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comment by Galvs (U10415)
posted 3 minutes ago
You could argue that if he was in so much pain, why didn't he pull out?
If he knew something wasn't right...
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Unfortunately people need food and shelter and to provide for their family, another thing the state is cutting back on if you can't do it.
And you know this isn't the only case like this, where doctor turn away patients and they die, or get them to phone up helplines and they get the wrong advice.
The doctors also gave him pain killers, they mask the pain, but the problem is still there. Another common practice of doctors.
You can't lay the blame solely at the NHS here.
If he was in so much pain then he clearly knew something was wrong and shouldn't have fought. He gambled with his own life and lost, leaving a partner and young child behind.
His partner has also mentioned how dehydration also most likely played a part in his death too, which hasn't been the first time this has been mentioned with boxers drastically trying to lose weight the night before a fight.
Have never understood why boxers can't just fight at their natural weights instead of effectively trying to cheat by cutting weight and fighting guys that could weigh a stone lighter than them come fight night.
Also, whether you like it or not.. Doctors/hospitals can't just give everyone that walks off the street brain scans and other expensive treatments straight off.
He'd have no doubt been told to book an appointment or been given an appointment for a scan at a later date.
As it is the NHS has limited resources, limited amount of machines, limited amount of doctors and nurses etc which is why they have to book people in for scans.
Personally, if you're job is in combat sport and you know you're health is likely to suffer, then it should be a stick on that you have private health insurance for exactly these kind of scenarios. You can get health plans for less than it costs you for a Sky tv package or monthly mobile phone contract so there's no excuse really.
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 4 hours, 50 minutes ago
You can't lay the blame solely at the NHS here.
If he was in so much pain then he clearly knew something was wrong and shouldn't have fought. He gambled with his own life and lost, leaving a partner and young child behind.
His partner has also mentioned how dehydration also most likely played a part in his death too, which hasn't been the first time this has been mentioned with boxers drastically trying to lose weight the night before a fight.
Have never understood why boxers can't just fight at their natural weights instead of effectively trying to cheat by cutting weight and fighting guys that could weigh a stone lighter than them come fight night.
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Yes I can. They misdiagnosed him, they said it was a migraine and take some pain killers. Even though he pleaded with them it was something more serious.
And don't think this is an isolated case where the NHS dismiss serious ill patients, saying they have something minor when it something much more serious and they pay with their lives.
It no coincidence that a cut in NHS funding has seen an increase in cases like this
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 7 hours, 4 minutes ago
Also, whether you like it or not.. Doctors/hospitals can't just give everyone that walks off the street brain scans and other expensive treatments straight off.
He'd have no doubt been told to book an appointment or been given an appointment for a scan at a later date.
As it is the NHS has limited resources, limited amount of machines, limited amount of doctors and nurses etc which is why they have to book people in for scans.
Personally, if you're job is in combat sport and you know you're health is likely to suffer, then it should be a stick on that you have private health insurance for exactly these kind of scenarios. You can get health plans for less than it costs you for a Sky tv package or monthly mobile phone contract so there's no excuse really.
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No, they never booked him for a scan, they said it was a migraine.
Well just as a private health company the NHS will get sued, for malpractice, shame it had to cost a man's life. He wasn't the first and he won't be the last.
So what was actually wrong with him when he went to see them? It hasn't been reported as far as I know so how do you know he was misdiagnosed?
A bleed on the brain is very rare so is hardly the first port of call for a doctor. Migraines are much more common and he was displaying the symptoms of a migraine. If everyone who walked into A&E with migraine symptoms were treated to brain scans the NHS would be bankrupt in no time, not to mention the logistics of it.. There are only a limited number of MRI scanners and a very large waiting list to use them. They cost a fortune to run and maintain too.
Think you're being overly harsh on the NHS who do a bloody good job with the limited resources available. At the end of the day there was one person responsible for that boxers health and it was himself.
He knew he was suffering severe headaches and still fought. He gambled with his life and paid the price ultimately.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/my-baby-had-meningitis-but-was-given-paracetamol-we-hope-nhs-learns-from-his-death-a3368491.html
The mother of a baby who died after doctors failed to spot meningitis today spoke of her hope that the NHS would learn lessons from the tragedy.
