comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 6 minutes ago
Are you completely feckin stupid?
Ever heard of a programm called Match of the Day than ran for years with two people called Hansen and Lawrenson?
Ever heard of Phil Thompson, Graham Souness Steve Mcmanaman, Michael Owen, David James, Gary Mcallister?
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This thread is about Klopp and Pep and their respective treatment/relationships with the media.
Given Hansen retired before they came to the league I'm not sure he's relevant. Thompson is on rarely these days (at least I don't see him) and the others I can only assume are on BT sport because I don't see them on tv and don't have BT.
Lawrenson you have a point on though. Forgot him.
You're still talking the odd bit of opinion based punditry. It's not the people that set the media agenda. That's the editors that allow headlines. Or block headlines as the case may be. The likes of Lawrenson (or any of the others) state the odd opinion, they don't decide on back pages or headline news.
SWTN has never heard of Pat Nevin, Andy Townsend, Jason Cundy, Ruud Gullit, Dennis Wise, Gianluca Vialli, Marcel Desailly, Frank Lampard amongst others.
He has only heard of pundits who have played for Liverpool.
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 9 seconds ago
SWTN has never heard of Pat Nevin, Andy Townsend, Jason Cundy, Ruud Gullit, Dennis Wise, Gianluca Vialli, Marcel Desailly, Frank Lampard amongst others.
He has only heard of pundits who have played for Liverpool.
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Chris Sutton as well
Jason Cundy is up there with the worst of them. An absolute cretin of a man.
The answer is the number of Liverpool connected pundits. And because the press pack liked Klopp. Or at least did before he got moody.
But also because Klopp had a more impressive run than Pep has had.
And because Pep came to the league being touted by some as the best manager in the world and many want him to fail.
And because he doesn't speak English.
And frankly, lots of people enjoy the world's richest club, or one them, struggling to match expectations.
SWTN must be a 2004 Chelsea convert if he hasn't heard of any of those.
It's no great surprise to me that Guardiola is struggling.
Then there's United with Rio Ferdinand, Roy Keane, Giggs, Gary Neville, Phil Neville, Scholes of the top of my head
The Nevilles are polar opposites in their punditry. Gary is good at it and he's insightful. But I think I'd get more enjoyment out of watching a snail complete a marathon than watching Phil.
The Nevilles are probably ABU's now as well
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 3 minutes ago
The Nevilles are probably ABU's now as well
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Actually seeing how United fans react when Scholes criticises the team it's probably best they don't have too many pundits on telly.
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 7 minutes ago
The Nevilles are polar opposites in their punditry. Gary is good at it and he's insightful. But I think I'd get more enjoyment out of watching a snail complete a marathon than watching Phil.
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Gary talks a good game but it's all fart no poo as proved by his dismal managerial spell.
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 3 minutes ago
The Nevilles are probably ABU's now as well
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Actually seeing how United fans react when Scholes criticises the team it's probably best they don't have too many pundits on telly.
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True. I remember how much they creamed themselves when Zidane praised Scholes but turned against him when he praised Gerrard.
Properly paranoid them lot, spent too much time on the pipe.
comment by Georgi Neo Wijnaldum (U9135)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 7 minutes ago
The Nevilles are polar opposites in their punditry. Gary is good at it and he's insightful. But I think I'd get more enjoyment out of watching a snail complete a marathon than watching Phil.
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Gary talks a good game but it's all fart no poo as proved by his dismal managerial spell.
...
Which pundits have been successful managers?
All this "look at the LFC squad" excuse doesn't wash..Klopp is culpable in this he has bought players and spent a chunk if money....at the same time.he has failed to address the obvious issues....2 CBs bought, 1 GK, but no DM or LB and a poor choice of proper strikers. The ones he has got in are pretty sheeeite. The squad lacks real balance.
When you look at the team.put out today, it shows massive misunderstanding of the club, it's history, football outside of the EPL. It looked like a banana skin given your form and instead of winning and taking that confidence forward into the next game, he opens the door to a bad result and the 2017 slump hits a new low.....it's very basic bad management.
