We all have to walk our way through life,some of us end up with a god,some with a stick.
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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 second ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
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so what are you suggesting that religion is not enriching people's lives, when clearly it is in this situation.
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Exactly, thanks mate, he neglects all the social aspects I outlined, how the church plays a central role in the community for millions and millions of people.
But because he's right (as always) there is no option of any other path to believe.
And this chap claims to be liberal the exact hypocricy I've been pointing out.
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posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 second ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
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so what are you suggesting that religion is not enriching people's lives, when clearly it is in this situation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It can give people comfort
It's not the 'nice' ones that are the problem, clearly.
But then,. good people don't do bad things, religious or otherwise..Moot point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
keep back tracking there chief
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comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ignorant, she was born and raised in a Catholic community and has always had God as part of her life, you not believing in god doesn't make everyone who does so sort of fool.
You just cannot understand what religion does for a sane person who believes in it because you;re too narrow minded to view it any other way, dare I say you're not being very liberal here
A believer doesn't need God to be moralwhat they do is take the fundamental teachings of their chosen text, love, peace, love they neighbour etc. and try to apply these teachings to their everyday lives.
It is the EXACT same thing as you reading an aethiests teachings on morality and applying these to your life.
Open your eyes and your mind skip
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Wonderful post.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 second ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
so what are you suggesting that religion is not enriching people's lives, when clearly it is in this situation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It can give people comfort
It's not the 'nice' ones that are the problem, clearly.
But then,. good people don't do bad things, religious or otherwise..Moot point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Also should you weigh up religious fundamentalists v normal religious people you'll find it is a very very tiny % that wouldactully hurt anyone in the name of their religion
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 32 minutes ago
It makes rational people do disgusting wicked things.
It's time humans dropped this racket, this lie, this indoctrination that tells little children they will go to hell.
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Not sure what good that would do, take away religion it will just be re-invented.
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I would not bother with the Koeman fellow, I just hope he is not allowed to breed
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 31 minutes ago
Religion can be a good thing to a sensible person. Millions of people take solace from it daily and don't allow it dictate their lives
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Exactly.
"HitlersNazis wore belts with "Gott Mit Uns" which means God With Us on their buckles during WWII"
TBH, this doesn't really mean much. Most who fought against Naz1s also would have had religious symbolism on their garments since it was common to do so at the time. The Naz1s were not motivated by religious extremism and also had many anti-religious aspects to their ideology as well.
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ignorant, she was born and raised in a Catholic community and has always had God as part of her life, you not believing in god doesn't make everyone who does so sort of fool.
You just cannot understand what religion does for a sane person who believes in it because you;re too narrow minded to view it any other way, dare I say you're not being very liberal here
A believer doesn't need God to be moralwhat they do is take the fundamental teachings of their chosen text, love, peace, love they neighbour etc. and try to apply these teachings to their everyday lives.
It is the EXACT same thing as you reading an aethiests teachings on morality and applying these to your life.
Open your eyes and your mind skip
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So she knows about her church supporting slavery....( I suppose God did too so that's fair) or Fascism? that's fine too....how about paedophile priests and the Pope preferring to cover it up then help God's own children?
As long as she has a coffee morning then all the evil can be forgotten
She does not need God to have a social life.....if that't your argument for religion I think its a wasted one.
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I think your missing the point here, its not religions fault all those nasty things happen. Its people once again. Pedo priest, do you actually think the bible, thora and all other testaments condone this sort of behaviour.
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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ignorant, she was born and raised in a Catholic community and has always had God as part of her life, you not believing in god doesn't make everyone who does so sort of fool.
You just cannot understand what religion does for a sane person who believes in it because you;re too narrow minded to view it any other way, dare I say you're not being very liberal here
A believer doesn't need God to be moralwhat they do is take the fundamental teachings of their chosen text, love, peace, love they neighbour etc. and try to apply these teachings to their everyday lives.
It is the EXACT same thing as you reading an aethiests teachings on morality and applying these to your life.
Open your eyes and your mind skip
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So she knows about her church supporting slavery....( I suppose God did too so that's fair) or Fascism? that's fine too....how about paedophile priests and the Pope preferring to cover it up then help God's own children?
As long as she has a coffee morning then all the evil can be forgotten
She does not need God to have a social life.....if that't your argument for religion I think its a wasted one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can go round i ncircles here all day, I could point to the millions of peole the church has helped just as easily as you can point to all it's wrongs
My point is you dismiss relion completley but fail to even acknowledge the good it does in peoples lives, the socail element I describe is onyl one part.
What it so bad abotu a person who feels bad about something, prays and then feels better?