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These are not isolated cases
Of the millions of people who go through A&E every year there's of course going to be a few isolated cases.
In a perfect world it wouldn't happen, but surprise! the world isn't perfect.
You can't blame the NHS for this. He obviously knew something was wrong.. It's what his missus said, yet he still went ahead and fought anyway without disclosing his headaches to his management.
If anything boxing should be doing more to ensure boxers are given a full medical before each fight, maybe a week before it to ensure they are fit.
The sport is light years behind other sports in how it treats and looks after its participants.
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
Of the millions of people who go through A&E every year there's of course going to be a few isolated cases.
In a perfect world it wouldn't happen, but surprise! the world isn't perfect.
You can't blame the NHS for this. He obviously knew something was wrong.. It's what his missus said, yet he still went ahead and fought anyway without disclosing his headaches to his management.
If anything boxing should be doing more to ensure boxers are given a full medical before each fight, maybe a week before it to ensure they are fit.
The sport is light years behind other sports in how it treats and looks after its participants.
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His wife is, and the courts will decide if the NHS are to blame. They have been found culpable numerous times, but no amount of money can bring those loved ones back from the dead
Then he shouldn't have boxed.
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better than indecision. (U10162)
posted 4 hours, 2 minutes ago
Then he shouldn't have boxed.
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Also his management, trainer and promoter were all more than aware of the headache problems in the build up to the fight but refused to pull him out, he had to pull out of numerous sparring sessions in training. They should have pulled him out the fight no question. Im with Jukebox here the NHS simply cannot just give anyone a brain scan upon the patients request they are very costly. the treatments and care a fighter gets on fight night is very good now but in the training camps prior to fights is extremely poor and is where most problems (like concussions etc take place) its also not uncommon for a fighter (mainly those who are not overly financially set up) not to disclose an injury in the build up to a fight and claim the injury was picked up during fight night and use the fight insurance to then treat it.
For me the fighter, the fighters family, his trainer, manager and promoter were all aware there was problems and did nothing at all. IMO you can volley all the blame at the NHS for not providing a brain scan due to financial restrictions but at the same time disolve the blame at the team around him who also didnt wanna lose out financially for postponing/cancelling the fight.
A boxer will know if they have something more than a headache, it's not uncommon to pick them up after sparring etc...
His decision to box was probably a pressurised gamble, and sadly he's lost his life.
I do sympathise with him. I went to my GP about chronic stomach ache. Was prescribed some painkillers, and told it would most likely pass in 72 hours.
The next morning my appendix burst, a potentially life threatening incident.
Even recently, they refuse to give me a scan on my back after TWO YEARS of complaining of worsening back problems.
I do understand there are budgets and so on to stick within, but after light research, appendicitis is an easy diagnosis, and a normal 'muscle spasm' doesn't last years...
It really is a sad case for him. Most like misadvised and pressured by everyone around him, guess it's a lesson to us all to go with your own gut feeling.
May he rest in peace.
He was misadvised by the NHS who said it was a migraine without a decent diagnosis.
That is who let him down. I do take on board that before every pro bout the should be medical checks as routine though.
I was never given checks too and could have died if I had not kept on going back, took 10 years for them to get round to it though.
The NHS is a joke, and the public will pay with their lives
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 8 hours, 52 minutes ago
He was misadvised by the NHS who said it was a migraine without a decent diagnosis.
That is who let him down. I do take on board that before every pro bout the should be medical checks as routine though.
I was never given checks too and could have died if I had not kept on going back, took 10 years for them to get round to it though.
The NHS is a joke, and the public will pay with their lives
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Sorry but the NHS is not a joke, now way 99% of the people employed by the NHS do a sterling job...the funding they are given and what they have to woork with are insufficient.
As was said everyone involved with Mike knew there was something not right and gambled ....tragically the gamble didnt pay off.
The boxing scene tho is far worse than any blame you can levvy at the NHS. Routine checks should be in place for professional boxers at all levels the amount of money that is generated at the top end of boxing is obscene (Joshua fights against very poor opposition rakes in tens of millions each time) none of this gets filtered down the levels tho. Fighters should have checks and procedures put in place even when they dont have fights booked in place and are still sparring etc.... this should also include drug testing all year round. Its supposed to be professional it should be run accordingly ..... in a professional manner regardless of levels be that domestic small hall fighters or showtime fighters..
the sport is too blame NOT the NHS
Everyone knew, but the medical doctors that checked him out when he was literally rolling around on the floor with pain, didn't have a clue.
