Bayern hold the monopoly on the bundesliga but nobody campaigns against them!
standing up for a noble cause to try to ensure a halt in the commercialization of the Bundesliga
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This has nothing to do with morality or a noble cause. It's fans of other teams not wanting to see a team that isn't theirs succeed.
tbf on them their star man is an 19 yr old Scot
comment by Kolo's Long Schłông On Tour! KLS ⚽️ (U1695)
posted 21 seconds ago
Bayern hold the monopoly on the bundesliga but nobody campaigns against them!
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I was going to say the same thing. Currently Bayern can just buy the best players from all other teams...
When reading a few article last night i came across a great quote by a fan of a neighboring club Aue. he said:
"I've bought three season tickets (for RB leipzig). It's Bundesliga after all. But I'll be rooting for the opponents every time."
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
standing up for a noble cause to try to ensure a halt in the commercialization of the Bundesliga
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This has nothing to do with morality or a noble cause. It's fans of other teams not wanting to see a team that isn't theirs succeed.
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Yes, but the focus is solely on RBL due to their ownership $$$. We don't see Dortmund fans refuse to attend other teams games other than RBL do we?
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comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
standing up for a noble cause to try to ensure a halt in the commercialization of the Bundesliga
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This has nothing to do with morality or a noble cause. It's fans of other teams not wanting to see a team that isn't theirs succeed.
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Yes, but the focus is solely on RBL due to their ownership $$$. We don't see Dortmund fans refuse to attend other teams games other than RBL do we?
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It's pure jealousy. They're simply trying to make it look more noble by arguing that it goes against the traditions of German football. It's all a BS attempt to protect the status quo. God forbid a team other than Bayern or Dortmund dare to dream big in Germany.
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comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 5 minutes ago
standing up for a noble cause to try to ensure a halt in the commercialization of the Bundesliga
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This has nothing to do with morality or a noble cause. It's fans of other teams not wanting to see a team that isn't theirs succeed.
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No it isn't. It's about a football club that has gone against everything the Germans believe in and isn't "fan owned".
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Oh boo hoo.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 5 minutes ago
standing up for a noble cause to try to ensure a halt in the commercialization of the Bundesliga
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This has nothing to do with morality or a noble cause. It's fans of other teams not wanting to see a team that isn't theirs succeed.
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No it isn't. It's about a football club that has gone against everything the Germans believe in and isn't "fan owned".
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Oh boo hoo.
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Not a great counter argument that to be fair...
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Man City and the leagues in the USA are a joke.
franchise bullshotite is an american thing i think.
and of the success of the Bayern's, Utd's, Liverpoo'sl, Rangers, Celtic, Ajax and Real's of this world they never went down that road to their credit.
their are proper clubs out there and then theirs those that think they belong to that group.
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 5 minutes ago
standing up for a noble cause to try to ensure a halt in the commercialization of the Bundesliga
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This has nothing to do with morality or a noble cause. It's fans of other teams not wanting to see a team that isn't theirs succeed.
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No it isn't. It's about a football club that has gone against everything the Germans believe in and isn't "fan owned".
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There are plenty of teams not fan owned, RBL aren't the only ones.
Wolfburg, Leverkusen, Heffenheim for example.
One rule for them. One for others.
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 6 minutes ago
It's nothing like us of Man City. They were bought 7 years ago by Red Bull who effectively turned it into their own brand football club
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Isn't that exactly what City have done though?
Not a great counter argument that to be fair...
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I'm not counter-arguing. There's nothing to argue when we have different points of view on it.
Just because the German people don't want to accept what the wider football world has become doesn't mean I should side with them.
It's been years since an East German club has been in the Bundesliga, as a hangover from the communist era.
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You're not in a position to judge what they believe important.
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I can judge it if I wish. I've seen clubs in this country achieve success through similar means and not thrown my toys out of the pram about it.
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You some how think this is a bad thing.
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I don't think it's a bad thing. Then again I don't agree that attacking RB Leipzig fans and throwing severed bull heads onto the pitch has a place in football.
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comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
It's all a BS attempt to protect the status quo. God forbid a team other than Bayern or Dortmund dare to dream big in Germany.
