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Yeah I think Frampton should win again. They say in rematches you should always favour the the boxer type as they are more likely to adapt more again. I think Framptons footwork in the first fight was worldclass, kept Santa Cruz exactly where he wanted him that stopped Cruz being able to get off with his combinations. However Cruz's preparations where effected in the build up due to the health of his dad and it was his bother who mainly trained him and came up with the gameplan by Cruz's admission.
The price of 20/1 was too good to ignore tho and given that the first fight was reasonably close, and I think Cruz could have done more and he should have stronger support that may sway the judges slightly it was defo worth a punt.
I actually think Frampton might drop him a few times maybe even stop him as Cruz will know he will need to commit a lot more due to Framptons jab, footwork and timing as was evident in the first fight
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if it is close they will give it to leo
Both duckers, both papers champs
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 10 hours, 52 minutes ago
Both duckers, both papers champs
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Both maybe ducked Rigo yeah but they won their belts legit, and neither has ducked or are paper champs at featherweight.
Must troll better D4
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 10 hours, 52 minutes ago
Both duckers, both papers champs
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Both maybe ducked Rigo yeah but they won their belts legit, and neither has ducked or are paper champs at featherweight.
Must troll better D4
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They did both duck Rigo, they ran from the man. They also wanted nothing to do with Lomachenko.
Frampton waits for Loma to move up then says he will fight him at 130
A real champ is willing to take on the best and fight them. Frampton has never been that.
If Frampton does fight Loma this year, then I will take back what I said, but Frampton has shown he doesn't like taken on the technical fighters.
Likes to only fight fighters where his style matches up well.
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 10 hours, 52 minutes ago
Both duckers, both papers champs
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Both maybe ducked Rigo yeah but they won their belts legit, and neither has ducked or are paper champs at featherweight.
Must troll better D4
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They did both duck Rigo, they ran from the man. They also wanted nothing to do with Lomachenko.
Frampton waits for Loma to move up then says he will fight him at 130
A real champ is willing to take on the best and fight them. Frampton has never been that.
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Outta curiosity are you female? (you just bich and moan like a few I have met over the years!!)
This is a great fight as a spectacle first one was great this will be the same to deny they are not top level is just dumb....To have two top level fighters fighting each other who have already proven they can produce a great fight and for it not ot be on PPV for us is great ..... do you not agree??
Not a great fight. Santa Cruz only fights one way, and so does Frampton. You know exactly what you are going to get.
Neither of them are top class, as they know they aren't good enough to mix it with the best.
If you are top class you don't fear anyone.
The rematch with Quigg would be better than this.
I didnt ask if Cruz fights any particular way I asked if this is a good fight as a spectacle which it clearly was and will no doubt be again. To suggest the Quigg fight was anywhere near as good as the first fight is just more trolling from you ... see ya !!
comment by MaccaRuss (U18932)
posted 1 second ago
Is it on tv?
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Never mind I was looking at Friday's TV listingrs 🙄
Yeah , Sky got it ... main fight will be 4am ish
Is de la Hoya a kindred spirit of George Michael?
Only time will tell.
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He'll beat Santa Cruz I think but it will be a 50/50 fight. Big fan of Frampton and I don't think he can be judged for avoiding Rigo, no-one in the division wants to fight him and similar to Ward I think he has been cast as a boring fighter and therefore not marketable in terms of PPV numbers. Boxing, like most sports is a business first and foremost whether we like it or not.
The thing with Rigo is he aint from a popular viewing country, doesnt speak english and is quite reserved as a personality. He is not marketable as has been said, and I also dont think Rigo and Framptons styles matchup to well to be a very entertaining fight. It would be a very cagey affair fought at range with each others footwork kinda nulifying each others.
That being said I would still be intrigued I would prob have Rigo down as favourite however he defo aint the force he was 3 or so years ago i think so it aint written in stone thats for sure.
If Rigo were to fight either fighter, it won't be a cagey affair at all.
Rigo's powers might be on the wane but if they fought today i see Rigo schooling them; i mean very easily.
Frampton would smash Rigo to bits, Rigo has got to be the most over rated boxer in the world, would of said it was Ortiz who everyone was raving about who is absolute $hit, but now Rigo has taken that mantle as most have realized Ortiz is awful
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Ring walk expected to be just after 4
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Can't decide whether to stay up, annoying as I have a nice few stims arriving soon! Stay up and enjoy the fight then be on a completely different shift pattern to the Mrs on Sunday?.....
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Frampton v Santa Cruz
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posted on 25/1/17
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posted on 25/1/17
Yeah I think Frampton should win again. They say in rematches you should always favour the the boxer type as they are more likely to adapt more again. I think Framptons footwork in the first fight was worldclass, kept Santa Cruz exactly where he wanted him that stopped Cruz being able to get off with his combinations. However Cruz's preparations where effected in the build up due to the health of his dad and it was his bother who mainly trained him and came up with the gameplan by Cruz's admission.
