Cal Neva
Not sure I recall the future of Canary Wharf ever been at risk? It’s the largest financial sector in the world.
And who are these ‘most people’?
Nearly each and every lender that requires passporting all said prior to the referendum that they would have to make contingency plans in the event of an exit. Lloyds insurance were one of the few who said publically (most wouldn’t as would probably affect share price) they would have to move operations back inside the SM.
While lenders could apply for authorisation for each EU country (27) the costs involved would far outweigh simply moving operations back inside the EU.
As I noted the contribution financial services makes to the UK economy is huge. In taxes alone.
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When did this country start to despise it's youth so much?
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Probably around the same time the youth of this country started to hate their country... You can't expect the older generation to pander to the whims of an ungrateful apologist generation.
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Do the younger generation hate their country or do they have genuine grievances?
I'd say considering they don't benefit from cheap housing, free higher education and the opportunity to save for a very healthy pension, to live off in their latter years, the younger generation have every right to complain.
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If they work hard they can acquire those things regardless. Don't make excuses for idleness. My younger siblings are in their mid/late twenties and had no problems getting on the property ladder.
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It's got nothing to do with idleness. That's a convenient excuse used by those who didn't have to pay a fortune for higher education and didn't have to wait until they were in their mid to late thirties to buy property.
It's about the younger generation facing the prospect of having to spend their entire lives working to pay the debt accrued for an education and home. The older generation had free higher education and were able to have the house paid off by the time they retired, if not before.
I'd be a bit narked if I were told I'm workshy and lazy by a generation that had it much easier. Especially considering I will have to work much harder than them.
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comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 13 minutes ago
When did this country start to despise it's youth so much?
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Probably around the same time the youth of this country started to hate their country... You can't expect the older generation to pander to the whims of an ungrateful apologist generation.
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Do the younger generation hate their country or do they have genuine grievances?
I'd say considering they don't benefit from cheap housing, free higher education and the opportunity to save for a very healthy pension, to live off in their latter years, the younger generation have every right to complain.
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If they work hard they can acquire those things regardless. Don't make excuses for idleness. My younger siblings are in their mid/late twenties and had no problems getting on the property ladder.
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What do they do?
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The older of my 2 brothers is a successful builder (he dropped out of school at 14 to pursue that because the curriculum didn't cater for it).
The other brother works in advertising at a creative agency.
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That's a convenient excuse used by those who didn't have to pay a fortune for higher education and didn't have to wait until they were in their mid to late thirties to buy property.
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Sorry, but the higher education fee excuse just doesn't wash. The loan repayments are negligible and have no bearing whatsoever on acquiring a mortgage. The problem in this country is that for two decades our government has been shoehorning people into higher education. The result being that we have a lack of skilled labour, and a surplus of unskilled people who can't find work after University because their degree doesn't give them an obvious career path, and their qualifications and university actually put them into the market against people they shouldn't be competing with for those jobs. That's why so many university grads end up in call centres 2 or 3 years after graduating.
We should be encouraging our youth to explore options that will actually stand them in good stead to get a job. Not throwing up polytechnics on every street corner and offering out university places and loans to people getting D's and E's at college, just so they too can enjoy a government subsidised three year boozing session.
New Labour has a lot to answer for.
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posted 19 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 13 minutes ago
When did this country start to despise it's youth so much?
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Probably around the same time the youth of this country started to hate their country... You can't expect the older generation to pander to the whims of an ungrateful apologist generation.
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Do the younger generation hate their country or do they have genuine grievances?
I'd say considering they don't benefit from cheap housing, free higher education and the opportunity to save for a very healthy pension, to live off in their latter years, the younger generation have every right to complain.
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If they work hard they can acquire those things regardless. Don't make excuses for idleness. My younger siblings are in their mid/late twenties and had no problems getting on the property ladder.
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What do they do?
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The older of my 2 brothers is a successful builder (he dropped out of school at 14 to pursue that because the curriculum didn't cater for it).
The other brother works in advertising at a creative agency.
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How fortunate for them then. Bit fecking cheeky to come on here moaning how all the younger generation do is complain online, then to do nothing but moan about how workshy they are. I actually find it very difficult to get on the ladder, despite putting what I'd consider to be a decent graft each week in, and have good mates who are in similar positions. It's not a conspiracy that the housing market is difficult for first time buyers.