Not much of a doctor, if his trainer, manager and whoever else knew and the doctor didn't.
Mike get back from the hospital. Don't worry the doctor said it was just a migraine and take these pills to mask the pain and leave the problem unchecked.
That is gross negligence. You might want to make excuses for it, I won't and Mike and his family deserve better.
But allow this to go unchecked and one day when it your family member or you that receives poor health care from the NHS you might the failings.
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 11 hours, 37 minutes ago
He was misadvised by the NHS who said it was a migraine without a decent diagnosis.
That is who let him down. I do take on board that before every pro bout the should be medical checks as routine though.
I was never given checks too and could have died if I had not kept on going back, took 10 years for them to get round to it though.
The NHS is a joke, and the public will pay with their lives
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If you think the NHS is a joke go move to America where you have to remortgage your house just to pay for a broken leg, or heart surgery.
If there's one thing Britain should be proud of, it's our NHS.
You sound like a right tbh.
"Everyone knew, but the medical doctors that checked him out when he was literally rolling around on the floor with pain, didn't have a clue."
You aren't seriously saying everyone in his camp knew he had a potential bleed on the brain. All they knew was that he'd been suffering migraines, which is what the doctors diagnosed too. Brain bleeds are incredibly rare.. And there's been no evidence I've heard so far that he had a bleed on the brain the day he went to the hospital, it's just speculation.
He and his team had a responsibility towards his health and they all gambled with fatal consequence. If he thought it was that serious, so serious that he was rolling about the floor in agony then there is no way he should have fought, and should have went back to the hospital to explain the symptoms hadn't subsided.
Then he might have had a chance as the doctors would then have realised it may be more than just a migraine and he would've got his scan.
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 11 hours, 37 minutes ago
He was misadvised by the NHS who said it was a migraine without a decent diagnosis.
That is who let him down. I do take on board that before every pro bout the should be medical checks as routine though.
I was never given checks too and could have died if I had not kept on going back, took 10 years for them to get round to it though.
The NHS is a joke, and the public will pay with their lives
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If you think the NHS is a joke go move to America where you have to remortgage your house just to pay for a broken leg, or heart surgery.
If there's one thing Britain should be proud of, it's our NHS.
You sound like a righttbh.
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I have a job and would get a good health insurance. I had family live in the states for job purposes. And the level of care they receives was first class. Superior in every department.
I have also went private here in the UK, and and the care your receive is amazing, you actually feel like they want to help you rather than treating you like a time consuming burden that they want to move on as quickly as possible.
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 0 seconds ago
"Everyone knew, but the medical doctors that checked him out when he was literally rolling around on the floor with pain, didn't have a clue."
You aren't seriously saying everyone in his camp knew he had a potential bleed on the brain. All they knew was that he'd been suffering migraines, which is what the doctors diagnosed too. Brain bleeds are incredibly rare.. And there's been no evidence I've heard so far that he had a bleed on the brain the day he went to the hospital, it's just speculation.
He and his team had a responsibility towards his health and they all gambled with fatal consequence. If he thought it was that serious, so serious that he was rolling about the floor in agony then there is no way he should have fought, and should have went back to the hospital to explain the symptoms hadn't subsided.
Then he might have had a chance as the doctors would then have realised it may be more than just a migraine and he would've got his scan.
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Someone was making the case his team knew. His symptoms subsided because the doctors doped him up on pain killers another NHS practice, don't fix the problem, just mask it.
They never gambled at all, they were told by the doctor it was just a migraine. But then again they were stupid to trust an NHS doctor.
Honestly, you sound like the worst type of pr1ck.
I bet you read the Daily Mail/Express and hate Johnny Foreigner.
Did you cry when Princess Diana died?
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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 5 minutes ago
Rich ex-boxer hates on NHS....
Not everyone has had your priviledges, including the dead boxer you're using to attack the NHS.