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check out attendances and the finances in Germany. See what Wolfsburg and Werder have paid for players in the past. Look at what Leverkausen are able to do. All because of the way German football is run. It isn't like Spain where until recently Real and Barca could secure their own TV deal. Everything is done right down the middle in Germany, with the added bonus of all the clubs having at least a 51% fan ownership meaning you will never see top flight clubs in the Portsmouth, Leeds, Coventry predicament. You some how think this is a bad thing.
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But Leverkusen and Wolfburg aren't owned by the fans.
That 51% rule only applies to teams founded in the 21st century. Older clubs get different treatment.
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Hope they start to dominate.
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
It's all a BS attempt to protect the status quo. God forbid a team other than Bayern or Dortmund dare to dream big in Germany.
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check out attendances and the finances in Germany. See what Wolfsburg and Werder have paid for players in the past. Look at what Leverkausen are able to do. All because of the way German football is run. It isn't like Spain where until recently Real and Barca could secure their own TV deal. Everything is done right down the middle in Germany, with the added bonus of all the clubs having at least a 51% fan ownership meaning you will never see top flight clubs in the Portsmouth, Leeds, Coventry predicament. You some how think this is a bad thing.
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But Leverkusen and Wolfburg aren't owned by the fans.
That 51% rule only applies to teams founded in the 21st century. Older clubs get different treatment.
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My point regarding the 51% wasn't necessarily to do with these clubs, it was an example of clubs that show that the German league isn't a "status quo" and that other clubs are doing well, spending big and have consistently large crowds.
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gotcha
You have never seen a football club being bought by a company, having its name changed to include that company
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There was no complaint at the time from the fans of either SSV Markranstädt or FC Sachsen Leipzig. Both we in deep financial trouble and this partnership merger suited all parties.
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posted on 27/9/16
Bayern hold the monopoly on the bundesliga but nobody campaigns against them!
posted on 27/9/16
standing up for a noble cause to try to ensure a halt in the commercialization of the Bundesliga
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This has nothing to do with morality or a noble cause. It's fans of other teams not wanting to see a team that isn't theirs succeed.
posted on 27/9/16
tbf on them their star man is an 19 yr old Scot
posted on 27/9/16
comment by Kolo's Long Schłông On Tour! KLS ⚽️ (U1695)
posted 21 seconds ago
Bayern hold the monopoly on the bundesliga but nobody campaigns against them!
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I was going to say the same thing. Currently Bayern can just buy the best players from all other teams...
posted on 27/9/16
When reading a few article last night i came across a great quote by a fan of a neighboring club Aue. he said:
"I've bought three season tickets (for RB leipzig). It's Bundesliga after all. But I'll be rooting for the opponents every time."
posted on 27/9/16
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
standing up for a noble cause to try to ensure a halt in the commercialization of the Bundesliga
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This has nothing to do with morality or a noble cause. It's fans of other teams not wanting to see a team that isn't theirs succeed.
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Yes, but the focus is solely on RBL due to their ownership $$$. We don't see Dortmund fans refuse to attend other teams games other than RBL do we?
posted on 27/9/16
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posted on 27/9/16
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posted on 27/9/16
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
standing up for a noble cause to try to ensure a halt in the commercialization of the Bundesliga
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This has nothing to do with morality or a noble cause. It's fans of other teams not wanting to see a team that isn't theirs succeed.
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Yes, but the focus is solely on RBL due to their ownership $$$. We don't see Dortmund fans refuse to attend other teams games other than RBL do we?
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It's pure jealousy. They're simply trying to make it look more noble by arguing that it goes against the traditions of German football. It's all a BS attempt to protect the status quo. God forbid a team other than Bayern or Dortmund dare to dream big in Germany.
posted on 27/9/16
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posted on 27/9/16
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 5 minutes ago
standing up for a noble cause to try to ensure a halt in the commercialization of the Bundesliga
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This has nothing to do with morality or a noble cause. It's fans of other teams not wanting to see a team that isn't theirs succeed.
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No it isn't. It's about a football club that has gone against everything the Germans believe in and isn't "fan owned".
