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posted on 16/1/17

I believe Bill Gates is a very generous man. Not sure about the others, but why would Yanks pay personal tax here anyway?

posted on 16/1/17

So, we can increase our international aid. 👍👏👏

posted on 16/1/17

I suspect sme of those actually pay little if no tax at all.
They can afford the smartest tax lawyers around.
Somebody tell me who those people are , I only know three of them.

posted on 16/1/17

This is a complete joke. The rich must pay more taxes and not finding holes to avoid them.

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 16/1/17

They should pay more tax, the reason they don't is because our capitalist governments set up the tax laws.
I don't blame these people, they're only playing the game that our leaders set the rules to.

posted on 16/1/17

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 16 minutes ago
They should pay more tax, the reason they don't is because our capitalist governments set up the tax laws.
I don't blame these people, they're only playing the game that our leaders set the rules to.

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yeah agree....but the thing is politicans are corrupt and depending on the economy. Every 4 years there is an election....there is the problem.

comment by BARVIS (U21244)

posted on 16/1/17

Read in the times yesterday that the former glaxo smith klein ceo is getting a pension of £600k a year - that's truly gangster capitalism. Meanwhile a few years back white dee was villified for claiming her modest weekly benefit entitlement, otherwise she would've had nothing to live on, and everyone was looking down at her, despite the fact she was a very emphatic and caring person in her community.

But I guess we're wired to think someone in a fancy suit sitting in a boardroom with a good education is somehow a better person in society.

posted on 16/1/17

comment by BARVIS (U21244)
posted 5 minutes ago
Read in the times yesterday that the former glaxo smith klein ceo is getting a pension of £600k a year - that's truly gangster capitalism. Meanwhile a few years back white dee was villified for claiming her modest weekly benefit entitlement, otherwise she would've had nothing to live on, and everyone was looking down at her, despite the fact she was a very emphatic and caring person in her community.

But I guess we're wired to think someone in a fancy suit sitting in a boardroom with a good education is somehow a better person in society.
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erm, you can't see the difference between a guy claiming a pension from the company he used to work for and someone on benefits?

in answer to the original question, even buffett thinks he should pay more tax, his rate is artificially low because of the dubious differential tax treatment of carried interest - something trump may well overturn fyi. in the uk carried interest is treated differently to normal capital gains, and is still taxed at 28% (vs 20%) vs the top rate of income tax of 45%.

that should certainly be changed over here.

raise the rates too much and you just get what the co-founder of facebook did, ie you leave the country and head for somewhere with lower taxes.

what i do find odd in the UK is that the higher rate of tax kicks in quite early - ask any londoner especially whether they feel rich on £42k a year - so that the guy on £40k a year has a tax rate just 5pp lower than the guy on £40m a year.

posted on 16/1/17

All countries should have the same tax rate to corporations. 👍

comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 16/1/17

The fan of a club that's swindled millions out of the tax payers purse talking about rich people paying tax.

How thick are you maf

posted on 16/1/17

I just leave out your comment,so everyone will read it and think what kind of a village idiot you really are.

comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 16/1/17

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posted on 16/1/17

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comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 16/1/17

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/its-scandal-west-ham-taxpayer-7773083

Truth hurts

comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 16/1/17

Keep deleting it I will keep posting it

The tax payer ripped off by West Ham

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/its-scandal-west-ham-taxpayer-7773083

posted on 16/1/17

There should be some sort of massive purge on anyone that has more than £1bn in cash. Take everything above this. Who needs that much to live on?

comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 16/1/17

How about targeting the rothchilds

posted on 16/1/17

Andy Carroll must be worth billions now that he's world class.

comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 16/1/17

I'm amazed he didn't injure himself

posted on 16/1/17

Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have given away $billions over the last 10 years.

They have set up Charitable Foundations across the World.

To date Bill Gates has given over $30billion to the Melinda Gates Foundation.

Look at this site: http://uk.businessinsider.com/billionaires-giving-away-their-money-2015-10/#paul-allen-who-has-given-away-2-billion-so-far-funds-invaluable-scientific-research-through-the-allen-institute-for-b


Also: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/bill-gates-warren-buffett-and-mark-zuckerberg-top-the-list-of-the-world-s-20-most-generous-people-a6692541.html


Lots of very rich people give vast sums to charity because they want to make a difference.

Easy to just castigate & generalise

posted on 16/1/17

What about WHU paying £200m tax for the OS, bet you would not like that muffinboy!

comment by BARVIS (U21244)

posted on 16/1/17

comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 12 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by BARVIS (U21244)
posted 5 minutes ago
Read in the times yesterday that the former glaxo smith klein ceo is getting a pension of £600k a year - that's truly gangster capitalism. Meanwhile a few years back white dee was villified for claiming her modest weekly benefit entitlement, otherwise she would've had nothing to live on, and everyone was looking down at her, despite the fact she was a very emphatic and caring person in her community.

But I guess we're wired to think someone in a fancy suit sitting in a boardroom with a good education is somehow a better person in society.
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erm, you can't see the difference between a guy claiming a pension from the company he used to work for and someone on benefits?

in answer to the original question, even buffett thinks he should pay more tax, his rate is artificially low because of the dubious differential tax treatment of carried interest - something trump may well overturn fyi. in the uk carried interest is treated differently to normal capital gains, and is still taxed at 28% (vs 20%) vs the top rate of income tax of 45%.

that should certainly be changed over here.

raise the rates too much and you just get what the co-founder of facebook did, ie you leave the country and head for somewhere with lower taxes.

what i do find odd in the UK is that the higher rate of tax kicks in quite early - ask any londoner especially whether they feel rich on £42k a year - so that the guy on £40k a year has a tax rate just 5pp lower than the guy on £40m a year.
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I can't see why people rant about a system that provides a modest weekly benefit to those from typically disadvantaged backgrounds who are on hard times as white dee was in that ghetto. Yet don't think anything of the rewards at boardroom level which are obscene.

Think I read a Londoner needs to earn 60k a year just to be able to save for a deposit to buy a home.

My personal view is that homes are too fundamental to any society to be left to the mercy of the free market.

comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 17/1/17

comment by GeniusGreaves Optimist Supreme (U1302)
posted 11 hours, 52 minutes ago
What about WHU paying £200m tax for the OS, bet you would not like that muffinboy!
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He's had a mare here, no more so than any other thread he pops into.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/its-scandal-west-ham-taxpayer-7773083

Pay the tax man you dope

posted on 17/1/17

posted 14 hours, 3 minutes ago
What about WHU paying £200m tax for the OS, bet you would not like that muffinboy!


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West Ham are paying more than £200mil to the taxpayer in our tenure for a white elephant.

comment by MBL. (U6305)

posted on 17/1/17

Just 15 million of the over three hundred million it took to convert it to a football stadium so that means the tsk payer is down 285 million

How's that for doping

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