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I'm not rich or an ex boxer. Had one amateur fight and that's it. I had to make the financial sacrifice for my health because the NHS was unreliable. The standards of care are world's apart and if had to wait hours in A&E whilst family members cry in pain maybe you will see what a poor system we have.
At least EVERYONE here can be treated.
If the standards are so poor how come we're living longer and have some of the best doctors and facilities in the world.
Maybe if our government didn't waste billions upgrading nuclear warheads then we could hire more doctors and nurses to reduce waiting times, and buy more first class medical equipment and drugs.
But nah, let's just biitch and moan because there's a few cases where they get it wrong and you have to wait a couple of hours to be seen.
Some people don't realise just how lucky they are. Try living somewhere where seeing a doctor is just a pipe dream and there is no medicine. Absolute clown.
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
At least EVERYONE here can be treated.
If the standards are so poor how come we're living longer and have some of the best doctors and facilities in the world.
Maybe if our government didn't waste billions upgrading nuclear warheads then we could hire more doctors and nurses to reduce waiting times, and buy more first class medical equipment and drugs.
But nah, let's just biitch and moan because there's a few cases where they get it wrong and you have to wait a couple of hours to be seen.
Some people don't realise just how lucky they are. Try living somewhere where seeing a doctor is just a pipe dream and there is no medicine. Absolute clown.
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The UK has the worst Cancer survival rates in western Europe and America. And no, we all don't get treated. Life expectancy hasn't shifted in 20 years.
Maybe if breast augmentation was not a NHS service we would have more money for things that are a matter of life and death.
These cases are peoples lives, don't trivialized them.
I know many people who get their medical treatment outside the UK now, because it is at a higher standard and they can get it done immediately.
The system is failing, and you are turning a blind eye at it.
Wake UP!
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posted on 1/11/16
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posted on 1/11/16
comment by Galvs (U10415)
posted 3 minutes ago
You could argue that if he was in so much pain, why didn't he pull out?
If he knew something wasn't right...
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Unfortunately people need food and shelter and to provide for their family, another thing the state is cutting back on if you can't do it.
And you know this isn't the only case like this, where doctor turn away patients and they die, or get them to phone up helplines and they get the wrong advice.
The doctors also gave him pain killers, they mask the pain, but the problem is still there. Another common practice of doctors.
posted on 2/11/16
You can't lay the blame solely at the NHS here.
If he was in so much pain then he clearly knew something was wrong and shouldn't have fought. He gambled with his own life and lost, leaving a partner and young child behind.
His partner has also mentioned how dehydration also most likely played a part in his death too, which hasn't been the first time this has been mentioned with boxers drastically trying to lose weight the night before a fight.
Have never understood why boxers can't just fight at their natural weights instead of effectively trying to cheat by cutting weight and fighting guys that could weigh a stone lighter than them come fight night.
posted on 2/11/16
Also, whether you like it or not.. Doctors/hospitals can't just give everyone that walks off the street brain scans and other expensive treatments straight off.
He'd have no doubt been told to book an appointment or been given an appointment for a scan at a later date.
As it is the NHS has limited resources, limited amount of machines, limited amount of doctors and nurses etc which is why they have to book people in for scans.
Personally, if you're job is in combat sport and you know you're health is likely to suffer, then it should be a stick on that you have private health insurance for exactly these kind of scenarios. You can get health plans for less than it costs you for a Sky tv package or monthly mobile phone contract so there's no excuse really.
posted on 2/11/16
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 4 hours, 50 minutes ago
You can't lay the blame solely at the NHS here.
If he was in so much pain then he clearly knew something was wrong and shouldn't have fought. He gambled with his own life and lost, leaving a partner and young child behind.
His partner has also mentioned how dehydration also most likely played a part in his death too, which hasn't been the first time this has been mentioned with boxers drastically trying to lose weight the night before a fight.
Have never understood why boxers can't just fight at their natural weights instead of effectively trying to cheat by cutting weight and fighting guys that could weigh a stone lighter than them come fight night.
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Yes I can. They misdiagnosed him, they said it was a migraine and take some pain killers. Even though he pleaded with them it was something more serious.
And don't think this is an isolated case where the NHS dismiss serious ill patients, saying they have something minor when it something much more serious and they pay with their lives.