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Oh boo hoo.
posted on 27/9/16
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 5 minutes ago
standing up for a noble cause to try to ensure a halt in the commercialization of the Bundesliga
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This has nothing to do with morality or a noble cause. It's fans of other teams not wanting to see a team that isn't theirs succeed.
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No it isn't. It's about a football club that has gone against everything the Germans believe in and isn't "fan owned".
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Oh boo hoo.
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Not a great counter argument that to be fair...
posted on 27/9/16
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posted on 27/9/16
Man City and the leagues in the USA are a joke.
franchise bullshotite is an american thing i think.
and of the success of the Bayern's, Utd's, Liverpoo'sl, Rangers, Celtic, Ajax and Real's of this world they never went down that road to their credit.
their are proper clubs out there and then theirs those that think they belong to that group.
posted on 27/9/16
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 5 minutes ago
standing up for a noble cause to try to ensure a halt in the commercialization of the Bundesliga
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This has nothing to do with morality or a noble cause. It's fans of other teams not wanting to see a team that isn't theirs succeed.
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No it isn't. It's about a football club that has gone against everything the Germans believe in and isn't "fan owned".
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There are plenty of teams not fan owned, RBL aren't the only ones.
Wolfburg, Leverkusen, Heffenheim for example.
One rule for them. One for others.
posted on 27/9/16
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 6 minutes ago
It's nothing like us of Man City. They were bought 7 years ago by Red Bull who effectively turned it into their own brand football club
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Isn't that exactly what City have done though?
posted on 27/9/16
Not a great counter argument that to be fair...
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I'm not counter-arguing. There's nothing to argue when we have different points of view on it.
Just because the German people don't want to accept what the wider football world has become doesn't mean I should side with them.
It's been years since an East German club has been in the Bundesliga, as a hangover from the communist era.
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You're not in a position to judge what they believe important.
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I can judge it if I wish. I've seen clubs in this country achieve success through similar means and not thrown my toys out of the pram about it.
posted on 27/9/16
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posted on 27/9/16
You some how think this is a bad thing.
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I don't think it's a bad thing. Then again I don't agree that attacking RB Leipzig fans and throwing severed bull heads onto the pitch has a place in football.
posted on 27/9/16
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posted on 27/9/16
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
It's all a BS attempt to protect the status quo. God forbid a team other than Bayern or Dortmund dare to dream big in Germany.
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check out attendances and the finances in Germany. See what Wolfsburg and Werder have paid for players in the past. Look at what Leverkausen are able to do. All because of the way German football is run. It isn't like Spain where until recently Real and Barca could secure their own TV deal. Everything is done right down the middle in Germany, with the added bonus of all the clubs having at least a 51% fan ownership meaning you will never see top flight clubs in the Portsmouth, Leeds, Coventry predicament. You some how think this is a bad thing.
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But Leverkusen and Wolfburg aren't owned by the fans.
That 51% rule only applies to teams founded in the 21st century. Older clubs get different treatment.
posted on 27/9/16
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posted on 27/9/16
Hope they start to dominate.
posted on 27/9/16
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 1 minute ago
It's all a BS attempt to protect the status quo. God forbid a team other than Bayern or Dortmund dare to dream big in Germany.
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check out attendances and the finances in Germany. See what Wolfsburg and Werder have paid for players in the past. Look at what Leverkausen are able to do. All because of the way German football is run. It isn't like Spain where until recently Real and Barca could secure their own TV deal. Everything is done right down the middle in Germany, with the added bonus of all the clubs having at least a 51% fan ownership meaning you will never see top flight clubs in the Portsmouth, Leeds, Coventry predicament. You some how think this is a bad thing.
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But Leverkusen and Wolfburg aren't owned by the fans.
That 51% rule only applies to teams founded in the 21st century. Older clubs get different treatment.
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My point regarding the 51% wasn't necessarily to do with these clubs, it was an example of clubs that show that the German league isn't a "status quo" and that other clubs are doing well, spending big and have consistently large crowds.
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gotcha
posted on 27/9/16
You have never seen a football club being bought by a company, having its name changed to include that company
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There was no complaint at the time from the fans of either SSV Markranstädt or FC Sachsen Leipzig. Both we in deep financial trouble and this partnership merger suited all parties.
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