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Regretfully it’s this sort of language (us and them) that causes further division. There was only a 4% swing in the EU vote, with members of the same family voting differently.
As seen throughout parliament there are profound disagreements amongst those who voted to Leave. Burying your head in the sand and suggesting everything will be rosy is somewhat naïve, given those who have been entrusted in moving the country forward are so deeply divided.
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Chris Grayling on Sunday said that leaving the EU will allow us to regulate our own station platform heights. This is already regulated by the UK Rail Standards & Safety Board. Grayling is meant to be the transport secretary.
Andrea Leadsom said in her speech to Tory Party Conference that Britain is exporting coffee to Brazil. Coffee doesn't grow outside the tropics (Britain is not yet tropical). Leadsom is environment, food and rural affairs secretary.
Liam Fox wants British business to invest more abroad, thinks we'll have freer trade with the EU after we've left. Fox is International Trade secretary.
Not getting the basics right, not competent. These people are leading the Brexit charge. Unreal.
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The entitlement of the Baby Boomer generation is utterly disgusting
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While you are entitled to your opinion, it’s far from the reality the UK are faced with.
This has nothing to do with the vote. But how we want to move forward.
Not sure if you are aware of the actual mechanics of this process but it’s the biggest social, financial, and commercial task ever faced by any government.
As a few have noted, the people responsible for shaping the countries future have little or no understanding of what has been entrusted to them.
By way of example the UK hasn’t brokered a trade deal since the 1970’s. There’s also no one (nor organisation) qualified in the UK to broker a trade deal.
Ironically the government have therefore outsourced this to the EU. Just let that sink in. The EU will be negotiating the UK’s trade agreements with themselves.
Canada had around 800 trade negotiators working on the EU-Canada trade agreement (CETA). It is estimated the UK will need considerably more. Seven years down the line and still has to be ratified.
The US/EU TTIP trade negotiations opened in 2006. Due to complete in 2014. It now looks like the deal will collapse.
To generate economic growth the UK will need to broker trade deals as soon as possible. Given the time frames required to complete treaties, I hope you can appreciate the severity of the situation facing the UK.
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Heavily Tax the baby boomers pensions, they got far too good a deal and will take out way more than they put in.
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Sizzle and the Remoaners simply can't accept that every single Remain Campaign prediction has turned out to be total Michael ballacks.
- there will be a recession.
No.
- companies will leave the UK.
No.
- the FTSE 100 and 250 will collapse.
No.
- no one will want trade deals with us.
No.
manufacturing will collapse.
No.
Every doom mothering Project Fear claim has failed to materialise
They are hoping for the worst so they don't look even more foolish
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And Sterling was already overvalued and it's fall in value is the biggest single thing that's happened in years to help our manufacturing exporters be more competitive.
The old high value sterling policy was already pretty dated. It stems from a time when we needed a very high valued currency to afford overseas military bases and other long term leftovers of Empire.
Ok so your holidays are expensive, you moaning nimbys, but there has been an increase in tourism to the UK
Britain is Booming, don't let Sizzle Ruin It
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jar jar winks
Do you know how many financial services have already left Canary Wharf?
While many (from both sides) over egged the consequences, the full effects of Brexit will not be known until at least 2020. Not at least because this is when the latest (2014-2020) six year EU grants will cease.
This also coincides with Brexit, (scheduled spring 2019) and the UK’s application process as a WTO member.
The comments you have made are quite frankly absurd, and represent a complete lack of understanding.
The FTSE 100 is about as British as a Lamb Bhuna. Its dominated by international companies and therefore give no indication on how the UK economy is faring. Makes me laugh every time a Brexiter brings it up.
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jar jar winks
Do you know how many financial services have already left Canary Wharf?
While many (from both sides) over egged the consequences, the full effects of Brexit will not be known until at least 2020. Not at least because this is when the latest (2014-2020) six year EU grants will cease.
This also coincides with Brexit, (scheduled spring 2019) and the UK’s application process as a WTO member.
The comments you have made are quite frankly absurd, and represent a complete lack of understanding.
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Almost none have left, which is why you didn't mention any. Certainly none of stature.
I'm reminded of the time bankers threatened to go to Singapore after people criticised them after 2008. Unfortunately, none of them left either!
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The FTSE 100 is about as British as a Lamb Bhuna. Its dominated by international companies and therefore give no indication on how the UK economy is faring. Makes me laugh every time a Brexiter brings it up.
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Then let's take yesterday's IMF announcement that the UK is soon to be the fastest growing developed economy to the world, or manufacturing figures being at their highest for decades .
Guys, you do not need a an EU parliament and commissioners for countries to trade. Trust me. It's incredible the EU has convinced so many people of this
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foREVer irREVerend
Regretfully it’s this sort of language (us and them) that causes further division. There was only a 4% swing in the EU vote, with members of the same family voting differently.