Cal Neva
Why do you think there won’t be a “fall out?”
Do you honestly think global banks based in London, are going to lose out on potential/and existing customer base of around 500m people, (accepting a financial loss)?
France, Germany, Luxemburg etc etc have been trying to acquire these businesses for years, (long before the ref). Brexit has pretty much given them the best opportunity they will ever have of acquiring them.
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posted 13 minutes ago
Do the younger generation hate their country or do they have genuine grievances?
I'd say considering they don't benefit from cheap housing, free higher education and the opportunity to save for a very healthy pension, to live off in their latter years, the younger generation have every right to complain.
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Why?
Not all baby boomers live in the lap of luxury. I was born in the baby-boomer era yet have none of these so-called benefits that all baby-boomers are supposed to enjoy.
I didn't benefit from cheap housing when I was younger. I couldn't afford to get onto the property ladder until my mid 30s (and then only because both myself and my wife were working so we could use our joint income to calculate the mortgage).
I work bloody hard and have done most of my life (since I was 15) yet I can't afford to save and I certainly won't have a healthy pension when I get to retire in 2029 (if I live that long).
My wife is older than me, suffers ill health and cannot work but is not eligible for state benefits because she can dress herself and walk 100 yards. That apparently is enough to deem her fit for work.
So please tell me where I have benefited?
How fortunate for them then.
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Uncanny how frequently hard work and good fortune seem to coincide...
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posted 1 second ago
How fortunate for them then.
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Uncanny how frequently hard work and good fortune seem to coincide...
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As ignoring the rest of a post when you don't have an answer does
"It's got nothing to do with idleness. That's a convenient excuse used by those who didn't have to pay a fortune for higher education and didn't have to wait until they were in their mid to late thirties to buy property.
It's about the younger generation facing the prospect of having to spend their entire lives working to pay the debt accrued for an education and home. The older generation had free higher education and were able to have the house paid off by the time they retired, if not before."
And who is to blame, the middle generation and banks who borrowed money they couldn't afford to pay back.
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comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
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How fortunate for them then.
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Uncanny how frequently hard work and good fortune seem to coincide...
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As ignoring the rest of a post when you don't have an answer does
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Just as you did to mine earlier... Chill now Mr hypocrite.
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If everyone has a degree, no-one does.
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Precisely.
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comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 second ago
How fortunate for them then.
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Uncanny how frequently hard work and good fortune seem to coincide...
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As ignoring the rest of a post when you don't have an answer does
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Just as you did to mine earlier... Chill now Mr hypocrite.
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Oh I am Chill. Mine was just a joke anyway...
My best mate for example works 16 hours a day as a chef in London, 4/5 days a week. Chances of getting on the ladder there are slim to none, I'll drop him a text later advising him to graft a bit harder.
My best friend is a chef and he puts in 88 hours a week. He just recently bought a house with his girlfriend (who he never gets to see because of his career choice). I know how hard chefs work, but to suggest that getting on the property ladder is an unattainable dream simply isn't true. I guess everyone just wants the 4 bedroom, big garden in Wilmslow first home these days.
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My best friend is a chef and he puts in 88 hours a week. He just recently bought a house with his girlfriend (who he never gets to see because of his career choice). I know how hard chefs work, but to suggest that getting on the property ladder is an unattainable dream simply isn't true. I guess everyone just wants the 4 bedroom, big garden in Wilmslow first home these days.
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Leave Paul out of this.
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I don't get the Paul reference
Lambeau
I'm not saying that everyone should be university educated. I'm saying that the next generation of skilled workers, that do require Uni education are having to pay through the nose for it. The older generation had a head start by not finishing uni with thousands of pounds worth of debt already accrued. This hinders the possibility of getting on the housing market.
Equally those in skilled labour are also less likely to be able to get on the property ladder, and are also more likely to have to work longer hours than their older predecessors.
Yet you have the cheek to label this generation 'entitled' and lazy. That's what I have an issue with.
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Cal Neva
Not sure I recall the future of Canary Wharf ever been at risk? It’s the largest financial sector in the world.
And who are these ‘most people’?
