Surely if this looked like happening though he could just retire from international football and that would make it null and void no? Then if he ever wants to play for them again just change his mind
Cant believe u can force a plyer to play for their country, surely they can say no.
Sounds like a non story to me.
The example they use was a player pulling out with injury, and he wasn't even banned.
Matip hasn't been playing for Cameroon for ages either. It's not like he suddenly just decided to not play for them.
Non story.
If this was actually enforceable then Sol Campbell would never have played for Arsenal, given the amount of England he games he cried off from.
In all seriousness, it's nonsense. Our lawyers would be all over this one.
Ridiculous if true. It should be the players choice. They are not under contract.
Why doesn't Matip play for his country just out of interest?
He wasn't born there and didn't spend a lot of time growing up there either, so isn't super invested in them I don't believe, unlike mane who would die for Senegal.
In addition something went down with the former manager for Cameroon when he was in charge and he's not interested in playing for Cameroon anymore it seems.
I don't think they can ban him tbh!
It's not like he's played in the recent qualifying games and in fact hasn't played for the nation since the World Cup in 2014.
Allan Nyom of West Brom has played in the qualifiers but has rejected the call up because he wants to protect his place in the team.
"It's not like he's played in the recent qualifying games and in fact hasn't played for the nation since the World Cup in 2014"
If that's the case then why not retire from international football. That way he won't be obliged to play for the national team and there will be fook all FIFA can do about it.
Don't know where FIFA get off telling clubs they have to release players in the middle of a season for international duty. It's the club that pays the players wages.
It is a bit of a joke that you have to do something you don't believe in. They don't pay his wages and he shouldn't have to play for them if he does not want to.
Nobody has a contrqct to play for a country so nobody can force anyone to play internationals or punish someone for not doing so.
It is also completely counter productuve to try to do so.
Footballs version of national service.
Can't see anything coming of this tbh.
If they did do anything to him then I am sure that will just make him not want to play even more!!
If they threaten him with punishment he just retires...simples.
Assuming Matip wrote to the C.F.A. informing them of his decision not to play for them before this call up he can't be punished.
This article from August would suggest that the Cameroon manager knew Matip wouldn't be playing and as such I don't think there is anything that can be done.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-defender-matips-self-imposed-11820074
Surely if a player doesn't want to play for his Country then it is his right to do so.
Hmm, according to FIFA rules,
Rule 3.1
"As a general rule, every player registered with a club is obliged to respond affirmatively when called up by the association he is eligible to represent on the basis of his nationality to play for one of its representative teams."
He could also be banned from playing for 5 extra days.
Rule 5
"A player who has been called up by his association for one of its representative teams is, unless otherwise agreed by the relevant association, not entitled to play for the club with which he is registered during the period for which he has been released or should have been released pursuant to the provisions of this annexe. This restriction on playing for the club shall, moreover, be prolonged by five days in the event that the player, for whatsoever reason, did not wish to or was unable to comply with the call-up."
http://metro.co.uk/2016/12/21/cameroon-can-ask-fifa-to-impose-liverpool-playing-ban-for-joel-matip-beyond-afcon-duration-6337059/
However. Since no action has been taken previously then a precedent has been set and Liverpool could argue that case.
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posted on 20/12/16
Surely if this looked like happening though he could just retire from international football and that would make it null and void no? Then if he ever wants to play for them again just change his mind
posted on 20/12/16
Cant believe u can force a plyer to play for their country, surely they can say no.
posted on 20/12/16
Sounds like a non story to me.
The example they use was a player pulling out with injury, and he wasn't even banned.
Matip hasn't been playing for Cameroon for ages either. It's not like he suddenly just decided to not play for them.
Non story.
posted on 20/12/16
If this was actually enforceable then Sol Campbell would never have played for Arsenal, given the amount of England he games he cried off from.
In all seriousness, it's nonsense. Our lawyers would be all over this one.
posted on 21/12/16
Ridiculous if true. It should be the players choice. They are not under contract.
Why doesn't Matip play for his country just out of interest?
posted on 21/12/16
He wasn't born there and didn't spend a lot of time growing up there either, so isn't super invested in them I don't believe, unlike mane who would die for Senegal.
In addition something went down with the former manager for Cameroon when he was in charge and he's not interested in playing for Cameroon anymore it seems.
posted on 21/12/16
I don't think they can ban him tbh!
It's not like he's played in the recent qualifying games and in fact hasn't played for the nation since the World Cup in 2014.
Allan Nyom of West Brom has played in the qualifiers but has rejected the call up because he wants to protect his place in the team.
posted on 21/12/16
"It's not like he's played in the recent qualifying games and in fact hasn't played for the nation since the World Cup in 2014"
If that's the case then why not retire from international football. That way he won't be obliged to play for the national team and there will be fook all FIFA can do about it.
Don't know where FIFA get off telling clubs they have to release players in the middle of a season for international duty. It's the club that pays the players wages.
posted on 21/12/16
It is a bit of a joke that you have to do something you don't believe in. They don't pay his wages and he shouldn't have to play for them if he does not want to.
posted on 21/12/16
Nobody has a contrqct to play for a country so nobody can force anyone to play internationals or punish someone for not doing so.
It is also completely counter productuve to try to do so.
posted on 21/12/16
Footballs version of national service.
Can't see anything coming of this tbh.
posted on 21/12/16
If they did do anything to him then I am sure that will just make him not want to play even more!!
posted on 21/12/16
If they threaten him with punishment he just retires...simples.
posted on 21/12/16
Assuming Matip wrote to the C.F.A. informing them of his decision not to play for them before this call up he can't be punished.
posted on 21/12/16
This article from August would suggest that the Cameroon manager knew Matip wouldn't be playing and as such I don't think there is anything that can be done.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-defender-matips-self-imposed-11820074
Surely if a player doesn't want to play for his Country then it is his right to do so.
posted on 21/12/16
Hmm, according to FIFA rules,
Rule 3.1
"As a general rule, every player registered with a club is obliged to respond affirmatively when called up by the association he is eligible to represent on the basis of his nationality to play for one of its representative teams."
He could also be banned from playing for 5 extra days.
Rule 5
"A player who has been called up by his association for one of its representative teams is, unless otherwise agreed by the relevant association, not entitled to play for the club with which he is registered during the period for which he has been released or should have been released pursuant to the provisions of this annexe. This restriction on playing for the club shall, moreover, be prolonged by five days in the event that the player, for whatsoever reason, did not wish to or was unable to comply with the call-up."
http://metro.co.uk/2016/12/21/cameroon-can-ask-fifa-to-impose-liverpool-playing-ban-for-joel-matip-beyond-afcon-duration-6337059/
However. Since no action has been taken previously then a precedent has been set and Liverpool could argue that case.
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