It no coincidence that a cut in NHS funding has seen an increase in cases like this
posted on 2/11/16
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 7 hours, 4 minutes ago
Also, whether you like it or not.. Doctors/hospitals can't just give everyone that walks off the street brain scans and other expensive treatments straight off.
He'd have no doubt been told to book an appointment or been given an appointment for a scan at a later date.
As it is the NHS has limited resources, limited amount of machines, limited amount of doctors and nurses etc which is why they have to book people in for scans.
Personally, if you're job is in combat sport and you know you're health is likely to suffer, then it should be a stick on that you have private health insurance for exactly these kind of scenarios. You can get health plans for less than it costs you for a Sky tv package or monthly mobile phone contract so there's no excuse really.
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No, they never booked him for a scan, they said it was a migraine.
Well just as a private health company the NHS will get sued, for malpractice, shame it had to cost a man's life. He wasn't the first and he won't be the last.
posted on 2/11/16
So what was actually wrong with him when he went to see them? It hasn't been reported as far as I know so how do you know he was misdiagnosed?
A bleed on the brain is very rare so is hardly the first port of call for a doctor. Migraines are much more common and he was displaying the symptoms of a migraine. If everyone who walked into A&E with migraine symptoms were treated to brain scans the NHS would be bankrupt in no time, not to mention the logistics of it.. There are only a limited number of MRI scanners and a very large waiting list to use them. They cost a fortune to run and maintain too.
Think you're being overly harsh on the NHS who do a bloody good job with the limited resources available. At the end of the day there was one person responsible for that boxers health and it was himself.
He knew he was suffering severe headaches and still fought. He gambled with his life and paid the price ultimately.
posted on 2/11/16
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/my-baby-had-meningitis-but-was-given-paracetamol-we-hope-nhs-learns-from-his-death-a3368491.html
The mother of a baby who died after doctors failed to spot meningitis today spoke of her hope that the NHS would learn lessons from the tragedy.
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These are not isolated cases
posted on 2/11/16
Of the millions of people who go through A&E every year there's of course going to be a few isolated cases.
In a perfect world it wouldn't happen, but surprise! the world isn't perfect.
You can't blame the NHS for this. He obviously knew something was wrong.. It's what his missus said, yet he still went ahead and fought anyway without disclosing his headaches to his management.
If anything boxing should be doing more to ensure boxers are given a full medical before each fight, maybe a week before it to ensure they are fit.
The sport is light years behind other sports in how it treats and looks after its participants.
posted on 2/11/16
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 3 hours, 27 minutes ago
Of the millions of people who go through A&E every year there's of course going to be a few isolated cases.
In a perfect world it wouldn't happen, but surprise! the world isn't perfect.
You can't blame the NHS for this. He obviously knew something was wrong.. It's what his missus said, yet he still went ahead and fought anyway without disclosing his headaches to his management.
If anything boxing should be doing more to ensure boxers are given a full medical before each fight, maybe a week before it to ensure they are fit.
The sport is light years behind other sports in how it treats and looks after its participants.
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His wife is, and the courts will decide if the NHS are to blame. They have been found culpable numerous times, but no amount of money can bring those loved ones back from the dead
posted on 3/11/16
Then he shouldn't have boxed.
posted on 3/11/16
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better than indecision. (U10162)
posted 4 hours, 2 minutes ago
Then he shouldn't have boxed.
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Also his management, trainer and promoter were all more than aware of the headache problems in the build up to the fight but refused to pull him out, he had to pull out of numerous sparring sessions in training. They should have pulled him out the fight no question. Im with Jukebox here the NHS simply cannot just give anyone a brain scan upon the patients request they are very costly. the treatments and care a fighter gets on fight night is very good now but in the training camps prior to fights is extremely poor and is where most problems (like concussions etc take place) its also not uncommon for a fighter (mainly those who are not overly financially set up) not to disclose an injury in the build up to a fight and claim the injury was picked up during fight night and use the fight insurance to then treat it.
For me the fighter, the fighters family, his trainer, manager and promoter were all aware there was problems and did nothing at all. IMO you can volley all the blame at the NHS for not providing a brain scan due to financial restrictions but at the same time disolve the blame at the team around him who also didnt wanna lose out financially for postponing/cancelling the fight.
posted on 4/11/16
A boxer will know if they have something more than a headache, it's not uncommon to pick them up after sparring etc...