He might be making a point to.the owners, that £££££ is needed but go back a few months, no one was moaning then.
Can be summarised in a juvenile 'Stones £50m ' kinda way.
ti answer the op, demographic of the readership mostly, coupled with misplaced arrogance of some of the media.
I put it down to blinkers. You see what you want to see. Klopp has been criticised throughout this poor run of form but you prefer to believe they're all against Guardiola instead. United fans have done this for years, maybe it's a Manchester thing.
A couple more results like yesterday and Klopp will be the next Brenda laaaaaaargh
Next year maaaate were gonna winda league
Watch the Sunday supplement this morning and let's see how what is an absolute shocker of a January is reported.
Will their be language like "found out, lost it, disrespected, flop"
I'm going to predict not.
The media like their manager more than ours
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 28 minutes ago
The media like their manager more than ours
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The media don't report things evenly
LQ
"Will their be language like "found out, lost it, disrespected, flop"
Have the media used the above language when talking about Pep?
Yes, they have on several occasions and I have heard pundits on the radio saying it too.
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes, they have on several occasions and I have heard pundits on the radio saying it too.
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If you could be bothered to read the thing you're complaining about like on the BBC site on the first page you'll see a writer, who happens to be an Everton fan criticising Klopp as well as several pundits, throughout. Although it makes it more fun to say 'they're all against our manager and Klopp never gets the blame, wah wah'. Some people need to grow up.
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posted on 28/1/17
comment by SWTN Biggish (U7916)
posted 6 minutes ago
Are you completely feckin stupid?
Ever heard of a programm called Match of the Day than ran for years with two people called Hansen and Lawrenson?
Ever heard of Phil Thompson, Graham Souness Steve Mcmanaman, Michael Owen, David James, Gary Mcallister?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This thread is about Klopp and Pep and their respective treatment/relationships with the media.
Given Hansen retired before they came to the league I'm not sure he's relevant. Thompson is on rarely these days (at least I don't see him) and the others I can only assume are on BT sport because I don't see them on tv and don't have BT.
Lawrenson you have a point on though. Forgot him.
You're still talking the odd bit of opinion based punditry. It's not the people that set the media agenda. That's the editors that allow headlines. Or block headlines as the case may be. The likes of Lawrenson (or any of the others) state the odd opinion, they don't decide on back pages or headline news.
posted on 28/1/17
SWTN has never heard of Pat Nevin, Andy Townsend, Jason Cundy, Ruud Gullit, Dennis Wise, Gianluca Vialli, Marcel Desailly, Frank Lampard amongst others.
He has only heard of pundits who have played for Liverpool.
posted on 28/1/17
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 9 seconds ago
SWTN has never heard of Pat Nevin, Andy Townsend, Jason Cundy, Ruud Gullit, Dennis Wise, Gianluca Vialli, Marcel Desailly, Frank Lampard amongst others.
He has only heard of pundits who have played for Liverpool.
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Chris Sutton as well
posted on 28/1/17
Jason Cundy is up there with the worst of them. An absolute cretin of a man.
posted on 28/1/17
The answer is the number of Liverpool connected pundits. And because the press pack liked Klopp. Or at least did before he got moody.
But also because Klopp had a more impressive run than Pep has had.
And because Pep came to the league being touted by some as the best manager in the world and many want him to fail.
And because he doesn't speak English.
