" However the implications of completely breaking the wage structure that have at Arsenal could be catastrophic "

If we have 2 special players at the club, we should break our wage structure for them, if that's what is needed to keep them. This is hardly the same as Ramsey asking for the same contract

comment by Cereal Spiller - Exhales as zinc (U12126)
posted 1 minute ago
" However the implications of completely breaking the wage structure that have at Arsenal could be catastrophic "

If we have 2 special players at the club, we should break our wage structure for them, if that's what is needed to keep them. This is hardly the same as Ramsey asking for the same contract
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I get what you are saying (and to a large degree agree) but the idea of giving anyone a blank cheque is frankly ridiculous and is not the way progressive business is done.

comment by citrenoogeht (U13932)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Cereal Spiller - Exhales as zinc (U12126)
posted 1 minute ago
" However the implications of completely breaking the wage structure that have at Arsenal could be catastrophic "

If we have 2 special players at the club, we should break our wage structure for them, if that's what is needed to keep them. This is hardly the same as Ramsey asking for the same contract
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I get what you are saying (and to a large degree agree) but the idea of giving anyone a blank cheque is frankly ridiculous and is not the way progressive business is done.
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The blank cheque stuff is purely hypothetical. We are getting a ton of money for a new TV deal.The amount is received is ridiculous as well. End of the day, if we want to progress as a club, we need to keep our best players. And if we can easily afford to pay them what they feel they deserve, I don't see the issue

Have to keep Sanchez at all cost. Not going to find an adequate replacement for him.

Ozil on the other hand hasn't really done enough while at Arsenal to justify those sort of numbers if the figures are in excess of £200k

To have a wage structure is stupid in the first place. We do not live in socialist France. There is now a great disparity of wages earned between positions. So for example wages demanded by a full back is not the same as what a striker would demand. However players can't demand what Pogba earns either. Alexis can only demand what he can get elsewhere. And Arsenal have to see the cost of replacement. The fact is Alexis was tried in the striker position in the first place because Arsenal couldn't find a quality striker in the market so obviously he has the upper hand.

comment by Cereal Spiller - Exhales as zinc (U12126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by citrenoogeht (U13932)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Cereal Spiller - Exhales as zinc (U12126)
posted 1 minute ago

" However the implications of completely breaking the wage structure that have at Arsenal could be catastrophic "

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The blank cheque stuff is purely hypothetical. We are getting a ton of money for a new TV deal.The amount is received is ridiculous as well. End of the day, if we want to progress as a club, we need to keep our best players. And if we can easily afford to pay them what they feel they deserve, I don't see the issue
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Once again, it's hard to argue against your point. You have to realise however that there is an opportunity cost to every deal we negotiate.

comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 17 seconds ago
Have to keep Sanchez at all cost. Not going to find an adequate replacement for him.

Ozil on the other hand hasn't really done enough while at Arsenal to justify those sort of numbers if the figures are in excess of £200k
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Agree with this.

Ozils pre-Arsenal form; I would pay whatever he asked for. Since coming here, though, he's only shown flashes of a 200k+ per week player.

I can understand why they are asking for loads they want parity with the rest of the league which is fair enough. The real culprits in this situation are the likes of United paying silly money for average players like Pogba they've inflated the market far too much.

comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 3 minutes ago
I can understand why they are asking for loads they want parity with the rest of the league which is fair enough. The real culprits in this situation are the likes of United paying silly money for average players like Pogba they've inflated the market far too much.
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Spot on

I'd rather see the money the club generates go to amazing footballers like Sanchez than to our leech of an owner.

Pay Sanchez whatever it takes, we generate more than enough money to have a couple of top players on top wages.

I can understand why they are asking for loads they want parity with the rest of the league
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Parity? Have you seen our wage bill? Man U paying Pogba or Rooney silly money from their bottomless pockets doesn't mean we should all similarly get silly. We're not Man U and even with our considerable budget, we're not nearly as wealthy as they are. What do you think Bayern would pay Ozil? What was Real Madrid even paying him before he arrived Arsenal? What do you think a player like Coutinho earns in Liverpool?

comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 24 minutes ago
I'd rather see the money the club generates go to amazing footballers like Sanchez than to our leech of an owner.

Pay Sanchez whatever it takes, we generate more than enough money to have a couple of top players on top wages.
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be more costly in the long run if he were to sign for a EPL rival.

comment by puffinthebushkangaroo (U1950)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 24 minutes ago
I'd rather see the money the club generates go to amazing footballers like Sanchez than to our leech of an owner.