His decision to box was probably a pressurised gamble, and sadly he's lost his life.
I do sympathise with him. I went to my GP about chronic stomach ache. Was prescribed some painkillers, and told it would most likely pass in 72 hours.
The next morning my appendix burst, a potentially life threatening incident.
Even recently, they refuse to give me a scan on my back after TWO YEARS of complaining of worsening back problems.
I do understand there are budgets and so on to stick within, but after light research, appendicitis is an easy diagnosis, and a normal 'muscle spasm' doesn't last years...
It really is a sad case for him. Most like misadvised and pressured by everyone around him, guess it's a lesson to us all to go with your own gut feeling.
May he rest in peace.
posted on 4/11/16
He was misadvised by the NHS who said it was a migraine without a decent diagnosis.
That is who let him down. I do take on board that before every pro bout the should be medical checks as routine though.
I was never given checks too and could have died if I had not kept on going back, took 10 years for them to get round to it though.
The NHS is a joke, and the public will pay with their lives
posted on 4/11/16
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 8 hours, 52 minutes ago
He was misadvised by the NHS who said it was a migraine without a decent diagnosis.
That is who let him down. I do take on board that before every pro bout the should be medical checks as routine though.
I was never given checks too and could have died if I had not kept on going back, took 10 years for them to get round to it though.
The NHS is a joke, and the public will pay with their lives
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Sorry but the NHS is not a joke, now way 99% of the people employed by the NHS do a sterling job...the funding they are given and what they have to woork with are insufficient.
As was said everyone involved with Mike knew there was something not right and gambled ....tragically the gamble didnt pay off.
The boxing scene tho is far worse than any blame you can levvy at the NHS. Routine checks should be in place for professional boxers at all levels the amount of money that is generated at the top end of boxing is obscene (Joshua fights against very poor opposition rakes in tens of millions each time) none of this gets filtered down the levels tho. Fighters should have checks and procedures put in place even when they dont have fights booked in place and are still sparring etc.... this should also include drug testing all year round. Its supposed to be professional it should be run accordingly ..... in a professional manner regardless of levels be that domestic small hall fighters or showtime fighters..
the sport is too blame NOT the NHS
posted on 4/11/16
Everyone knew, but the medical doctors that checked him out when he was literally rolling around on the floor with pain, didn't have a clue.
Not much of a doctor, if his trainer, manager and whoever else knew and the doctor didn't.
Mike get back from the hospital. Don't worry the doctor said it was just a migraine and take these pills to mask the pain and leave the problem unchecked.
That is gross negligence. You might want to make excuses for it, I won't and Mike and his family deserve better.
But allow this to go unchecked and one day when it your family member or you that receives poor health care from the NHS you might the failings.
posted on 4/11/16
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 11 hours, 37 minutes ago
He was misadvised by the NHS who said it was a migraine without a decent diagnosis.
That is who let him down. I do take on board that before every pro bout the should be medical checks as routine though.
I was never given checks too and could have died if I had not kept on going back, took 10 years for them to get round to it though.
The NHS is a joke, and the public will pay with their lives
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If you think the NHS is a joke go move to America where you have to remortgage your house just to pay for a broken leg, or heart surgery.
If there's one thing Britain should be proud of, it's our NHS.
You sound like a right tbh.
posted on 4/11/16
"Everyone knew, but the medical doctors that checked him out when he was literally rolling around on the floor with pain, didn't have a clue."
You aren't seriously saying everyone in his camp knew he had a potential bleed on the brain. All they knew was that he'd been suffering migraines, which is what the doctors diagnosed too. Brain bleeds are incredibly rare.. And there's been no evidence I've heard so far that he had a bleed on the brain the day he went to the hospital, it's just speculation.
He and his team had a responsibility towards his health and they all gambled with fatal consequence. If he thought it was that serious, so serious that he was rolling about the floor in agony then there is no way he should have fought, and should have went back to the hospital to explain the symptoms hadn't subsided.