I'll point out here I am not religious, I am not a fan of the catholic chuch for some of the reason you point out, however I really think you need to step back and try see it from another perspective.
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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 second ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
so what are you suggesting that religion is not enriching people's lives, when clearly it is in this situation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It can give people comfort
It's not the 'nice' ones that are the problem, clearly.
But then,. good people don't do bad things, religious or otherwise..Moot point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
keep back tracking there chief
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Sorry...have I offended your Lord?
Grow up
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You tpye this and then tel lme to grow up
It's easy debating you mate.
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People keep mixing up religion and faith, I do not know why.
Even the crusades were not a religious war, it was politics.
Politics is the reason for the wars that have been fought, religion is just a side note
That is why the first thing IS did was to do a land grab and try to destabilise the region and why they kill more muslims than anyone else
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comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ignorant, she was born and raised in a Catholic community and has always had God as part of her life, you not believing in god doesn't make everyone who does so sort of fool.
You just cannot understand what religion does for a sane person who believes in it because you;re too narrow minded to view it any other way, dare I say you're not being very liberal here
A believer doesn't need God to be moralwhat they do is take the fundamental teachings of their chosen text, love, peace, love they neighbour etc. and try to apply these teachings to their everyday lives.
It is the EXACT same thing as you reading an aethiests teachings on morality and applying these to your life.
Open your eyes and your mind skip
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So she knows about her church supporting slavery....( I suppose God did too so that's fair) or Fascism? that's fine too....how about paedophile priests and the Pope preferring to cover it up then help God's own children?
As long as she has a coffee morning then all the evil can be forgotten
She does not need God to have a social life.....if that't your argument for religion I think its a wasted one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think your missing the point here, its not religions fault all those nasty things happen. Its people once again. Pedo priest, do you actually think the bible, thora and all other testaments condone this sort of behaviour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They condone lots of evil things.....
However.....these people go to heaven anyway.....
That's not right is it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How are they condoning evil things, you think they go to church and all high five eachother based on Hitlers actions of a priest fiddling a kid?
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posted on 15/11/16
We all have to walk our way through life,some of us end up with a god,some with a stick.
posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,... (U15631)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 second ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
so what are you suggesting that religion is not enriching people's lives, when clearly it is in this situation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly, thanks mate, he neglects all the social aspects I outlined, how the church plays a central role in the community for millions and millions of people.
But because he's right (as always) there is no option of any other path to believe.
And this chap claims to be liberal the exact hypocricy I've been pointing out.
posted on 15/11/16
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 second ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
so what are you suggesting that religion is not enriching people's lives, when clearly it is in this situation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It can give people comfort
It's not the 'nice' ones that are the problem, clearly.
But then,. good people don't do bad things, religious or otherwise..Moot point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
keep back tracking there chief
posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ignorant, she was born and raised in a Catholic community and has always had God as part of her life, you not believing in god doesn't make everyone who does so sort of fool.
You just cannot understand what religion does for a sane person who believes in it because you;re too narrow minded to view it any other way, dare I say you're not being very liberal here
A believer doesn't need God to be moralwhat they do is take the fundamental teachings of their chosen text, love, peace, love they neighbour etc. and try to apply these teachings to their everyday lives.
It is the EXACT same thing as you reading an aethiests teachings on morality and applying these to your life.
Open your eyes and your mind skip
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wonderful post.
posted on 15/11/16
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 second ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
so what are you suggesting that religion is not enriching people's lives, when clearly it is in this situation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It can give people comfort
It's not the 'nice' ones that are the problem, clearly.
But then,. good people don't do bad things, religious or otherwise..Moot point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Also should you weigh up religious fundamentalists v normal religious people you'll find it is a very very tiny % that wouldactully hurt anyone in the name of their religion
posted on 15/11/16
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 32 minutes ago
It makes rational people do disgusting wicked things.
It's time humans dropped this racket, this lie, this indoctrination that tells little children they will go to hell.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not sure what good that would do, take away religion it will just be re-invented.
posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
I would not bother with the Koeman fellow, I just hope he is not allowed to breed
posted on 15/11/16
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 31 minutes ago
Religion can be a good thing to a sensible person. Millions of people take solace from it daily and don't allow it dictate their lives
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly.
posted on 15/11/16
"HitlersNazis wore belts with "Gott Mit Uns" which means God With Us on their buckles during WWII"
TBH, this doesn't really mean much. Most who fought against Naz1s also would have had religious symbolism on their garments since it was common to do so at the time. The Naz1s were not motivated by religious extremism and also had many anti-religious aspects to their ideology as well.
posted on 15/11/16
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ignorant, she was born and raised in a Catholic community and has always had God as part of her life, you not believing in god doesn't make everyone who does so sort of fool.
