
f me don is a sensitive soul, if he gets this wound up on a anonymous website when strangers challenge him, imagine what he must be like in real life. Ouch!
posted on 20/7/16
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posted on 20/7/16
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 29 minutes ago
No chronic, I don't mind people challenging comments but when people come on calling people clueless etc for having an opinion. Basically bashing every single opinion you give just for the sake of arguing. Not to mention absolute bell ends on this site who I filtered ages ago but have this weird fascination in mentioning me every time I make a point. I can't be bothered with it.
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i don't argue with you for the sake of it. I argue if I dispute the point you are making.
you and I have agreed on lots of things over the years and have debated the same side against people in countless arguments.
lately however I happen to disagree with most things you say and am taking you to task on them.
several posters disagree with things I say and they all pull me up on it. and I usually defend my case.
you don't defend your case you just either get abusive or you say I am victimising you.
im not, I am just slightly irritated by your statement that bentaleb hasn't done much for spurs apart from under Sherwood as you are not giving the man due credit for his good performances in poch's first season.
posted on 20/7/16
Let's stay on topic
posted on 20/7/16
Yes henge
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