As seen throughout parliament there are profound disagreements amongst those who voted to Leave. Burying your head in the sand and suggesting everything will be rosy is somewhat naïve, given those who have been entrusted in moving the country forward are so deeply divided.
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Chris Grayling on Sunday said that leaving the EU will allow us to regulate our own station platform heights. This is already regulated by the UK Rail Standards & Safety Board. Grayling is meant to be the transport secretary.
Andrea Leadsom said in her speech to Tory Party Conference that Britain is exporting coffee to Brazil. Coffee doesn't grow outside the tropics (Britain is not yet tropical). Leadsom is environment, food and rural affairs secretary.
Liam Fox wants British business to invest more abroad, thinks we'll have freer trade with the EU after we've left. Fox is International Trade secretary.
Not getting the basics right, not competent. These people are leading the Brexit charge. Unreal.
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The entitlement of the Baby Boomer generation is utterly disgusting
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foREVer irREVerend
While you are entitled to your opinion, it’s far from the reality the UK are faced with.
This has nothing to do with the vote. But how we want to move forward.
Not sure if you are aware of the actual mechanics of this process but it’s the biggest social, financial, and commercial task ever faced by any government.
As a few have noted, the people responsible for shaping the countries future have little or no understanding of what has been entrusted to them.
By way of example the UK hasn’t brokered a trade deal since the 1970’s. There’s also no one (nor organisation) qualified in the UK to broker a trade deal.
Ironically the government have therefore outsourced this to the EU. Just let that sink in. The EU will be negotiating the UK’s trade agreements with themselves.
Canada had around 800 trade negotiators working on the EU-Canada trade agreement (CETA). It is estimated the UK will need considerably more. Seven years down the line and still has to be ratified.
The US/EU TTIP trade negotiations opened in 2006. Due to complete in 2014. It now looks like the deal will collapse.
To generate economic growth the UK will need to broker trade deals as soon as possible. Given the time frames required to complete treaties, I hope you can appreciate the severity of the situation facing the UK.
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Heavily Tax the baby boomers pensions, they got far too good a deal and will take out way more than they put in.
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Sizzle and the Remoaners simply can't accept that every single Remain Campaign prediction has turned out to be total Michael ballacks.
- there will be a recession.
No.
- companies will leave the UK.
No.
- the FTSE 100 and 250 will collapse.
No.
- no one will want trade deals with us.
No.
manufacturing will collapse.
No.
Every doom mothering Project Fear claim has failed to materialise
They are hoping for the worst so they don't look even more foolish
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And Sterling was already overvalued and it's fall in value is the biggest single thing that's happened in years to help our manufacturing exporters be more competitive.
The old high value sterling policy was already pretty dated. It stems from a time when we needed a very high valued currency to afford overseas military bases and other long term leftovers of Empire.
Ok so your holidays are expensive, you moaning nimbys, but there has been an increase in tourism to the UK
Britain is Booming, don't let Sizzle Ruin It
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jar jar winks
Do you know how many financial services have already left Canary Wharf?
While many (from both sides) over egged the consequences, the full effects of Brexit will not be known until at least 2020. Not at least because this is when the latest (2014-2020) six year EU grants will cease.
This also coincides with Brexit, (scheduled spring 2019) and the UK’s application process as a WTO member.
The comments you have made are quite frankly absurd, and represent a complete lack of understanding.
posted on 5/10/16
The FTSE 100 is about as British as a Lamb Bhuna. Its dominated by international companies and therefore give no indication on how the UK economy is faring. Makes me laugh every time a Brexiter brings it up.
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posted 13 minutes ago
jar jar winks
Do you know how many financial services have already left Canary Wharf?
While many (from both sides) over egged the consequences, the full effects of Brexit will not be known until at least 2020. Not at least because this is when the latest (2014-2020) six year EU grants will cease.
This also coincides with Brexit, (scheduled spring 2019) and the UK’s application process as a WTO member.
The comments you have made are quite frankly absurd, and represent a complete lack of understanding.
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Almost none have left, which is why you didn't mention any. Certainly none of stature.
I'm reminded of the time bankers threatened to go to Singapore after people criticised them after 2008. Unfortunately, none of them left either!
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comment by wolfieintheSeasideTown (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
The FTSE 100 is about as British as a Lamb Bhuna. Its dominated by international companies and therefore give no indication on how the UK economy is faring. Makes me laugh every time a Brexiter brings it up.
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Then let's take yesterday's IMF announcement that the UK is soon to be the fastest growing developed economy to the world, or manufacturing figures being at their highest for decades .
Guys, you do not need a an EU parliament and commissioners for countries to trade. Trust me. It's incredible the EU has convinced so many people of this
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