And frankly, lots of people enjoy the world's richest club, or one them, struggling to match expectations.
posted on 28/1/17
SWTN must be a 2004 Chelsea convert if he hasn't heard of any of those.
posted on 28/1/17
It's no great surprise to me that Guardiola is struggling.
posted on 28/1/17
Then there's United with Rio Ferdinand, Roy Keane, Giggs, Gary Neville, Phil Neville, Scholes of the top of my head
posted on 28/1/17
The Nevilles are polar opposites in their punditry. Gary is good at it and he's insightful. But I think I'd get more enjoyment out of watching a snail complete a marathon than watching Phil.
posted on 28/1/17
The Nevilles are probably ABU's now as well
posted on 28/1/17
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 3 minutes ago
The Nevilles are probably ABU's now as well
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Actually seeing how United fans react when Scholes criticises the team it's probably best they don't have too many pundits on telly.
posted on 28/1/17
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 7 minutes ago
The Nevilles are polar opposites in their punditry. Gary is good at it and he's insightful. But I think I'd get more enjoyment out of watching a snail complete a marathon than watching Phil.
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Gary talks a good game but it's all fart no poo as proved by his dismal managerial spell.
posted on 28/1/17
comment by Coutinho's Happy Feet (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by KnottyAshTaxDodger. (U8934)
posted 3 minutes ago
The Nevilles are probably ABU's now as well
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Actually seeing how United fans react when Scholes criticises the team it's probably best they don't have too many pundits on telly.
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True. I remember how much they creamed themselves when Zidane praised Scholes but turned against him when he praised Gerrard.
Properly paranoid them lot, spent too much time on the pipe.
posted on 28/1/17
comment by Georgi Neo Wijnaldum (U9135)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 7 minutes ago
The Nevilles are polar opposites in their punditry. Gary is good at it and he's insightful. But I think I'd get more enjoyment out of watching a snail complete a marathon than watching Phil.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gary talks a good game but it's all fart no poo as proved by his dismal managerial spell.
...
Which pundits have been successful managers?
posted on 28/1/17
All this "look at the LFC squad" excuse doesn't wash..Klopp is culpable in this he has bought players and spent a chunk if money....at the same time.he has failed to address the obvious issues....2 CBs bought, 1 GK, but no DM or LB and a poor choice of proper strikers. The ones he has got in are pretty sheeeite. The squad lacks real balance.
When you look at the team.put out today, it shows massive misunderstanding of the club, it's history, football outside of the EPL. It looked like a banana skin given your form and instead of winning and taking that confidence forward into the next game, he opens the door to a bad result and the 2017 slump hits a new low.....it's very basic bad management.
He might be making a point to.the owners, that £££££ is needed but go back a few months, no one was moaning then.
posted on 28/1/17
Can be summarised in a juvenile 'Stones £50m ' kinda way.
posted on 29/1/17
ti answer the op, demographic of the readership mostly, coupled with misplaced arrogance of some of the media.
posted on 29/1/17
I put it down to blinkers. You see what you want to see. Klopp has been criticised throughout this poor run of form but you prefer to believe they're all against Guardiola instead. United fans have done this for years, maybe it's a Manchester thing.
posted on 29/1/17
A couple more results like yesterday and Klopp will be the next Brenda laaaaaaargh
Next year maaaate were gonna winda league
posted on 29/1/17
Watch the Sunday supplement this morning and let's see how what is an absolute shocker of a January is reported.
Will their be language like "found out, lost it, disrespected, flop"
I'm going to predict not.
posted on 29/1/17
The media like their manager more than ours
posted on 29/1/17
comment by selbstgerechtein (U7048)
posted 28 minutes ago
The media like their manager more than ours
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The media don't report things evenly
posted on 29/1/17
LQ
"Will their be language like "found out, lost it, disrespected, flop"
Have the media used the above language when talking about Pep?
posted on 29/1/17
Yes, they have on several occasions and I have heard pundits on the radio saying it too.
posted on 29/1/17
comment by LQ (U6305)
posted 2 minutes ago
Yes, they have on several occasions and I have heard pundits on the radio saying it too.
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If you could be bothered to read the thing you're complaining about like on the BBC site on the first page you'll see a writer, who happens to be an Everton fan criticising Klopp as well as several pundits, throughout. Although it makes it more fun to say 'they're all against our manager and Klopp never gets the blame, wah wah'. Some people need to grow up.
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