You just cannot understand what religion does for a sane person who believes in it because you;re too narrow minded to view it any other way, dare I say you're not being very liberal here
A believer doesn't need God to be moralwhat they do is take the fundamental teachings of their chosen text, love, peace, love they neighbour etc. and try to apply these teachings to their everyday lives.
It is the EXACT same thing as you reading an aethiests teachings on morality and applying these to your life.
Open your eyes and your mind skip
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So she knows about her church supporting slavery....( I suppose God did too so that's fair) or Fascism? that's fine too....how about paedophile priests and the Pope preferring to cover it up then help God's own children?
As long as she has a coffee morning then all the evil can be forgotten
She does not need God to have a social life.....if that't your argument for religion I think its a wasted one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think your missing the point here, its not religions fault all those nasty things happen. Its people once again. Pedo priest, do you actually think the bible, thora and all other testaments condone this sort of behaviour.
posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ignorant, she was born and raised in a Catholic community and has always had God as part of her life, you not believing in god doesn't make everyone who does so sort of fool.
You just cannot understand what religion does for a sane person who believes in it because you;re too narrow minded to view it any other way, dare I say you're not being very liberal here
A believer doesn't need God to be moralwhat they do is take the fundamental teachings of their chosen text, love, peace, love they neighbour etc. and try to apply these teachings to their everyday lives.
It is the EXACT same thing as you reading an aethiests teachings on morality and applying these to your life.
Open your eyes and your mind skip
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So she knows about her church supporting slavery....( I suppose God did too so that's fair) or Fascism? that's fine too....how about paedophile priests and the Pope preferring to cover it up then help God's own children?
As long as she has a coffee morning then all the evil can be forgotten
She does not need God to have a social life.....if that't your argument for religion I think its a wasted one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can go round i ncircles here all day, I could point to the millions of peole the church has helped just as easily as you can point to all it's wrongs
My point is you dismiss relion completley but fail to even acknowledge the good it does in peoples lives, the socail element I describe is onyl one part.
What it so bad abotu a person who feels bad about something, prays and then feels better?
I'll point out here I am not religious, I am not a fan of the catholic chuch for some of the reason you point out, however I really think you need to step back and try see it from another perspective.
posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 second ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
so what are you suggesting that religion is not enriching people's lives, when clearly it is in this situation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It can give people comfort
It's not the 'nice' ones that are the problem, clearly.
But then,. good people don't do bad things, religious or otherwise..Moot point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
keep back tracking there chief
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry...have I offended your Lord?
Grow up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You tpye this and then tel lme to grow up
It's easy debating you mate.
posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
People keep mixing up religion and faith, I do not know why.
Even the crusades were not a religious war, it was politics.
Politics is the reason for the wars that have been fought, religion is just a side note
That is why the first thing IS did was to do a land grab and try to destabilise the region and why they kill more muslims than anyone else
posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
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posted on 15/11/16
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Number 1 unless we are number 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 (U15631)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Galvs. (U10415)
posted 1 minute ago
I fear it is you that is naive.
Your dear Mother could do all that and more WITHOUT belief in a fairy or God.
Also, if you NEED God for morality then you're not really a nice person.
You do not have to believe in the paranormal to be a better person.
God is nothing....he doesn't deserve credit.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So ignorant, she was born and raised in a Catholic community and has always had God as part of her life, you not believing in god doesn't make everyone who does so sort of fool.
You just cannot understand what religion does for a sane person who believes in it because you;re too narrow minded to view it any other way, dare I say you're not being very liberal here
A believer doesn't need God to be moralwhat they do is take the fundamental teachings of their chosen text, love, peace, love they neighbour etc. and try to apply these teachings to their everyday lives.
It is the EXACT same thing as you reading an aethiests teachings on morality and applying these to your life.
Open your eyes and your mind skip
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So she knows about her church supporting slavery....( I suppose God did too so that's fair) or Fascism? that's fine too....how about paedophile priests and the Pope preferring to cover it up then help God's own children?
As long as she has a coffee morning then all the evil can be forgotten
She does not need God to have a social life.....if that't your argument for religion I think its a wasted one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think your missing the point here, its not religions fault all those nasty things happen. Its people once again. Pedo priest, do you actually think the bible, thora and all other testaments condone this sort of behaviour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They condone lots of evil things.....
However.....these people go to heaven anyway.....
That's not right is it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How are they condoning evil things, you think they go to church and all high five eachother based on Hitlers actions of a priest fiddling a kid?
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