Then he might have had a chance as the doctors would then have realised it may be more than just a migraine and he would've got his scan.
posted on 4/11/16
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 11 hours, 37 minutes ago
He was misadvised by the NHS who said it was a migraine without a decent diagnosis.
That is who let him down. I do take on board that before every pro bout the should be medical checks as routine though.
I was never given checks too and could have died if I had not kept on going back, took 10 years for them to get round to it though.
The NHS is a joke, and the public will pay with their lives
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If you think the NHS is a joke go move to America where you have to remortgage your house just to pay for a broken leg, or heart surgery.
If there's one thing Britain should be proud of, it's our NHS.
You sound like a righttbh.
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I have a job and would get a good health insurance. I had family live in the states for job purposes. And the level of care they receives was first class. Superior in every department.
I have also went private here in the UK, and and the care your receive is amazing, you actually feel like they want to help you rather than treating you like a time consuming burden that they want to move on as quickly as possible.
posted on 4/11/16
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 0 seconds ago
"Everyone knew, but the medical doctors that checked him out when he was literally rolling around on the floor with pain, didn't have a clue."
You aren't seriously saying everyone in his camp knew he had a potential bleed on the brain. All they knew was that he'd been suffering migraines, which is what the doctors diagnosed too. Brain bleeds are incredibly rare.. And there's been no evidence I've heard so far that he had a bleed on the brain the day he went to the hospital, it's just speculation.
He and his team had a responsibility towards his health and they all gambled with fatal consequence. If he thought it was that serious, so serious that he was rolling about the floor in agony then there is no way he should have fought, and should have went back to the hospital to explain the symptoms hadn't subsided.
Then he might have had a chance as the doctors would then have realised it may be more than just a migraine and he would've got his scan.
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Someone was making the case his team knew. His symptoms subsided because the doctors doped him up on pain killers another NHS practice, don't fix the problem, just mask it.
They never gambled at all, they were told by the doctor it was just a migraine. But then again they were stupid to trust an NHS doctor.
posted on 4/11/16
Honestly, you sound like the worst type of pr1ck.
I bet you read the Daily Mail/Express and hate Johnny Foreigner.
Did you cry when Princess Diana died?
posted on 4/11/16
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posted on 4/11/16
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 5 minutes ago
Rich ex-boxer hates on NHS....
Not everyone has had your priviledges, including the dead boxer you're using to attack the NHS.
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I'm not rich or an ex boxer. Had one amateur fight and that's it. I had to make the financial sacrifice for my health because the NHS was unreliable. The standards of care are world's apart and if had to wait hours in A&E whilst family members cry in pain maybe you will see what a poor system we have.
posted on 4/11/16
At least EVERYONE here can be treated.
If the standards are so poor how come we're living longer and have some of the best doctors and facilities in the world.
Maybe if our government didn't waste billions upgrading nuclear warheads then we could hire more doctors and nurses to reduce waiting times, and buy more first class medical equipment and drugs.
But nah, let's just biitch and moan because there's a few cases where they get it wrong and you have to wait a couple of hours to be seen.
Some people don't realise just how lucky they are. Try living somewhere where seeing a doctor is just a pipe dream and there is no medicine. Absolute clown.
posted on 4/11/16
comment by JukeboxJunkie - A wrong decision is better tha... (U10162)
posted 2 minutes ago
At least EVERYONE here can be treated.
If the standards are so poor how come we're living longer and have some of the best doctors and facilities in the world.
Maybe if our government didn't waste billions upgrading nuclear warheads then we could hire more doctors and nurses to reduce waiting times, and buy more first class medical equipment and drugs.
But nah, let's just biitch and moan because there's a few cases where they get it wrong and you have to wait a couple of hours to be seen.
Some people don't realise just how lucky they are. Try living somewhere where seeing a doctor is just a pipe dream and there is no medicine. Absolute clown.
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The UK has the worst Cancer survival rates in western Europe and America. And no, we all don't get treated. Life expectancy hasn't shifted in 20 years.
Maybe if breast augmentation was not a NHS service we would have more money for things that are a matter of life and death.
These cases are peoples lives, don't trivialized them.
I know many people who get their medical treatment outside the UK now, because it is at a higher standard and they can get it done immediately.
The system is failing, and you are turning a blind eye at it.
Wake UP!
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