Nearly each and every lender that requires passporting all said prior to the referendum that they would have to make contingency plans in the event of an exit. Lloyds insurance were one of the few who said publically (most wouldn’t as would probably affect share price) they would have to move operations back inside the SM.
While lenders could apply for authorisation for each EU country (27) the costs involved would far outweigh simply moving operations back inside the EU.
As I noted the contribution financial services makes to the UK economy is huge. In taxes alone.
posted on 13/10/16
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 13 minutes ago
When did this country start to despise it's youth so much?
-
Probably around the same time the youth of this country started to hate their country... You can't expect the older generation to pander to the whims of an ungrateful apologist generation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do the younger generation hate their country or do they have genuine grievances?
I'd say considering they don't benefit from cheap housing, free higher education and the opportunity to save for a very healthy pension, to live off in their latter years, the younger generation have every right to complain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If they work hard they can acquire those things regardless. Don't make excuses for idleness. My younger siblings are in their mid/late twenties and had no problems getting on the property ladder.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's got nothing to do with idleness. That's a convenient excuse used by those who didn't have to pay a fortune for higher education and didn't have to wait until they were in their mid to late thirties to buy property.
It's about the younger generation facing the prospect of having to spend their entire lives working to pay the debt accrued for an education and home. The older generation had free higher education and were able to have the house paid off by the time they retired, if not before.
I'd be a bit narked if I were told I'm workshy and lazy by a generation that had it much easier. Especially considering I will have to work much harder than them.
posted on 13/10/16
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posted on 13/10/16
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 13 minutes ago
When did this country start to despise it's youth so much?
-
Probably around the same time the youth of this country started to hate their country... You can't expect the older generation to pander to the whims of an ungrateful apologist generation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do the younger generation hate their country or do they have genuine grievances?
I'd say considering they don't benefit from cheap housing, free higher education and the opportunity to save for a very healthy pension, to live off in their latter years, the younger generation have every right to complain.
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If they work hard they can acquire those things regardless. Don't make excuses for idleness. My younger siblings are in their mid/late twenties and had no problems getting on the property ladder.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What do they do?
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The older of my 2 brothers is a successful builder (he dropped out of school at 14 to pursue that because the curriculum didn't cater for it).
The other brother works in advertising at a creative agency.
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That's a convenient excuse used by those who didn't have to pay a fortune for higher education and didn't have to wait until they were in their mid to late thirties to buy property.
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Sorry, but the higher education fee excuse just doesn't wash. The loan repayments are negligible and have no bearing whatsoever on acquiring a mortgage. The problem in this country is that for two decades our government has been shoehorning people into higher education. The result being that we have a lack of skilled labour, and a surplus of unskilled people who can't find work after University because their degree doesn't give them an obvious career path, and their qualifications and university actually put them into the market against people they shouldn't be competing with for those jobs. That's why so many university grads end up in call centres 2 or 3 years after graduating.
We should be encouraging our youth to explore options that will actually stand them in good stead to get a job. Not throwing up polytechnics on every street corner and offering out university places and loans to people getting D's and E's at college, just so they too can enjoy a government subsidised three year boozing session.
New Labour has a lot to answer for.
posted on 13/10/16
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 13 minutes ago
When did this country start to despise it's youth so much?
-
Probably around the same time the youth of this country started to hate their country... You can't expect the older generation to pander to the whims of an ungrateful apologist generation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do the younger generation hate their country or do they have genuine grievances?
I'd say considering they don't benefit from cheap housing, free higher education and the opportunity to save for a very healthy pension, to live off in their latter years, the younger generation have every right to complain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If they work hard they can acquire those things regardless. Don't make excuses for idleness. My younger siblings are in their mid/late twenties and had no problems getting on the property ladder.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What do they do?
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The older of my 2 brothers is a successful builder (he dropped out of school at 14 to pursue that because the curriculum didn't cater for it).
The other brother works in advertising at a creative agency.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How fortunate for them then. Bit fecking cheeky to come on here moaning how all the younger generation do is complain online, then to do nothing but moan about how workshy they are. I actually find it very difficult to get on the ladder, despite putting what I'd consider to be a decent graft each week in, and have good mates who are in similar positions. It's not a conspiracy that the housing market is difficult for first time buyers.
posted on 13/10/16
Cal Neva
Why do you think there won’t be a “fall out?”