The price of 20/1 was too good to ignore tho and given that the first fight was reasonably close, and I think Cruz could have done more and he should have stronger support that may sway the judges slightly it was defo worth a punt.
I actually think Frampton might drop him a few times maybe even stop him as Cruz will know he will need to commit a lot more due to Framptons jab, footwork and timing as was evident in the first fight
posted on 25/1/17
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posted on 25/1/17
if it is close they will give it to leo
posted on 25/1/17
Both duckers, both papers champs
posted on 26/1/17
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 10 hours, 52 minutes ago
Both duckers, both papers champs
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Both maybe ducked Rigo yeah but they won their belts legit, and neither has ducked or are paper champs at featherweight.
Must troll better D4
posted on 26/1/17
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 10 hours, 52 minutes ago
Both duckers, both papers champs
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Both maybe ducked Rigo yeah but they won their belts legit, and neither has ducked or are paper champs at featherweight.
Must troll better D4
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They did both duck Rigo, they ran from the man. They also wanted nothing to do with Lomachenko.
Frampton waits for Loma to move up then says he will fight him at 130
A real champ is willing to take on the best and fight them. Frampton has never been that.
posted on 26/1/17
If Frampton does fight Loma this year, then I will take back what I said, but Frampton has shown he doesn't like taken on the technical fighters.
Likes to only fight fighters where his style matches up well.
posted on 26/1/17
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 1 hour, 46 minutes ago
comment by D4thincarnation (U2520)
posted 10 hours, 52 minutes ago
Both duckers, both papers champs
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Both maybe ducked Rigo yeah but they won their belts legit, and neither has ducked or are paper champs at featherweight.
Must troll better D4
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They did both duck Rigo, they ran from the man. They also wanted nothing to do with Lomachenko.
Frampton waits for Loma to move up then says he will fight him at 130
A real champ is willing to take on the best and fight them. Frampton has never been that.
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Outta curiosity are you female? (you just bich and moan like a few I have met over the years!!)
This is a great fight as a spectacle first one was great this will be the same to deny they are not top level is just dumb....To have two top level fighters fighting each other who have already proven they can produce a great fight and for it not ot be on PPV for us is great ..... do you not agree??
posted on 26/1/17
Not a great fight. Santa Cruz only fights one way, and so does Frampton. You know exactly what you are going to get.
Neither of them are top class, as they know they aren't good enough to mix it with the best.
If you are top class you don't fear anyone.
The rematch with Quigg would be better than this.
posted on 26/1/17
I didnt ask if Cruz fights any particular way I asked if this is a good fight as a spectacle which it clearly was and will no doubt be again. To suggest the Quigg fight was anywhere near as good as the first fight is just more trolling from you ... see ya !!
posted on 26/1/17
Is it on tv?
posted on 26/1/17
comment by MaccaRuss (U18932)
posted 1 second ago
Is it on tv?
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Never mind I was looking at Friday's TV listingrs 🙄
posted on 26/1/17
Yeah , Sky got it ... main fight will be 4am ish
posted on 26/1/17
Is de la Hoya a kindred spirit of George Michael?
Only time will tell.
posted on 27/1/17
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posted on 27/1/17
He'll beat Santa Cruz I think but it will be a 50/50 fight. Big fan of Frampton and I don't think he can be judged for avoiding Rigo, no-one in the division wants to fight him and similar to Ward I think he has been cast as a boring fighter and therefore not marketable in terms of PPV numbers. Boxing, like most sports is a business first and foremost whether we like it or not.
posted on 27/1/17
The thing with Rigo is he aint from a popular viewing country, doesnt speak english and is quite reserved as a personality. He is not marketable as has been said, and I also dont think Rigo and Framptons styles matchup to well to be a very entertaining fight. It would be a very cagey affair fought at range with each others footwork kinda nulifying each others.
That being said I would still be intrigued I would prob have Rigo down as favourite however he defo aint the force he was 3 or so years ago i think so it aint written in stone thats for sure.
posted on 27/1/17
If Rigo were to fight either fighter, it won't be a cagey affair at all.
Rigo's powers might be on the wane but if they fought today i see Rigo schooling them; i mean very easily.
posted on 28/1/17
Frampton would smash Rigo to bits, Rigo has got to be the most over rated boxer in the world, would of said it was Ortiz who everyone was raving about who is absolute $hit, but now Rigo has taken that mantle as most have realized Ortiz is awful
posted on 28/1/17
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posted on 28/1/17
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posted on 28/1/17
Ring walk expected to be just after 4
posted on 28/1/17
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posted on 28/1/17
Can't decide whether to stay up, annoying as I have a nice few stims arriving soon! Stay up and enjoy the fight then be on a completely different shift pattern to the Mrs on Sunday?.....
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