Pay Sanchez whatever it takes, we generate more than enough money to have a couple of top players on top wages.
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be more costly in the long run if he were to sign for a EPL rival.
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Yes, that too

Parity? Have you seen our wage bill? Man U paying Pogba or Rooney silly money from their bottomless pockets doesn't mean we should all similarly get silly. We're not Man U and even with our considerable budget, we're not nearly as wealthy as they are. What do you think Bayern would pay Ozil? What was Real Madrid even paying him before he arrived Arsenal? What do you think a player like Coutinho earns in Liverpool

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So do you think it's unreasonable for Sanchez too be thinking to himself I'm a better player than Pogba why am I not earning more than him. Both Ozil and Sanchez weren't the best players at their previous clubs and I'm sure they respected that notion thus the reason for not being on silly money there. Right now they are the best players at the club by some distance and are in the top 5 players in the league and they want their pay to reflect that which is fair enough. If other clubs are over inflating the market then Arsenal are going to have to find a way to make it work

Pogba earns £290k a week because his transfer value is around £100m.

Alexis would be valued at about £60m in todays market so he should be around £200k a week.

However for some reason his agent is demanding £300k a week. Does that make sense? But his agent knows how Arsene over value players out of some sense of loyalty that just doesn't exist anymore.

Though this entire episode is something out of nothing. There will be an agreement.

So do you think it's unreasonable for Sanchez too be thinking to himself I'm a better player than Pogba why am I not earning more than him.
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Maybe he should be more focused on earning the same rate as the likes of Hazard, De Bruyne etc - not earning insane money far above ideal market value. that Pogba is earning. Again, we really are not that type of club. Our wage bill is crazy enough as it is. Paying players around 300k-a-week (some rumours have it closer to 400) is not sensible. None of them could lace Messi's boots and he just about earns that much.

Both Ozil and Sanchez weren't the best players at their previous clubs and I'm sure they respected that notion thus the reason for not being on silly money there. Right now they are the best players at the club by some distance and are in the top 5 players in the league and they want their pay to reflect that which is fair enough.
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Ozil was about the biggest name in Madrid after Ronaldo when he was there and he was still paid far less. Modric recently got a contract extension that just about put his wages in 6-figures: he was previously earning barely more than he was in Spurs. Madrid pay their match-winners like Ronaldo and Bale insane money, but they have the bulk of their squad on fairly modest but respectable wages. My problem with paying a player like Ozil crazy money isn't necessarily about the "craziness" of the money, but the simple fact that I don't think he's worth crazy money.

Alexis has to pipe down too. He has often struggled for consistency in Arsenal and he's just looking to cash out on his recent run of form.

Alexis has to pipe down too. He has often struggled for consistency in Arsenal and he's just looking to cash out on his recent run of form.
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What? He's been top class bar an injury hit spell last year.

Mad that we think 200k per week seems fair for a footballer but sadly thats the going rate.

I wouldnt give him 300k per week i'd just let his contract run down and he can leave for free when hes 29.

Alexis has to pipe down too. He has often struggled for consistency in Arsenal and he's just looking to cash out on his recent run of form.
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What? He's been top class bar an injury hit spell last year.
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Come on, man. Several people on this board spent a good part of last season slating Alexis: particularly his sloppiness on the ball. Alexis has been the same right from Barcelona: a player capable of brilliance but can be maddening on some days and he was a frequent target of the boo boys in Barca. We tolerate this more in Arsenal cos he's by far our biggest match-winner. We know that however many times he's caught on the ball, and however many times he cheaply misplaces a pass and breaks down our attacks, he's by far our most potent attacker.

I will never know why people listen or reading all this media bollox and believe it.

When you look at other players at similar level they earn more. Arsenal should pay 200k each. These guys are the difference makers

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 49 minutes ago
Pogba earns £290k a week because his transfer value is around £100m.

Alexis would be valued at about £60m in todays market so he should be around £200k a week.

However for some reason his agent is demanding £300k a week. Does that make sense? But his agent knows how Arsene over value players out of some sense of loyalty that just doesn't exist anymore.
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It doesn't work like that, for very obvious reasons.

comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 8 minutes ago
Alexis has to pipe down too. He has often struggled for consistency in Arsenal and he's just looking to cash out on his recent run of form.
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What? He's been top class bar an injury hit spell last year.
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Come on, man. Several people on this board spent a good part of last season slating Alexis: particularly his sloppiness on the ball. Alexis has been the same right from Barcelona: a player capable of brilliance but can be maddening on some days and he was a frequent target of the boo boys in Barca. We tolerate this more in Arsenal cos he's by far our biggest match-winner. We know that however many times he's caught on the ball, and however many times he cheaply misplaces a pass and breaks down our attacks, he's by far our most potent attacker.
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200k+ a week is the going rate for such a player. But to be honest I don't think it's even about the money, we as a club need to show we're ambitious and moving forward.