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I hated my degree and left university at the end of my first year. Self employed personal trainer now. Easy job nice life.
Go for a job that suits your personality and where your personality fits the job.
After that recognise the needs of the business and work accordingly. Any decent employer will recognise that and you will do well.
Can't see how uni is worthwhile considering the cost of it nowadays. Personally I feel higher education is oversupplied, and lots of people are being mis-sold the value of going to uni. One third of graduates regret going to uni, because of the costs and they end up in jobs that they could've got without a degree.
I just came out of uni with a very low 3rd.
However, the class of my degree does not reflect my own abilities and I was able to reflect that in interviews, therefore, I managed to get a position at an insurance company earning above the national average.
Just remember your degree is a piece of paper and you are capable of a lot more than whatever that piece of paper says.
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University degree isn't as key as it once was
Job experience is what's going to harm you more.
If you can select a good career path you can achieve it without a degree. You just need to find the right path of how to use it
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comment by BARVIS (U21244)
posted 1 minute ago
Can't see how uni is worthwhile considering the cost of it nowadays. Personally I feel higher education is oversupplied, and lots of people are being mis-sold the value of going to uni. One third of graduates regret going to uni, because of the costs and they end up in jobs that they could've got without a degree.
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I definitely regret it- I'm halfway through second year and so far I've basically just accumulated a lot of debt and realised that I'm never going to do a job to do with the degree I'm doing. I'm pretty much just continuing because I don't know what I'd do otherwise
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs;
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals;
from Desiderata - Max Ehrmann
comment by dat guy welback (U10469)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BARVIS (U21244)
posted 1 minute ago
Can't see how uni is worthwhile considering the cost of it nowadays. Personally I feel higher education is oversupplied, and lots of people are being mis-sold the value of going to uni. One third of graduates regret going to uni, because of the costs and they end up in jobs that they could've got without a degree.
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I definitely regret it- I'm halfway through second year and so far I've basically just accumulated a lot of debt and realised that I'm never going to do a job to do with the degree I'm doing. I'm pretty much just continuing because I don't know what I'd do otherwise
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How about taking time to work out what kind of job you want, and just go for it.
Most small business owners will tell you they'd rather hire somebody with experience over a degree, if given the choice.
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I don't have a degree as I spent most of my childhood being a bit unhinged, I left school with a grade c in history.
Currently I'm a sales manager for a large multinational, I've also a few few properties I rent out. Got mates who went to Uni, studied art, media etc. They're all working in care homes
My degree opened up doors for me with certain jobs as even getting an interview required a degree or equivalent
What I do now has nothing to do with a degree, as I work for myself. But it was good to have the choice
Moneywise I could have earnt more, in the early days, if I had done building/plumbing related jobs as I had that skill set. But, and no disrespect to plumbers, I didn't fancy that life
That said if I needed to I would sweep floors for a living and that attitude is more important in life than a piece of paper
I was crap in academia but doing pretty well for myself.in finance at a young age
Scraped a 2:1 by 0.3%
If i was you if after uni you struggle to get a job due to lack of experience, it might be good to explore the possibility of doing an internship somewhere.
You woulnt earn anything and therefore you probably have to earn money from a part time job like a bar job. however that will give you experience and then make it easier to get a paid job after (thats if you dont impress the company offering an internship enough to keep you).
However you would probably have to live with a family member rent free.
Otherwise you will need to look hard for a job but there is always something out there for everyone. Its a lie that you cant get a job. one always does eventually come up but its whether you choose to take a job you dont necessarily want to do.
Sometimes you got to take a job you dont want to do before finding the right one. Thats what some unemployed people dont understand
As most people said you can succeed without a degree, in fact degrees can actually hinder a lot of people. Although I enjoyed uni, I've spent the last 5 years re-educating myself from stuff I've learnt in institutionalised learning.
If I were you, I would take up a commission based sales job, you can even do it while you're at uni.
Whether you want to go into sales is irrelevant but you will learn great skills that will help you with whatever job you end up doing, mainly how to talk to people and how to deal with rejection.
It will make a difference to have a degree on your CV than not!!! It can be a deciding factor sometimes!
comment by If anyone can, Emre Can... Britain just faile... (U3979)
posted 50 seconds ago
I was crap in academia but doing pretty well for myself.in finance at a young age
Scraped a 2:1 by 0.3%
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my brother got a 2:1 by 0.25%
so...
Also quality of life is an issue. At my best job I was doing 37 hours a week, 4 week paid holiday, no weekends and getting paid over £30k ( that's a few years back when a nurse was on 12k)
My electrician mate could and did earn more than me but he put in serious hours, which lead to failed marriage etc
OP which university do you go to?
It seems like it's fairly common to be fine without a degree then. Everyone says they're crucial these days though since they're so common so not having one puts you at an instant disadvantage.
As a lot you have said experience is probably more important but the issue is getting experience without having any credentials
comment by Obers (U3904)
posted 1 minute ago
OP which university do you go to?
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feels a bit weird giving that kind of information to strangers on the internet but I go to bristol
I probably should have explained my reasoning for the question before I asked that
I am actually in the exact same situation as you. I am in the second year studying an economics degree and have just decided to leave. At my university if you only stay for one term you only pay 25% of the yearly fees so essentially I am riddled myself in £11,000 worth of debt BUT I have the option of possibly starting at an institution on my course at a different uni in the second year when I feel ready
Just something to think about. I'm not sure how Bristol's policy works though
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posted on 8/1/17
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posted on 8/1/17
I hated my degree and left university at the end of my first year. Self employed personal trainer now. Easy job nice life.
posted on 8/1/17
Go for a job that suits your personality and where your personality fits the job.