Do you honestly think global banks based in London, are going to lose out on potential/and existing customer base of around 500m people, (accepting a financial loss)?
France, Germany, Luxemburg etc etc have been trying to acquire these businesses for years, (long before the ref). Brexit has pretty much given them the best opportunity they will ever have of acquiring them.
posted on 13/10/16
comment by CoutinhosHappyFeet (U18971)
posted 13 minutes ago
Do the younger generation hate their country or do they have genuine grievances?
I'd say considering they don't benefit from cheap housing, free higher education and the opportunity to save for a very healthy pension, to live off in their latter years, the younger generation have every right to complain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why?
Not all baby boomers live in the lap of luxury. I was born in the baby-boomer era yet have none of these so-called benefits that all baby-boomers are supposed to enjoy.
I didn't benefit from cheap housing when I was younger. I couldn't afford to get onto the property ladder until my mid 30s (and then only because both myself and my wife were working so we could use our joint income to calculate the mortgage).
I work bloody hard and have done most of my life (since I was 15) yet I can't afford to save and I certainly won't have a healthy pension when I get to retire in 2029 (if I live that long).
My wife is older than me, suffers ill health and cannot work but is not eligible for state benefits because she can dress herself and walk 100 yards. That apparently is enough to deem her fit for work.
So please tell me where I have benefited?
posted on 13/10/16
How fortunate for them then.
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Uncanny how frequently hard work and good fortune seem to coincide...
posted on 13/10/16
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 second ago
How fortunate for them then.
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Uncanny how frequently hard work and good fortune seem to coincide...
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As ignoring the rest of a post when you don't have an answer does
posted on 13/10/16
"It's got nothing to do with idleness. That's a convenient excuse used by those who didn't have to pay a fortune for higher education and didn't have to wait until they were in their mid to late thirties to buy property.
It's about the younger generation facing the prospect of having to spend their entire lives working to pay the debt accrued for an education and home. The older generation had free higher education and were able to have the house paid off by the time they retired, if not before."
And who is to blame, the middle generation and banks who borrowed money they couldn't afford to pay back.
posted on 13/10/16
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 second ago
How fortunate for them then.
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Uncanny how frequently hard work and good fortune seem to coincide...
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As ignoring the rest of a post when you don't have an answer does
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Just as you did to mine earlier... Chill now Mr hypocrite.
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If everyone has a degree, no-one does.
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Precisely.
posted on 13/10/16
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by gratedbean (U4885)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 second ago
How fortunate for them then.
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Uncanny how frequently hard work and good fortune seem to coincide...
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As ignoring the rest of a post when you don't have an answer does
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Just as you did to mine earlier... Chill now Mr hypocrite.
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Oh I am Chill. Mine was just a joke anyway...
My best mate for example works 16 hours a day as a chef in London, 4/5 days a week. Chances of getting on the ladder there are slim to none, I'll drop him a text later advising him to graft a bit harder.
posted on 13/10/16
My best friend is a chef and he puts in 88 hours a week. He just recently bought a house with his girlfriend (who he never gets to see because of his career choice). I know how hard chefs work, but to suggest that getting on the property ladder is an unattainable dream simply isn't true. I guess everyone just wants the 4 bedroom, big garden in Wilmslow first home these days.
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comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 21 seconds ago
My best friend is a chef and he puts in 88 hours a week. He just recently bought a house with his girlfriend (who he never gets to see because of his career choice). I know how hard chefs work, but to suggest that getting on the property ladder is an unattainable dream simply isn't true. I guess everyone just wants the 4 bedroom, big garden in Wilmslow first home these days.
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Leave Paul out of this.
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I don't get the Paul reference
posted on 13/10/16
Lambeau
I'm not saying that everyone should be university educated. I'm saying that the next generation of skilled workers, that do require Uni education are having to pay through the nose for it. The older generation had a head start by not finishing uni with thousands of pounds worth of debt already accrued. This hinders the possibility of getting on the housing market.
Equally those in skilled labour are also less likely to be able to get on the property ladder, and are also more likely to have to work longer hours than their older predecessors.
Yet you have the cheek to label this generation 'entitled' and lazy. That's what I have an issue with.
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