After that recognise the needs of the business and work accordingly. Any decent employer will recognise that and you will do well.
posted on 8/1/17
Can't see how uni is worthwhile considering the cost of it nowadays. Personally I feel higher education is oversupplied, and lots of people are being mis-sold the value of going to uni. One third of graduates regret going to uni, because of the costs and they end up in jobs that they could've got without a degree.
posted on 8/1/17
I just came out of uni with a very low 3rd.
However, the class of my degree does not reflect my own abilities and I was able to reflect that in interviews, therefore, I managed to get a position at an insurance company earning above the national average.
Just remember your degree is a piece of paper and you are capable of a lot more than whatever that piece of paper says.
posted on 8/1/17
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posted on 8/1/17
University degree isn't as key as it once was
Job experience is what's going to harm you more.
If you can select a good career path you can achieve it without a degree. You just need to find the right path of how to use it
posted on 8/1/17
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posted on 8/1/17
comment by BARVIS (U21244)
posted 1 minute ago
Can't see how uni is worthwhile considering the cost of it nowadays. Personally I feel higher education is oversupplied, and lots of people are being mis-sold the value of going to uni. One third of graduates regret going to uni, because of the costs and they end up in jobs that they could've got without a degree.
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I definitely regret it- I'm halfway through second year and so far I've basically just accumulated a lot of debt and realised that I'm never going to do a job to do with the degree I'm doing. I'm pretty much just continuing because I don't know what I'd do otherwise
posted on 8/1/17
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs;
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals;
from Desiderata - Max Ehrmann
posted on 8/1/17
comment by dat guy welback (U10469)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BARVIS (U21244)
posted 1 minute ago
Can't see how uni is worthwhile considering the cost of it nowadays. Personally I feel higher education is oversupplied, and lots of people are being mis-sold the value of going to uni. One third of graduates regret going to uni, because of the costs and they end up in jobs that they could've got without a degree.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I definitely regret it- I'm halfway through second year and so far I've basically just accumulated a lot of debt and realised that I'm never going to do a job to do with the degree I'm doing. I'm pretty much just continuing because I don't know what I'd do otherwise
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How about taking time to work out what kind of job you want, and just go for it.
posted on 8/1/17
Most small business owners will tell you they'd rather hire somebody with experience over a degree, if given the choice.
posted on 8/1/17
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posted on 8/1/17
I don't have a degree as I spent most of my childhood being a bit unhinged, I left school with a grade c in history.
Currently I'm a sales manager for a large multinational, I've also a few few properties I rent out. Got mates who went to Uni, studied art, media etc. They're all working in care homes
posted on 8/1/17
My degree opened up doors for me with certain jobs as even getting an interview required a degree or equivalent
What I do now has nothing to do with a degree, as I work for myself. But it was good to have the choice
Moneywise I could have earnt more, in the early days, if I had done building/plumbing related jobs as I had that skill set. But, and no disrespect to plumbers, I didn't fancy that life
That said if I needed to I would sweep floors for a living and that attitude is more important in life than a piece of paper
posted on 8/1/17
I was crap in academia but doing pretty well for myself.in finance at a young age
Scraped a 2:1 by 0.3%
posted on 8/1/17
If i was you if after uni you struggle to get a job due to lack of experience, it might be good to explore the possibility of doing an internship somewhere.
You woulnt earn anything and therefore you probably have to earn money from a part time job like a bar job. however that will give you experience and then make it easier to get a paid job after (thats if you dont impress the company offering an internship enough to keep you).
However you would probably have to live with a family member rent free.
Otherwise you will need to look hard for a job but there is always something out there for everyone. Its a lie that you cant get a job. one always does eventually come up but its whether you choose to take a job you dont necessarily want to do.
Sometimes you got to take a job you dont want to do before finding the right one. Thats what some unemployed people dont understand
posted on 8/1/17
As most people said you can succeed without a degree, in fact degrees can actually hinder a lot of people. Although I enjoyed uni, I've spent the last 5 years re-educating myself from stuff I've learnt in institutionalised learning.
If I were you, I would take up a commission based sales job, you can even do it while you're at uni.
Whether you want to go into sales is irrelevant but you will learn great skills that will help you with whatever job you end up doing, mainly how to talk to people and how to deal with rejection.
posted on 8/1/17
It will make a difference to have a degree on your CV than not!!! It can be a deciding factor sometimes!
posted on 8/1/17
comment by If anyone can, Emre Can... Britain just faile... (U3979)
posted 50 seconds ago
I was crap in academia but doing pretty well for myself.in finance at a young age
Scraped a 2:1 by 0.3%
----------------------------------------------------------------------
my brother got a 2:1 by 0.25%
so...
posted on 8/1/17
Also quality of life is an issue. At my best job I was doing 37 hours a week, 4 week paid holiday, no weekends and getting paid over £30k ( that's a few years back when a nurse was on 12k)
My electrician mate could and did earn more than me but he put in serious hours, which lead to failed marriage etc
posted on 8/1/17
OP which university do you go to?
posted on 8/1/17
It seems like it's fairly common to be fine without a degree then. Everyone says they're crucial these days though since they're so common so not having one puts you at an instant disadvantage.
As a lot you have said experience is probably more important but the issue is getting experience without having any credentials
posted on 8/1/17
comment by Obers (U3904)
posted 1 minute ago
OP which university do you go to?
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feels a bit weird giving that kind of information to strangers on the internet but I go to bristol
posted on 8/1/17
I probably should have explained my reasoning for the question before I asked that
I am actually in the exact same situation as you. I am in the second year studying an economics degree and have just decided to leave. At my university if you only stay for one term you only pay 25% of the yearly fees so essentially I am riddled myself in £11,000 worth of debt BUT I have the option of possibly starting at an institution on my course at a different uni in the second year when I feel ready
Just something to think about. I'm not sure how Bristol's policy works though
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